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Thread started 02/02/16 8:29pm

heymistermusic

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Requesting background information on 'Purple medley' release


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I've been reading a bit about the PURPLE MEDLEY. I didn't find out much on WHY he put out this single.


Prince has never been one to live in the past, and I'm betting that he was just finishing out his requirements with WB.


I'm no expert, and no moderater. I would love to discuss this single a bit and the back story behind it.

Could anyone enlighten us with what REALLY went down at that time?

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Reply #1 posted 02/02/16 8:54pm

thedoorkeeper

Check it out on Prince Vault:

http://www.princevault.co...ple_Medley

http://www.princevault.co...ple_Medley

There is an explanation of its backstory
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Reply #2 posted 02/02/16 10:13pm

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And the award for the least descriptive topic title goes to....

Also: Never been one to live the past? You're new right?
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Reply #3 posted 02/02/16 11:49pm

breakdown2k14

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He does live in the past when he's in concert .Most of his songs are from the 80's and 90's
There's Joy in repetition
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Reply #4 posted 02/03/16 3:47am

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thedoorkeeper said:

Check it out on Prince Vault: http://www.princevault.co...ple_Medley http://www.princevault.co...ple_Medley There is an explanation of its backstory

It only says it was associated with the tour and released alongside the 2 video albums but it doesn't really explain what went into P's head that he would decide to record and release it in the first place. The tour was totally centered aroud tracks from the Come/TGE/Exodus sessions, so it's not as if it had been a "best of" tour (in which case it'd have made sense). I don't think it had anything to do with contractual obligations either, so IDK, but I'd love to know why this single happened.

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Reply #5 posted 02/03/16 3:49am

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^It has to be noted that for some unknown reason Kirk remixed a lot of old songs at that time (the Kirky J's B-Sides Medley is made of some of those remixes, and some others have leaked on boots). I wonder if there could have been a project of a remix album or something floating at some point in P's mind and if this could have led him to record the medley as well. Pure speculation here but since the medley was connected to Kirk's mixes...

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Reply #6 posted 02/03/16 4:02am

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Its a hott mix though .Both Purple medley and the b sides remix are great
There's Joy in repetition
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Reply #7 posted 02/03/16 4:15am

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breakdown2k14 said:

Its a hott mix though .Both Purple medley and the b sides remix are great

eek eek

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Reply #8 posted 02/03/16 7:44am

NorthC

It was probably intended as a sort of "goodbye note". After all, he said Prince dead in those years. Doesn't it say "rest in peace motherfucker" at the end? I'm not even sure I still have this...
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Reply #9 posted 02/03/16 8:34am

KCOOLMUZIQ

At the time prince was re recording his WHOLE catalog to regain ownership of his masters. Eye don't know how far he got. But Kirky J did the mix for this EPIC single. Eye absolutely LOVED IT! It stayed in rotation on Kcool-fm that whole year..Eye just couldn't get enough of it. Eye would have love to hear each song he redid seperately. It sounded like a brilliant idea!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #10 posted 02/03/16 8:34am

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I think it was also his throwback to "Hooked on Classics"! I think part of him thought it was funny.

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Reply #11 posted 02/03/16 9:40am

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It's a fun project and kinda came out of nowhere. I remember just seeing it in the store one day, no notice or anything.

There's a video too.

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Reply #12 posted 02/03/16 9:52am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

At the time prince was re recording his WHOLE catalog to regain ownership of his masters. Eye don't know how far he got. But Kirky J did the mix for this EPIC single. Eye absolutely LOVED IT! It stayed in rotation on Kcool-fm that whole year..Eye just couldn't get enough of it. Eye would have love to hear each song he redid seperately. It sounded like a brilliant idea!

I don't think the rerecording project had began in early 1995. Sessions are pretty well documented up until mid-1996 and there's no mention of that project (which was also announced much later, in 97 or 98 IIRC). I believe those rerecording sessions took place circa 97-01.

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Reply #13 posted 02/03/16 9:52am

NorthC

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

At the time prince was re recording his WHOLE catalog to regain ownership of his masters. Eye don't know how far he got. But Kirky J did the mix for this EPIC single. Eye absolutely LOVED IT! It stayed in rotation on Kcool-fm that whole year..Eye just couldn't get enough of it. Eye would have love to hear each song he redid seperately. It sounded like a brilliant idea!


That re-recording plan came a few years later, 1998 I think it was. The idea was to rerecord all his albums, so that this time he would own the master tapes and there would be two versions of every album, an original and a new one with TAFKAP hoping that everybody would buy the new ones. Doesn't sound like a brilliant idea to me and of course it was just another one of his short-lived ideas. He probably didn't get very far anyway. Hemay have started rerecording For You and gotten bored with it and then move on to something else. We did get 1999 The New Master though, which is all the more reason to be happy that this idea didn't materialize.
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Reply #14 posted 02/03/16 9:56am

databank

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NorthC said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

At the time prince was re recording his WHOLE catalog to regain ownership of his masters. Eye don't know how far he got. But Kirky J did the mix for this EPIC single. Eye absolutely LOVED IT! It stayed in rotation on Kcool-fm that whole year..Eye just couldn't get enough of it. Eye would have love to hear each song he redid seperately. It sounded like a brilliant idea!

That re-recording plan came a few years later, 1998 I think it was. The idea was to rerecord all his albums, so that this time he would own the master tapes and there would be two versions of every album, an original and a new one with TAFKAP hoping that everybody would buy the new ones. Doesn't sound like a brilliant idea to me and of course it was just another one of his short-lived ideas. H probably didn't get very far anyway. emay have started rerecording For You and gotten bored with it and then move on to something else. We did get 1999 The New Master though, which is all the more reason to be happy that this idea didn't materialize.

According to 2 different sources more or less the whole WB catalogue was indeed rerecorded (including b-sides!) over the course of several years, though it seems only certain parts were rerecorded and certain others were kept intact (something P probably couldn't legally have gotten away with had he released the whole thing). This project is among the great mysteries of P's career and I hope some light will eventually be shed on it. The problem seems to be that most of P's collaborators after 1996 signed very strict confidentiality agreements and/or hope to still work with him in the future, so they won't talk.

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Reply #15 posted 02/03/16 10:00am

NorthC

Really? Well, I was just guessing. Didn't seem to me that someone who changes his mind as often as Prince would see it through. It looks like such a waste of time to me.
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Reply #16 posted 02/03/16 10:01am

jaawwnn

The absolute horror of the re-recordings that this release suggests really makes me want to hear them. I suspect they sound like those godawful soundalike albums on Spotify you come across now and then. One of his maddest 90's releases.

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Reply #17 posted 02/03/16 10:03am

KCOOLMUZIQ

databank said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

At the time prince was re recording his WHOLE catalog to regain ownership of his masters. Eye don't know how far he got. But Kirky J did the mix for this EPIC single. Eye absolutely LOVED IT! It stayed in rotation on Kcool-fm that whole year..Eye just couldn't get enough of it. Eye would have love to hear each song he redid seperately. It sounded like a brilliant idea!

I don't think the rerecording project had began in early 1995. Sessions are pretty well documented up until mid-1996 and there's no mention of that project (which was also announced much later, in 97 or 98 IIRC). I believe those rerecording sessions took place circa 97-01.

Just because it was announced later. Doesn't mean the process wasn't started earlier. Listening to the Purple Medley verifies it to capacity. Those were definitely excerpts of remakes he had finished. U can't deny that. I listened to each note very carefully & know what I'm talking about..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #18 posted 02/03/16 10:16am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

databank said:

I don't think the rerecording project had began in early 1995. Sessions are pretty well documented up until mid-1996 and there's no mention of that project (which was also announced much later, in 97 or 98 IIRC). I believe those rerecording sessions took place circa 97-01.

Just because it was announced later. Doesn't mean the process wasn't started earlier. Listening to the Purple Medley verifies it to capacity. Those were definitely excerpts of remakes he had finished. U can't deny that. I listened to each note very carefully & know what I'm talking about..

rolleyes

Just because Purple Medley was released in 1995 doesn't prove the remasters project was already ongoing either.

Just because you have listened to every note carefully (whatever that means) doesn't mean u have an audio time machine in your brain that allows you to date recordings.

And don't use "are" and "definitely" when you are 100% speculating, since you are and the very few infos from insiders we have, as well as reports on recording sessions in 94-96 tend to indicate the opposite.

Pull yourself together, mate!

The project may indeed have already started by early 1995, but it's unlikely.

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Reply #19 posted 02/03/16 10:28am

KCOOLMUZIQ

rolleyes

NOBODY knows absolutely when prince recorded something. prince could be hiding a whole other vault in California somewhere nobody knows about. U can read The Vault book or PrinceVault till your eyes popped out. Doesn't mean every single song he's done is detailed in there.Please use commom sense...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #20 posted 02/03/16 11:28am

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This is exactly what I was hoping for. A dialog about the back story surrounding this single. I was so excited to see that Kirky J's mix had Shockadelica, but disappointed that the mix wasn't as solid as the full mix on side A.

I love that the org has so much knowledge and opinions about anything and everything in the Prince world.

Sometimes, if I'm looking for a greatest snippets song, I'll put this on, and eventually settle on something I heard in the mix.

Kcool, like a presidential bunker, how awesome would it be that there would be a SECOND vault of music somewhere. After all, wasn't there talk about a second Purple Medley?

If Prince was in the process of re-recording everything, I flashed back to Buckner and Garcia. It just never turned out to be the same sound.

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Reply #21 posted 02/03/16 11:32am

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Video was alsao recorded and played during the Love 4 One Another film on VH1

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Reply #22 posted 02/03/16 11:35am

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A trip through alt.music.prince brought up some fun rumors from that time (no concrete information, but at least some of what we knew then!

"Form[sic] what I've heard the PM was considered as an album to help fufill the contract but upon doing this he had to give WB the GOLD masters."

https://groups.google.com...discussion

"According to The Prince Family (via their recorded message line/phone #
508/921-8013), a new single will be released on Tuesday, Feb. 28 in the
U.S. But, it's not a GE track -- supposedly, it will be the "Purple
Medley" that was played on the AMAs.

I just got off of the phone with Publicity at WB in New York and they say
nothing about this is posted on their information, so who knows?

*IF* this was true, and the "Purple Medley" was released, I have a strong
feeling that it would die an equally painful death in the marketplace as
"Space" (which never even cracked the Hot 100 on Billboard). So why would
anyone bother?

Also, it is fairly evident that TGE is NOT coming out in March. I was told
that *no* releases were scheduled -- and if a lead single isn't lined up
by now, there's no way the album will be ready to ship by the 15th of next
month.

I guess Beat@bitstream is still our best bet: 2nd quarter of the year
(April, May or June -- if at all) I'm really beginning to wonder about
this as time passes though. It feels like TGE is becoming more of an
apparition every day sad"
https://groups.google.com...discussion

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Reply #23 posted 02/03/16 11:55am

NorthC

The Purple Medley was also used as an intro to his 1995 live shows. The recorded version was played over the PA. (Can't remember if it was with or without video. We also saw videos of 18 & Over and Same December before the show.) And then prince shouted:"HOLLAND! (or: LONDON! or: BELGIUM!) PRINCE IS DEAD! LONG LIVE THE NEW POWER GENERATION! And then the band started Endorphinmachine. So that was probably his way of saying, that was then, this is Now!
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Reply #24 posted 02/03/16 12:11pm

SoulAlive

I always assumed that it was just a quick medley that he threw together for his appearance on the American Music Awards....and then later decided to release it as a single.

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Reply #25 posted 02/03/16 12:29pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

heymistermusic said:

This is exactly what I was hoping for. A dialog about the back story surrounding this single. I was so excited to see that Kirky J's mix had Shockadelica, but disappointed that the mix wasn't as solid as the full mix on side A.

I love that the org has so much knowledge and opinions about anything and everything in the Prince world.

Sometimes, if I'm looking for a greatest snippets song, I'll put this on, and eventually settle on something I heard in the mix.

Kcool, like a presidential bunker, how awesome would it be that there would be a SECOND vault of music somewhere. After all, wasn't there talk about a second Purple Medley?

If Prince was in the process of re-recording everything, I flashed back to Buckner and Garcia. It just never turned out to be the same sound.

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #26 posted 02/03/16 12:32pm

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NorthC said:

The Purple Medley was also used as an intro to his 1995 live shows. The recorded version was played over the PA. (Can't remember if it was with or without video. We also saw videos of 18 & Over and Same December before the show.) And then prince shouted:"HOLLAND! (or: LONDON! or: BELGIUM!) PRINCE IS DEAD! LONG LIVE THE NEW POWER GENERATION! And then the band started Endorphinmachine. So that was probably his way of saying, that was then, this is Now!
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I remember those videos being shown at Manchester. Also Zannalee and possibly Empty Room. I stood there watching them thinking how cool it was all these great unreleased songs with videos.
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As for The Purple Medley, I thought it was ok. The Purple Rain bit sounds good. I remember reading something similar to what KCOOL said - they were parts of the re-recording project.
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Reply #27 posted 02/03/16 1:08pm

NorthC

^Yeah, Zannalee and Empty Room, those were the other ones. This thread is surely bringing back memories. That tour was a die hard fan's dream. Unreleased songs on the PA, nothing but new songs in the set, lots of aftershows! biggrin
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Reply #28 posted 02/03/16 2:46pm

TrevorAyer

I really never got the impression that the medley took anything thing from any original or re recorded song

All of the medley sounds cheap and quickly thrown together ... Certainly enjoyable for what it was

Its a drum beat with quick vocal passes all newly recorded and some fresh minimal instrumental recordings ... The guitar sounds recorded direct with no amp .. Its all very quickly thrown together but sampling is highly doubtful
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Reply #29 posted 02/03/16 11:17pm

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I don't think I've listened to "Purple Medley" for well over a decade. I almost forgot it even existed. Might check it out later this evening. Thanks for reminding me about this obscure track cool

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