Making muziq videos nowadays is a waste of time & money 4 an artist like . He is already worldwide known. Plus his muziq speaks 4 itself. This song becoming a hit is the icing on the cake of an already successful career after almost 40 years in the business. But yet peeps here rarely talk about his accomplishments. Instead focus on his hair. Smh

PurpleJedi said:

savagedreams said:

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you make it sound as if everything he ever released was destroyed. did you not ever buy anything of prince that you can play to show someone about prince? why should all music be available for free online?

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does no one remember that we actually did discover abd ourchase new music once upon a time before the internet existed?

[Edited 2/10/16 18:13pm]

Seriously?

I was making a factual & truthful STATEMENT, not looking to imply any sort of mass destruction of music.
Your opinion is obviously in the vein of Prince's. That's all well and good.
But, the FACT of the matter is; kids today aren't going to Tower Records like we did back in the day. It's ALL about social media and the internet.

The fact that you dismiss the legitimacy of "a billion views" on the internet leads me to believe that you're not entirely up to date with what's going on today.

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my opinion comes from the point of view that im a musician and dont see why i (or any musician) should feel obligated to give away what i work hard on for free. and whats the legitmicy of a million views? yes, a million people watched you, for free. thats the legitmate truth. yes im up to date on how it works these days, but even if i accept it it doesnt mean im going to make enough money to even finance my next recording. just because things are the way they are doesnt mean its right.

[Edited 2/12/16 8:07am]

PurpleJedi said:

savagedreams said:

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you make it sound as if everything he ever released was destroyed. did you not ever buy anything of prince that you can play to show someone about prince? why should all music be available for free online?

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does no one remember that we actually did discover abd ourchase new music once upon a time before the internet existed?

Seriously?

I was making a factual & truthful STATEMENT, not looking to imply any sort of mass destruction of music.
Your opinion is obviously in the vein of Prince's. That's all well and good.
But, the FACT of the matter is; kids today aren't going to Tower Records like we did back in the day. It's ALL about social media and the internet.

The fact that you dismiss the legitimacy of "a billion views" on the internet leads me to believe that you're not entirely up to date with what's going on today.

Youtube is the MTV of this generation.It can be a very valuable promotional tool for many artists and bands,for those who know how to benefit from it.

SoulAlive said:

PurpleJedi said:

Seriously?

I was making a factual & truthful STATEMENT, not looking to imply any sort of mass destruction of music.
Your opinion is obviously in the vein of Prince's. That's all well and good.
But, the FACT of the matter is; kids today aren't going to Tower Records like we did back in the day. It's ALL about social media and the internet.

The fact that you dismiss the legitimacy of "a billion views" on the internet leads me to believe that you're not entirely up to date with what's going on today.

Youtube is the MTV of this generation.It can be a very valuable promotional tool for many artists and bands,for those who know how to benefit from it.

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except it serves a very different purpose. mtv showed videos that were basically commercials for albums and singles, then people had to go out and buy them because you couldnt carry mtv around in your pocket. with you tube, you can carry it around everywhere you go on your phone, so most people opt for that rather than buying the music. you can even download the audio or the video easily from youtube and have it in a form that doesnt require streaming, again... without paying for it. youtube really only benefits artists who are already huge, which then begs the question of why bother throwing the money at a video, and yes, a very small percentage of lesser known or unknown bands can benefit from it, but not many.

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Remember this! Everything does is 4 a reason.

SoulAlive said:

Youtube is the MTV of this generation.It can be a very valuable promotional tool for many artists and bands,for those who know how to benefit from it.

I have to agree, if it wasn't for Missy Elliot's recent video on YOUtube, I wouldn't have never known anything about Les Twins which I need to go to rehab for and I need to bring my mother along too. never ending videos of them.. I need

Laurent is my 'new fresh' Prince

He's Mr.Wildchild and Larry his daddy

(clickonmyprofileheisonewithbiglion )

Les Twins 2016

[Edited 2/12/16 16:58pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EmmaMcG said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Remember this! Everything does is 4 a reason.

I'm sure he has his reasons but if you were in his position, would you be happy with the kind of sales and awareness he's had in recent years or would you like more people to be exposed to the music you've created? 1000 Hugs and kisses deserves more recognition and a video on YouTube would go a long way to achieving that. This is a Fan site. Most people on here only want the best for Prince. When he makes good music, some feel it should be shared with a wider audience.

knows how to get sales & top 10 albums. Did U 4get the independent release LotusFlow3r that debuted @ number#2 and went gold? With only one retailer Target? He did that! If it wasn't for label politics with Keith Urban. Whose record label fixed his sales . would have debut @ #1...

puts out way more albums than any other artist. This is his fourth album in barely a year! They can't all be top 10 sellers. It wouldn't be humanly possible...

All of U put way too much pressure on him.

EmmaMcG said:

RosesRred said:

Why waste money,energy and time? Does it really matter at this point?? A video isnt going to have his music flying off the shelves. Reality check people, sometimes when i mention Prince to people, I feel like i'm the only person in the whole universe who really cares about any of his past or his future projects. I wish I didn't feel like that but thats reality. A music video will not bring back the masses. Another reality check for me: I just realize that Lotusflow3r was the last CD i have purchased. Now that tells you what? If I'm losing interest then that tells me Houston we have a problem. [Edited 2/9/16 16:38pm]

It may not bring back the masses, but most of my friends don't know who Prince is, and the ones that do couldn't name 5 songs. One friend of mine, who is a (semi)well known singer/actress, thought he was dead. And she's in the music industry! If nothing else, a video would create some awareness that he's still around. And you never know, there's every chance that he could have a surprise hit. I mean, nobody expected Nile Rogers to top the charts but he had a big hit a couple of years ago.

You need to or that friend that thought he had expired!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Astasheiks said:

EmmaMcG said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

knows how to get sales & top 10 albums. Did U 4get the independent release LotusFlow3r that debuted @ number#2 and went gold? With only one retailer Target? He did that! If it wasn't for label politics with Keith Urban. Whose record label fixed his sales . would have debut @ #1...

puts out way more albums than any other artist. This is his fourth album in barely a year! They can't all be top 10 sellers. It wouldn't be humanly possible...

All of U put way too much pressure on him.

Lotusflow3r was very successful considering how it was released but that was 2009. 7 years is a long time in pop. Prince is still a big name in music, you only have to look at the publicity he gets for appearances on awards shows to see that, but his music isn't getting the attention it deserves these days. His work rate is very impressive. 4 albums in 15 months is an achievement in itself. But add up the sales of those 4 albums and combined, they aren't good. 3121 was a big hit. I was one month shy of my 16th birthday when that came out and people in my class in school who up to then didn't really know who Prince was outside of the rumours of him having his rib removed, bought the album because they had seen a video for Black Sweat and liked it. Awareness was created from that video. People's negative perceptions of Prince changed. Now, 1000 Hugs and kisses is a fantastic song with genuine mainstream appeal. Had a video been released for that and promoted, it would have been a success. Same can be said for some of the songs from all 4 recent albums. Again, I'm sure Prince has his reasons, maybe he doesn't enjoy the promotion side of the business, but it's a shame that more people haven't heard his recent output, especially Phase Two, which I would say is his best album in years.

Nowadays with social media. To me all an artist has to do is just post directly to their fans and that's instant promotion. Maybe feels a video isn't necessary anymore. But he has released a few well put together lyric videos recently for his releases(have U forgotten that?). He also post constantly on twitter on a daily.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EmmaMcG said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Nowadays with social media. To me all an artist has to do is just post directly to their fans and that's instant promotion. Maybe feels a video isn't necessary anymore. But he has released a few well put together lyric videos recently for his releases(have U forgotten that?). He also post constantly on twitter on a daily.

No, I haven't forgotten the lyric videos but if only his die hard fans are aware of his releases then that's not going to make a big impact. Don't you agree that albums like phase two deserve to be appreciated by more people.

Yes they do! But U can't make people listen to or buy any music anymore. still knows how to go through the machine and get his albums noticed when he wants them to have worldwide acceptance. He's been in the business going on 40years! Even when he released albums in the 80's not everybody knew about them. Except the diehards. Some of them barely went gold like LoveSexy & Graffiti Bridge.Even though "Kiss" was a big hit! Parade wasn't considered a blockbuster album back then. Only when he went on tour the casual fans would go see him. Because of his reputation as a artist that delivered on stage. But none of them knew about his legendary aftershows or at the spare of the moment HitnRun shows. Only the diehards. It's really no different now.

has always been a underground/superstar artist. He knows what to do get the attention of the masses who doesn't know anything after Purple Rain. Then turn around and cater to just his diehards who know about every 39th album he released.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EmmaMcG said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said: No, I haven't forgotten the lyric videos but if only his die hard fans are aware of his releases then that's not going to make a big impact. Don't you agree that albums like phase two deserve to be appreciated by more people.

Yes they do! But U can't make people listen to or buy any music anymore.

When have you ever been able to make people buy or listen to music? The whole point of commercializing art is convincing people that your product is strong and entertaining enough for people do do so.

SoulAlive said:

PurpleJedi said:

Seriously?

I was making a factual & truthful STATEMENT, not looking to imply any sort of mass destruction of music.
Your opinion is obviously in the vein of Prince's. That's all well and good.
But, the FACT of the matter is; kids today aren't going to Tower Records like we did back in the day. It's ALL about social media and the internet.

The fact that you dismiss the legitimacy of "a billion views" on the internet leads me to believe that you're not entirely up to date with what's going on today.

Youtube is the MTV of this generation.It can be a very valuable promotional tool for many artists and bands,for those who know how to benefit from it.

My daughter is 15 and an avid music fan. I asked her about this topic.
When she hears a song on the radio that she likes, she pulls out the cellphone and "Shazams" it to see who it is.

Then it's off to YouTube to see the video.
THEN she will Spotify or Soundcloud the song.
Since she doesn't have iTunes, if she likes it enough, she buys the song RIGHT THROUGH THE LINK ON YOUTUBE.

Yes, that's right. You can buy music right off of Youtube.

Imagine that.

The fact that Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber are still making tons of money by promoting music the way that this generation listens/views/buys it means that IT WORKS.

...albeit not for everyone.

EmmaMcG said:

Astasheiks said:

You need to or that friend that thought he had expired!

Already taken care of.

good

NorthC said:

EmmaMcG said:

Music videos cost money to make. Unless it's one of those shitty lyric videos, in which case, it can be made in 10 minutes using cheap editing software. But who wants another one of them?

I think Prince started that whole thing with Sign O' the Times. Damn.

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AFAIK Warners ordered that video, Prince didn't have anything to do with it.

EmmaMcG said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

knows how to get sales & top 10 albums. Did U 4get the independent release LotusFlow3r that debuted @ number#2 and went gold? With only one retailer Target? He did that! If it wasn't for label politics with Keith Urban. Whose record label fixed his sales . would have debut @ #1...

puts out way more albums than any other artist. This is his fourth album in barely a year! They can't all be top 10 sellers. It wouldn't be humanly possible...

All of U put way too much pressure on him.

Lotusflow3r was very successful considering how it was released but that was 2009. 7 years is a long time in pop. Prince is still a big name in music, you only have to look at the publicity he gets for appearances on awards shows to see that, but his music isn't getting the attention it deserves these days. His work rate is very impressive. 4 albums in 15 months is an achievement in itself. But add up the sales of those 4 albums and combined, they aren't good. 3121 was a big hit. I was one month shy of my 16th birthday when that came out and people in my class in school who up to then didn't really know who Prince was outside of the rumours of him having his rib removed, bought the album because they had seen a video for Black Sweat and liked it. Awareness was created from that video. People's negative perceptions of Prince changed. Now, 1000 Hugs and kisses is a fantastic song with genuine mainstream appeal. Had a video been released for that and promoted, it would have been a success. Same can be said for some of the songs from all 4 recent albums. Again, I'm sure Prince has his reasons, maybe he doesn't enjoy the promotion side of the business, but it's a shame that more people haven't heard his recent output, especially Phase Two, which I would say is his best album in years.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!


I can't tell you how psyched I was to keep hearing that song on the radio...not top 40 of course (R&B radio station) but STILL, it brought a smile to my face.

I was at the bar with my buddy and I mentioned it. What did he do? Pull out his cell phone and tried to YouTube the song.

PurpleJedi said:

EmmaMcG said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said: Lotusflow3r was very successful considering how it was released but that was 2009. 7 years is a long time in pop. Prince is still a big name in music, you only have to look at the publicity he gets for appearances on awards shows to see that, but his music isn't getting the attention it deserves these days. His work rate is very impressive. 4 albums in 15 months is an achievement in itself. But add up the sales of those 4 albums and combined, they aren't good. 3121 was a big hit. I was one month shy of my 16th birthday when that came out and people in my class in school who up to then didn't really know who Prince was outside of the rumours of him having his rib removed, bought the album because they had seen a video for Black Sweat and liked it. Awareness was created from that video. People's negative perceptions of Prince changed. Now, 1000 Hugs and kisses is a fantastic song with genuine mainstream appeal. Had a video been released for that and promoted, it would have been a success. Same can be said for some of the songs from all 4 recent albums. Again, I'm sure Prince has his reasons, maybe he doesn't enjoy the promotion side of the business, but it's a shame that more people haven't heard his recent output, especially Phase Two, which I would say is his best album in years.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!


I can't tell you how psyched I was to keep hearing that song on the radio...not top 40 of course (R&B radio station) but STILL, it brought a smile to my face.

I was at the bar with my buddy and I mentioned it. What did he do? Pull out his cell phone and tried to YouTube the song.

I understand--I think we've all been down that road, sometimes it's hard to be a

true Prince fan.

RosesRred said:

PurpleJedi said:

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!


I can't tell you how psyched I was to keep hearing that song on the radio...not top 40 of course (R&B radio station) but STILL, it brought a smile to my face.

I was at the bar with my buddy and I mentioned it. What did he do? Pull out his cell phone and tried to YouTube the song.

I understand--I think we've all been down that road, sometimes it's hard to be a

true Prince fan.

NorthC said:

EmmaMcG said:

Music videos cost money to make. Unless it's one of those shitty lyric videos, in which case, it can be made in 10 minutes using cheap editing software. But who wants another one of them?

I think Prince started that whole thing with Sign O' the Times. Damn. That was pretty unusual back then. And it only added power to the song. Imagine how easy it would have been to just add images to the words. "Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off a church" coupled with images of a hurricane. That would be so boring and ruin the song. The idea of NOT doing that and just show the words was perfect.

Bob Dylan would raise an eyebrow or two reading that and then would fire up the dusty old projector and show you his video of the 1965 song Subterranean Homeslick Blues. Or he might just send you a link to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0

My 10yo and her friends get all her music from the YouTubes. Prince is completely invisible to them. I am confident she is the only one in her whole grade (of 90 kids) who actually knows who Prince is and knows a few songs. My partner blames me.

vegasE said:

NorthC said:

EmmaMcG said: I think Prince started that whole thing with Sign O' the Times. Damn. That was pretty unusual back then. And it only added power to the song. Imagine how easy it would have been to just add images to the words. "Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off a church" coupled with images of a hurricane. That would be so boring and ruin the song. The idea of NOT doing that and just show the words was perfect.

Bob Dylan would raise an eyebrow or two reading that and then would fire up the dusty old projector and show you his video of the 1965 song Subterranean Homeslick Blues. Or he might just send you a link to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0

My 10yo and her friends get all her music from the YouTubes. Prince is completely invisible to them. I am confident she is the only one in her whole grade (of 90 kids) who actually knows who Prince is and knows a few songs. My partner blames me.

Probably.