Now that's a song that deserves to be blasted at 11. The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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I disagree. I love the album cover! It's bold, colourful and looks really strong. Brenda, Susan & Apollonia look hot. I love the glamour and style of it. | |
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I did not like the cover at all. Still don't
this could have been such a better cover. Maybe if those 'buildings?' behind them were there but a real city skyline
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The second picture | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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Is there anything in the songs that explain the cover? that backdrop?
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It is amazing how much the album changed over time. Early on, it was loaded with huge potential, but Prince started removing some of the tracks, and it messed up the flow of the original design. Blue Limo was recorded in mid-April to replace Take Me With U and Happy Birthday Mr. Christian was recorded at the beginning of August 84 to replace Manic Monday.
I love this album, and think most of it is very underrated. There are several really fun songs on it. Not a huge fan of the skits, but there are still several really fun songs that deserve to be heard. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Is there anything in the songs that explain the cover? that backdrop?
Prince's When Doves Cry. But I don't get it. What? | |
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(17) EXT. CLUB -- NIGHT
Dr. Everything'll Be Alright will make everything go wrong He's coming! Take me away!
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...Vanity snaps out of it. Jill is
Sudden APPLAUSE and CRIES. Vanity and
18A) INT. CLUB -- NEAR STAGE -- NIGHT
I - I've been watching U My jungle love, yeah
VANITY
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Prince & the Revolution @ the NVMCU 3.22.1985
w/ Brenda Bennett Susan Moonsie Apollonia w/Sheila E. Eddie M. Juan Escovedo Miko Weaver & Suzi Davis
March 22. 1985 Apollonia 6 1.Let's Go Crazy
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Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Sex Shooter
I need U 2 get me off CHORUS: I need U 2 pull my trigger, baby CHORUS Come on, kiss the gun Sex shooter Listen.. I'm a sex shooter Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun {x4} Come on, kiss the gun No girl's body can compete with mine Come on, kiss the gun Sex shooter All the nasty people sing it All the nasty people sing it! Fellas, take it home, uh Brenda? (Uh huh?) Susan? (Uh huh?) New York? (Uh huh?) New York? (Uh huh?)
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Following the 1999 tour, Prince had started recording songs, including "Promise To Be True," "Vibrator," and "Sex Shooter," for an intended second Vanity 6 album. There were also numerous songs left over from sessions for their first album to choose from, including "I Need A Man," "Jealous Girl," "Moral Majority," "Pizza," and "Too Much." Prince had also recorded "No Call U" (known as "U Call Me" amongst fans) and "Extra Lovable" with Vanity singing lead. However, after participating in acting and singing sessions in preparation for Purple Rain, Vanity suddenly quit and left Prince's camp. Although her romantic falling-out with Prince has often been attributed as the main reason for her sudden departure, more important was the fact that she was asking for more money than the producers were willing to pay her. She was fielding other offers, including a role in Martin Scorsese's planned The Last Temptation Of Christ, and she felt her role in Purple Rain was worth more than the producers seemed to think it was. "The movie was Prince's dream. He was bringing in everybody for very little money. You've got to pay people. You've got to be fair," said Vanity. "They wouldn't pay me enough money to go through with the crap I would have to go through. I don't do things like this free of charge. I didn't want to be stuck in the snow at 6 in the morning in some camper with no place to change clothes. Who needs that?"
Vanity 6 becomes Apollonia 6The film was too far along in development to be substantially re-written. The problem was finding a substitute to fill the void left by Vanity's departure. After auditioning some 700 women in New York and Los Angeles, a 22-year-old model named Patricia Kotero was chosen for the female lead role. (---) She got the part and Prince suggested the name Apollonia, after a character in The Godfather. And so, Apollonia 6 rose from the ashes of the defunct Vanity 6. "Sex Shooter" was the starting point of the Apollonia 6 album. Having previously cut the song with Vanity on lead vocals, Prince re-recorded the song with Apollonia in his home studio on a day off from filming Purple Rain. Work on the album continued after shooting in Minneapolis had been completed. Prince re-located to Los Angeles for recording sessions at Sunset Sound and to shoot some complimentary footage for the film. Some of the first songs Prince recorded for the album in late December 1983 and early 1984 included "The Glamorous Life," "In A Spanish Villa," "Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar," "Oliver's House," and a song called "Blue Love." He also revamped the Vanity 6 outtake "Moral Majority" and recorded "17 Days" for possible use by Apollonia 6, to be sung by Brenda, the group's smoker (hence the lyric, "All I've got is two cigarettes and this broken heart of mine"). Work on their album continued throughout January and February 1984 alongside sessions for The Time's Ice Cream Castle and other recordings. The first configuration of the album had the following track listing: "Take Me With U" / "Sex Shooter" / "Manic Monday" / "A Million Miles (I Love You)" / "Ooo She She Wa Wa" / "Some Kind Of Lover" / "In A Spanish Villa." By this time, in late February 1984, Prince had decided to withhold some of the songs he had initially intended for the group, instead planning them for an album with Sheila E. He also decided to keep "17 Days" for a single B-side ("When Doves Cry"). "The Glamorous Life" was written by Prince about Apollonia. "He used to make all these stupid jokes, 'You're the kind of chick who would wear a mink coat in the summertime.' To this day I don't have my own mink coat! When Sheila came into the scene, Prince took away the song from us and gave it to her. At that point it was like, 'Man, this is just not fair.' Since I was a newcomer, I kinda bit my tongue, but Susan and Brenda really let him have it." Prince's duet with Apollonia, "Take Me With U," was planned as the album's lead-off single, and with "Manic Monday" and "Sex Shooter" as two other strong pop tunes and potential hits, the album was shaping up to become one of Prince's most commercial, pop-oriented side projects thus far. A month later, however, Prince changed his mind and reclaimed "Take Me With U" to use it on his Purple Rain album instead. It was the last track added to Purple Rain, and "Computer Blue," which had already been shortened a number of times, had to be edited one last time to accommodate for the song. Towards the end of the Sunset Sound sessions, Prince recorded "Blue Limousine" for Apollonia 6 as a replacement for "Take Me With U." Back in Minneapolis after this nearly four-month long stay in Los Angeles, Prince cut "Happy Birthday, Mr. Christian" at the Eden Prairie (Flying Cloud Drive) warehouse he was using for rehearsals and recording sessions up until the Purple Rain tour. "Manic Monday" was still included on a Warner Bros. pre-release cassette tape of the Apollonia 6 album, but Prince pulled the song at last minute, replacing it with "Happy Birthday, Mr. Christian." He later gave "Manic Monday" to The Bangles, who scored a huge international hit with their own version of the song in 1986.
Lacking convictionAfter Sheila E.'s The Glamorous Life and The Time's Ice Cream Castle, Apollonia 6 became the third Starr Company production in 1984 when it was released on October 1st. Though Prince's name doesn't appear anywhere on the record, it was clearly another sample of his undercover work, as he wrote, played and produced most of it. The songs on the album are attributed to Sheila E., members of Apollonia 6, and The Revolution. In reality, Prince was responsible for all of the songs, but he gave Lisa Coleman a co-writing credit on "A Million Miles (I Love You)," while Brenda Bennett received a co-credit on "Some Kind Of Lover."
Apollonia 6 fade awayIn view of how many first-rate songs Prince decided not to use on the Apollonia 6 album, including "Take Me With U," "Manic Monday," "The Glamorous Life," and "17 Days," it is obvious that Prince lost interest in the project somewhere along the line, instead turning his attention to Sheila E. and his next side project, The Family. Vanity was clearly a crucial inspiring force behind Prince's concept of a raunchy, sexy girl trio. For Apollonia, it was much more a case of playing a role, and she made it quite clear that her career goals did not necessarily include a future as one part of Apollonia 6. She never committed herself to anything beyond the Purple Rain film and an album with Apollonia 6. Consequently, the project lacked conviction and it is fairly evident that Prince's heart was not in the project. There was talk of making videos for all the tracks on the album, and Apollonia claimed at the time, "Warners requested - no demanded - that we make a video for every song on the album." Apart from a video for "Sex Shooter," which was released as a single (also available in an extended version on maxi-single), nothing happened to the grandiose plans. With no second single, the project slowly faded away, perhaps not missed by too many.
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24) INT. REHEARSAL HALL -- DAY
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I remember in late 1984 when the album was released,I was shocked at the lack of promotion."Sex Shooter" made some noise and it had a video,but after that,it seems like Prince and Warners let the project fade away very quickly."Blue Limousine" had 'Top 10 hit' written all over it.I can't believe that Warners didn't aggressively promote that song! | |
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"Take Me With U" would have sounded really out of the place on the A6 album! I also don't think that "Manic Monday" was suitable for A6.Brenda has said that she doesn't even like the song ("it's too pop",she said).It's a good thing that Prince didn't release this configuration,which is flawed.
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OldFriends4Sale, you are as nuts as Prince. The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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Yeah, there are some great songs on the album it just has no cohesive flow, great music, but Apollonia was not in it. Not to sound repetitive, but if Vanity was the 2nd album it would have been hot. And she would have owned Manic Monday. Vanity would have put something on it that made it work. And it would have been another hit closely attributed to Prince's camp. | |
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God it just reminds me what fab women he has had in his life , lucky devil. | |
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Does anyone remember the Apollonia 6 workprint footage that leaked some years back? I haven't watched it in a long time but I remember the long form video featured quite a few songs from the album.
Was the name of the film "Happy Birthday Mr. Christian"? | |
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A Million Miles (I Love You) is the fourth track on Apollonia 6's first and only album Apollonia 6. It was written by Prince and Lisa Coleman, but credited to Apollonia 6 (words) and Lisa Coleman (music). Initial tracking took place on 20 January 1984 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (the day after Some Kind Of Lover and a week before Take Me With U). -PrinceVault Brenda Bennett - lead vocals Apollonia - backing vocals Susan Moonsie - backing vocals Prince - all instruments, except where noted (uncredited) Sheila E. - drums and percussion Lisa Coleman - keyboards Wendy Melvoin - guitar
how could i illustrate my love 4 u? i love u a million miles, i love u if u love me, would u eat a poison apple? how could i demonstrate the way u make me feel? i love u a million miles, i love u (somebody, somebody clap your hands) {x4} a million miles
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27) EXT. STORE WINDOW AND MALL SHOPS -- DOWNTOWN --
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yeah,it leaked awhile back.As I recall,it featured videos for "Happy Birthday,Mr.Christian","Sex Shooter" (different than the offical video that was released in 1984),"Blue Limousine" and "Ooh She She Wa Wa". | |
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I think those two songs ("Blue Limousine" and "Happy Birthday,Mr.Christian") are better than the songs they replaced.I just don't think that "Manic Monday" was suitable for this project and by giving it to the Bangles,it became a much bigger hit than it would have been for Apollonia 6.
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Now when I look back at all this, I just want to go......"god, the 80's" | |
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ICE CREAM CASTLES & BLUE LIMOUSINES By the time shooting for the movie resumed, Prince was done with his album, which would become the soundtrack to the film, and The Time had finished theirs, Ice Cream Castle, which included both of their musical contributions to the picture. Due to the delays caused by the personnel shift from Vanity to Apollonia and the increasing demands for Brenda, Susan and especially Apollonia to be on the movie set, work on the Apollonia 6 album proceeded on a catch-as-catch-can basis until the movie wrapped.
Purple Rain premiered June 25, 1984 with a gala opening night celebration at Grauman’s Chinese Theatre in Hollywood. Apollonia 6 was featured on stage in the film performing “Sex Shooter” which would become the first single from their upcoming album and Brenda had a speaking part.
Prince’s soundtrack album was released the same day and The Time’s album the following week. All three releases performed spectacularly. The movie became one of the biggest box office hits of the year reaching #11 in Variety and grossing almost $70,000,000.00 during its initial run. (Prince would take home an Oscar the following year when his score won the Academy Award for Best Original Song Score.) The soundtrack album went to #1 in Billboard on both the Top 200 Albums and R&B Albums charts, spawned four Top Ten singles and was eventually certified 13 times Platinum (13,000,000 copies). Ice Cream Castle became The Time’s best-selling album and produced three hit singles including “Jungle Love” and “The Bird” from the picture.
As the movie and the two albums raced up the charts over the course of the summer of 1984, work resumed on the Apollonia 6 album and it was completed in July. Released on October 1, the album went to #24 on the R&B Albums and #62 on the Top 200 Albums charts and was certified Platinum. “Sex Shooter,” the first single, was a major hit reaching #7 on both the Dance and R&B album charts and climbed to #85 on the Hot 100. Brenda once again made major contributions to the album. She composed “Some Kind Of Lover” and shares co-writing credits with the group on “Sex Shooter,” “Blue Limousine” with Sheila E and “A Million Miles (I Love You)” with Lisa Coleman. She is the lead vocalist on three of the album’s seven tracks: “Blue Limousine,” “A Million Miles” and “Some Kind Of Lover.”
Brenda was also involved in the recording of several other tracks during the period when the second Vanity 6 album morphed into the Apollonia 6 album. At least three of the outtakes have surfaced in various forms. The most famous is “Manic Monday” which was written by Prince and given to Apollonia 6 for their album. Prince played all the instruments, Apollonia sang the lead vocal, and Brenda sang an answer vocal. The track did not make the final cut of the album. Two years later, Prince gave the track to The Bangles. They simply removed Apollonia’s vocal and replaced it with Susanna’s, keeping Prince’s entire backing track and Brenda’s vocal. The record went to #2 in 1986 – it is Brenda who sings the famous “oh-oo-woh” vocal hook on the chorus. Another track was “The Glamourous Life” which also did not make the album and was given to Sheila E who had played on the original recording. It became the title track to her first solo album which was also released in June of 1984 at the same time as the movie, the soundtrack and Ice Cream Castle. The song was a Top 10 smash across the board. The third song was another Prince composition, “17 Days,” which never got past the piano/vocal demo stage at the time. This song might not have been part of the album project and may have been intended for a possible Brenda Bennett solo album.
“During the active years I spent working with Prince, he had spoken to me a couple of times about doing a solo album with me. He thought my performances with Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6 were good, but he also realized that the music I was doing at the time wasn’t really me or the best for my type of voice. He has a good instinct about things like that and asked if I would be interested in doing a solo project with him outside of Apollonia 6. I thanked him and wholeheartedly agreed. But with the success of the Purple Rain film and then the tour, Prince’s path turned in a different direction.” Prince wound up making a full recording of “17 Days” on his own and released it as the non-album B-side to “When Doves Cry,” the lead single from the soundtrack.
By the fall of 1984, everything that had been released since June had proven to be massive hits and it was time to hit the road. The entire crew (minus The Time who had begun to fall apart even while Ice Cream Castle was still on the charts) embarked on a five month tour featuring Prince with his new backing band, The Revolution, and Sheila E as the opening act. The tour proved to be a sellout and is considered one of the most successful tours in history up until that time. Apollonia 6 simultaneously began a round of promotional appearances to support their album. Their schedule sometimes allowed for them to meet up with the Prince tour and they would appear during the encores.
Once the dust cleared in the Spring of 1985, it became clear that things within the Prince organization would be changing. Prince threw himself into the production of a second movie which would become Under The Cherry Moon. The Time broke up and would not reunite for six years. And things were changing within Brenda’s group as well. Although they did not plan to disband, the two other women made it clear that they would be pursuing other interests in the future. Susan, who had not fully participated in the recording of the Apollonia 6 album, announced that she planned to go back to school. Apollonia wished to return to acting and took a role on the hit nighttime soap opera Falcon Crest. But before heading their separate ways, the group took on two more projects which everyone felt might keep up interest in the group and generate more album sales during their time off.
“One of them was a “mini-movie” version or long-form video of the album where there was a story line and parts were acted out to coincide with four of our songs off the album. The project was dubbed “Mr. Christian’s Birthday.” As long and hard as the hours were on this project, I really enjoyed doing it. I could see a lot of potential in this being a good tool for promotion. One of the biggest highlights of this project for me was working with Ricky Nelson. He played Mr. Christian. It was about a month later that he died in a plane crash. Unfortunately, Prince never liked the “Mr. Christian” project and it never got any further than the first edits. Such a waste of time and money…but, somehow, somewhere along the line, someone got their hands on it and parts of it will show up on YouTube now and then. The other project we did was a semi-nude photo session using live doves. There were a dozen or more cages of all these white doves that were set free once we got on the set and began to start posing. The photo session was to produce a poster. I never saw the finished product, but I do know it got out there finally.”
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