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NorthC said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh for crying out loud, no it wasn't. Dude was already percieved as a weirdo, and this just made him look more weird. By then he'd already pulled a truckload of stupid stunts (like not touring SOTT in the US) and this was just another item on the heap.

Oh for crying out loud, his weirdness was exactly what made him so fascinating! Even when he screws up, he's interesting. This stunt kept him in the public eye, it created a hype and when he followed the non-release of The Black Album with the fantastic Lovesexy, it only made people realize even more how incredibly creative he was.

Oh for crying out louder!

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh for crying out loud, that shit cost him MILLIONS. Stop posting this absurd nonsense.

Imagine that. Somebody doing something for artistic reasons and not financial. Is it possible you may have missed your calling as a Paisley Park accountant?

TheDigitalGardener said:

Don't buy Phase One, I'm sorry!

hehehehe...good one!

TheDigitalGardener said:

bigd74 said:

I don't buy the whole Black Album thing. i mean he recorded it, pressed it for release, at the 11 hour pulled it, knowing it would fall into some hands. then saying sorry, only to play 3 songs from it in the following tour. it was planned that way. to get it's legendary status. getting music out there without actually releasing it.

You are halfway correct. He did plan to release the Black Album without the name Prince on it. Just the song titles. And he did start it with the slowed down message "So you found me, this is Prince..."

But he did plan to release it.

I wish he had gone through with the plan.

Much like he tried to release the first Madhouse album with an entire fake band credited in the initial publicity and no mention of Prince. When it was really all him and Eric Leeds.

bigd74 said:

I don't buy the whole Black Album thing. i mean he recorded it, pressed it for release, at the 11 hour pulled it, knowing it would fall into some hands. then saying sorry, only to play 3 songs from it in the following tour. it was planned that way. to get it's legendary status. getting music out there without actually releasing it.

agree

Germanegro said:

NorthC said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh for crying out loud, no it wasn't. Dude was already percieved as a weirdo, and this just made him look more weird. By then he'd already pulled a truckload of stupid stunts (like not touring SOTT in the US) and this was just another item on the heap.

Oh for crying out loud, his weirdness was exactly what made him so fascinating! Even when he screws up, he's interesting. This stunt kept him in the public eye, it created a hype and when he followed the non-release of The Black Album with the fantastic Lovesexy, it only made people realize even more how incredibly creative he was.

Oh for crying out loud--BVH is only mad at the cool prince and court jester, Prince R. Nelson. Besides--YES--Prince is unusually talented, forward-thinking, fashion-risk-breaking, money-taking, and gloriously strange in a special, endearing way to those willing and able to vibe. But BVH can call him WEIRD. Does BVH know what the driving force behind Prince's action could have been, beyond general weirdness? I read from somewhere that P. had a series of dreams that moved him to act in that way.

Doozer said:

Germanegro said:

I hadn't considered whether Prince's recording then withholding the release of the Black Album was a surreptitious effort to market a new image to the public, but if so, that was a stroke of marketing genius! I thought that the subliminal message that flashed on the "Alphabet St." video was his apology for having to ask his fans not to buy the referred product that he knew would be getting out to them since he recorded it and prepared it for distribution, and remorse for the recording, itself. He did seem to make a pretty big deal about it though, as another here has said! I mean, it did figure pretty large in telling the story of Lovesexy's genesis. Maybe the inspiration for the scenario was a marketing ploy or the artist's self-guilt for wanting to be more positively inspirational to the public--who knows? I guess that the legend will live on in perpetuity for those who care.

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Listening to the Black Album version published by WB, I always felt that the song "When 2 R in Love" stuck in the middle was a misfit. After I had earlier heard the song "Scarlett Pussy" (on the B-Side to the "Eye Wish U Heaven" 12-inch single) and later heard the Black Album, it seemed to me that that song should have gone into that slot. Its sonics are different from the rest of the record, but the subject tone seens pitch perfect.

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For the deep-digging behind-the-scenes investigators, I wonder if anybody might unearth what the original song lineup could have been for the Black Album project. Maybe the knowlegde lurks only in Prince's mind!

No deep-digging required. The track listing on the 1994 WB release is as it was intended for its original release years earlier. Confirmed by the few initial pressings of the album that survived destruction.

Hey, thanks! That's fascinating, and interesting as the same music did appear on both albums; at least one song, anyway. Like other enthusiasts, I like to imagine my own preferred track lineup for the disc.

I like the album but agree that "When 2 R in Love" doesn't fit. I tend to hate the ballads anyway and never liked that song at all but for some reason Prince always has to stick another version of "Do ME BAby" or "The Beautiful Ones" on every record just to woo the ladies.

Wait... meant to say "Oh, for Crying out Loud!" before I posted that.

"Oh, for Crying out Loud!" shut up already damn.

controversy99 said:

He was sorry for recording such a dark album. So he didn't release it, and he didn't want people to buy it. Instead people should by the uplifting Lovesexy album that replaced. At least that's my understanding.

But what about about it does he regret? He has played Bob George, Dead On It, Superfunkicalifragisexy, Rock Hard In A Funky Place, 2 Nigs United for west compton and When 2 R In Love live in concerts. So does that mean the songs he regrets is Le Grind and Cindy C? I have never really understodd what was so bad about this album so there must be something I am missing.

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