SignOthetimes1987 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

people always harping about me due to my distribution and sales posts... well... this is what we get...

prince will NEVER have remastered or re issue deluxe releases as long as he is alive. he keeps wanting more and more money for a fan base that is basically non existant anymore in terms of people BUYING his works...

look at what's happening with pHASE 2 distribution.

MIRvmn said:

love2thenines2003 said:

Tweet from Prince few Minutes ago! @Prince3EG: 4 THE "VINYL"/ RECORD: RE-ISSUES WOULD HAVE BEEN AGES AGO BUT NEW PEOPLE AT WB R RESISTING PAYING NPG PROPERLY 4 COPYRIGHTS

Here we go again

Yep - let the reissue/remaster blah blah blah start again. Prince will never be happy - does he not realise ha aint ruling the charts anymore - hes not as relevant as he once was. delusion is a bitter tasting pill!!!!

The guy will continue to sit on his decreasing-in-value-as-the-years-go-by catalog just beacause it isn't 1984 anymore, therefore WB won't give him $10 million upfront for it. I wish what I just typed was a joke...

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well we dont know the details, but Princes paranoia about how much he and his music is worth is a disappointing trate he has. But running Paisley Park must be expensive so maybe he is just fighting for every penny to keep things together.

PurpleMedley122 said:

The guy will continue to sit on his decreasing-in-value-as-the-years-go-by catalog just beacause it isn't 1984 anymore, therefore WB won't give him $10 million upfront for it. I wish what I just typed was a joke...

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decreasing value is an understatement, he can't even get a proper distribution for an album... an artist of his stature only sells less than 10,000 of his latest cd? that's crazy. he killed all his visibility in social media youtube, etc. in this digital age. it's crazy... he wants millions, does he realize how low his fanbase is now? look at his last 3 album sales how low they r.

feeluupp said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

The guy will continue to sit on his decreasing-in-value-as-the-years-go-by catalog just beacause it isn't 1984 anymore, therefore WB won't give him $10 million upfront for it. I wish what I just typed was a joke...

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decreasing value is an understatement, he can't even get a proper distribution for an album... an artist of his stature only sells less than 10,000 of his latest cd? that's crazy. he killed all his visibility in social media youtube, etc. in this digital age. it's crazy... he wants millions, does he realize how low his fanbase is now? look at his last 3 album sales how low they r.

feeluupp said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

The guy will continue to sit on his decreasing-in-value-as-the-years-go-by catalog just beacause it isn't 1984 anymore, therefore WB won't give him $10 million upfront for it. I wish what I just typed was a joke...

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decreasing value is an understatement, he can't even get a proper distribution for an album... an artist of his stature only sells less than 10,000 of his latest cd? that's crazy. he killed all his visibility in social media youtube, etc. in this digital age. it's crazy... he wants millions, does he realize how low his fanbase is now? look at his last 3 album sales how low they r.

His last 3 albums are the worst selling in his entire career, with PHASE 1 selling a mere 10,000 copies (i've seen indie artists that sold better). What does that tell record companies? That he's not worth their time. He want's millions? He can't even get his diehards to come out and support him. Which is ironic since PHASE 1 is his biggest commercial sellout album ever, designed specifically to attract younger audiences (remember the dancing kids ad?) . With no music on YouTube and embedding it on a shit streaming service that has as much real suscribers as PHASE 1 had sales, he's doing a real good job at bringing in younger audiences who are probaby surprised he's even alive (trust me, most people I try to turn on to Prince say this alot), let alone making music.

PurpleMedley122 said:

feeluupp said:

decreasing value is an understatement, he can't even get a proper distribution for an album... an artist of his stature only sells less than 10,000 of his latest cd? that's crazy. he killed all his visibility in social media youtube, etc. in this digital age. it's crazy... he wants millions, does he realize how low his fanbase is now? look at his last 3 album sales how low they r.

His last 3 albums are the worst selling in his entire career, with PHASE 1 selling a mere 10,000 copies (i've seen indie artists that sold better). What does that tell record companies? That he's not worth their time. He want's millions? He can't even get his diehards to come out and support him. Which is ironic since PHASE 1 is his biggest commercial sellout album ever, designed specifically to attract younger audiences (remember the dancing kids ad?) . With no music on YouTube and embedding it on a shit streaming service that has as much real suscribers as PHASE 1 had sales, he's doing a real good job at bringing in younger audiences who are probaby surprised he's even alive (trust me, most people I try to turn on to Prince say this alot), let alone making music.

exactly. but don't tell the fams that... they'll say youtube doesn't generate album sales... they'll say buying our records instead of streaming is the way to go... they'll say no it's all record sales that are going down and that are low now a days... they'll say, he can get a proper distribution deal if he wants...

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feeluupp said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

His last 3 albums are the worst selling in his entire career, with PHASE 1 selling a mere 10,000 copies (i've seen indie artists that sold better). What does that tell record companies? That he's not worth their time. He want's millions? He can't even get his diehards to come out and support him. Which is ironic since PHASE 1 is his biggest commercial sellout album ever, designed specifically to attract younger audiences (remember the dancing kids ad?) . With no music on YouTube and embedding it on a shit streaming service that has as much real suscribers as PHASE 1 had sales, he's doing a real good job at bringing in younger audiences who are probaby surprised he's even alive (trust me, most people I try to turn on to Prince say this alot), let alone making music.

... he still doggin on WB after 20 years... u can see he is and will always be a SLAVE to the company in his mind... so sad... that's why we get all these crap albums... fams saying oh PHASE 2 is the greatest, it's amazing, PRINCE is back... naw... it's all clear now... it really is.

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feeluupp said:

feeluupp said:

... he still doggin on WB after 20 years... u can see he is and will always be a SLAVE to the company in his mind... so sad... that's why we get all these crap albums... fams saying oh PHASE 2 is the greatest, it's amazing, PRINCE is back... naw... it's all clear now... it really is.

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ALAN LEEDS really spoke the truth in the BBC DOCUMENTARY about him releaed in 2014 i believe...

He said in reality, PRINCE probably had more artistic freedom than any other artist signed to a label.

The moment I saw that link about vinyl reissues I knew it wasn't going to happen.

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And this shouldn't be a surprise. We're talking about an artist who has a song called "1999" and somehow completely fucked up getting a massive hit out of that when 1999 came around. His own idiotic incompetence and stubbornness is the cause of so much of his problems.

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He could be swimming in money if he wasn't so goddamn obsessed with imagining slights all over the place. The word "compromise" seems alien to him.

warning2all said:

There's "something" about having a "Side A" & "Side B" to the experience of a Prince album Beginning the 2nd half of the experience with a "Mountains", a "U Got The Look"; or ending Side A with "Anna Stesia" was too cool. CD's have created a different sequencing notion that isn't as good

True, true and true. And one more thing: I can never listen to all the 500gb of music I have as MP3s etc. These days, filling up a hard drive with music is easier than chewing and digesting the music. I prefer less music, so I can listen to one record over and over. Side A and Side B segregates the listening experience and makes it more digestible, like the intermission in a movie theatre. I wonder how many of us who buy so-called deluxe editions (2 or 3 discs of outtakes) on itunes etc actually listen to all 34 songs in one go. It's impossible.

Prince shouldn't "complain" about WB, but orger's SHOULD complain about Prince's every other move, every other day?

PRINCE is the most INACCESSABLE artist of this generation.

Funkyalien said:

warning2all said:

There's "something" about having a "Side A" & "Side B" to the experience of a Prince album Beginning the 2nd half of the experience with a "Mountains", a "U Got The Look"; or ending Side A with "Anna Stesia" was too cool. CD's have created a different sequencing notion that isn't as good

True, true and true. And one more thing: I can never listen to all the 500gb of music I have as MP3s etc. These days, filling up a hard drive with music is easier than chewing and digesting the music. I prefer less music, so I can listen to one record over and over. Side A and Side B segregates the listening experience and makes it more digestible, like the intermission in a movie theatre. I wonder how many of us who buy so-called deluxe editions (2 or 3 discs of outtakes) on itunes etc actually listen to all 34 songs in one go. It's impossible.

I see your point, but, in an age where people binge watch entire seasons of TV shows, it is not at all "impossible".

pdiddy2011 said:

Prince shouldn't "complain" about WB, but orger's SHOULD complain about Prince's every other move, every other day?

But Prince has already made the agreement with WB. They shook hands and issued a press release telling fans what to expect as a result of said agreement. Many of us fans were more than satisfied with what was divulged. Why is Prince complaining now?

“Here’s the remaster……however, I’d like to renegotiate the terms of our past agreement. If you want this, it will cost more money than what we agreed previously…………..”

IMO, this is a very childlike way of handling a multi-million dollar deal.

However, I must be fair and say that this may not be entirely on P. Then again, where there’s smoke and tweets………..

Adorecream said:

What about those of us with those horrible new players that can play 180gsm records. A lot of the USB capable type record players have this problem. Mine cost $200, but found out it was a cheap piece of Chinese crap that can only really play pre 1982 records and 45s.

One word: UPGRADE If you have a good stereo, you will hear a hell of a difference with a good record player vs these crappy MP3-converters.

I still play my old vinyls, sound in many cases so much better than the resprective CDs (remark to the poster above re keeping the vinyl in mint condition - you are missing out )

blacknote said:

In all honestry, I'm glad these vinyl re-issues are not happening. I have all of the original vinyl in mint condition. I have loads of vinyl, do I need more - NO. Do I really need these - NO. Will these enhance my life - NO. Would I buy these just because I am a collector - YES. Am I glad I am now saving money - YES. Has Prince kicked himself in the arse - YES yet again and again!

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Krid said:

Adorecream said:

What about those of us with those horrible new players that can play 180gsm records. A lot of the USB capable type record players have this problem. Mine cost $200, but found out it was a cheap piece of Chinese crap that can only really play pre 1982 records and 45s.

One word: UPGRADE If you have a good stereo, you will hear a hell of a difference with a good record player vs these crappy MP3-converters.

I still play my old vinyls, sound in many cases so much better than the resprective CDs (remark to the poster above re keeping the vinyl in mint condition - you are missing out )

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I totally agree!

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Most people don't realise that the master used for Vinyl is a different master used for CD - hence they sound different, but with Vinyl sounding more true to what is heard in the recording studio - that is ultimately what is trying to be achieved. So in fact, when people list to compressed mp3 files, it's like listening to a band play in a recording studio but the listener is trying to listen from 10 blocks away with their ear pressed against a brick wall!

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all the PRINCE albums I have on VINYL are...

PRINCE

DIRTY MIND

CONTROVERSY

1999

PURPLE RAIN

ATWIAD

PARADE

SIGN O' THE TIMES

THE BLACK ALBUM

LOVESEXY

BATMAN

GRAFFITI BRIDGE

DIAMONDS & PEARLS

LOVE SYMBOL

COME

1800 NEW FUNK

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC

ART OFFICIAL AGE

PLECTRUM ELECTRUM

still need:

FOR YOU

THE GOLD EXPERIENCE

NPG EXODUS

THE RAINBOW CHILDREN

LOTUSFLOW3R

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SignOthetimes1987 said:

when will he stop complaining about this bullshit????

sick and tired of this endless loop of blaming others and straight greed.

wake up ,prince,it doesnt have to be this way always!

i mean i have no idea what the actual numbers are but come on already.

it is always something with prince.. he is a slave, when will he be paid .. blah blah blah..

its really annoying..

the fans have been MORE than patient..

he has become a parody of himself and it is so damn irritating

im not saying artists deserve to have their music stolen and again i dont know the actual numbers.. but its ALWAYS this way with him.. it makes being his fan SO difficult..

i mean, everyone else figures it the f*ck out.. why cant he?

feeluupp said:

all the PRINCE albums I have on VINYL are...

PRINCE

DIRTY MIND

CONTROVERSY

1999

PURPLE RAIN

ATWIAD

PARADE

SIGN O' THE TIMES

THE BLACK ALBUM

LOVESEXY

BATMAN

GRAFFITI BRIDGE

DIAMONDS & PEARLS

LOVE SYMBOL

COME

1800 NEW FUNK

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC

ART OFFICIAL AGE

PLECTRUM ELECTRUM

still need:

FOR YOU

THE GOLD EXPERIENCE

NPG EXODUS

THE RAINBOW CHILDREN

LOTUSFLOW3R

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What about the Beautiful Experience - I suppose that is kinda an EP / album.

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I ask this because it came with a stunning full sized booklet that replicated the CD booklet. This is worth it just for that!

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Also, do you have both versions of 1999? Hits 1 and 2 aren't listed? Girl 6 and Musicology are promo albums on vinyl if they count?

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MIRvmn said:

blacknote said:

But Prince has already made the agreement with WB. They shook hands and issued a press release telling fans what to expect as a result of said agreement. Many of us fans were more than satisfied with what was divulged. Why is Prince complaining now?

“Here’s the remaster……however, I’d like to renegotiate the terms of our past agreement. If you want this, it will cost more money than what we agreed previously…………..”

IMO, this is a very childlike way of handling a multi-million dollar deal.

However, I must be fair and say that this may not be entirely on P. Then again, where there’s smoke and tweets………..

Well one thing for sure is that Prince will never get satisfied until everything is 100% on his terms, he will never get along with WB.

If a contract was finalized between WB and Prince and either party were not performing what they agreed upon, the other side would sue. You can't just breach a contract without penalty because you want to renegotiate terms.

Soooo, if Prince is saying WB aren't meeting his price, it mustn't have been specified in the original agreement. There is no way WB wouldn't sue Prince if he breached specific payment terms of the original contract.

It is amazing to me that any one of us wouldn't take a job or sell something to someone if it didn't meet our price, but Prince should take whatever is offered. If the price isn't what he feels is acceptable, he shouldn't take it. That doesn't mean he's only about money, that means he's not willing to accept less than what he feels his product is worth. It doesn't matter the true worth, it's his product.

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darkroman said:

feeluupp said:

all the PRINCE albums I have on VINYL are...

PRINCE

DIRTY MIND

CONTROVERSY

1999

PURPLE RAIN

ATWIAD

PARADE

SIGN O' THE TIMES

THE BLACK ALBUM

LOVESEXY

BATMAN

GRAFFITI BRIDGE

DIAMONDS & PEARLS

LOVE SYMBOL

COME

1800 NEW FUNK

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC

ART OFFICIAL AGE

PLECTRUM ELECTRUM

still need:

FOR YOU

THE GOLD EXPERIENCE

NPG EXODUS

THE RAINBOW CHILDREN

LOTUSFLOW3R

[Edited 2/5/16 10:22am]

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What about the Beautiful Experience - I suppose that is kinda an EP / album.

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I ask this because it came with a stunning full sized booklet that replicated the CD booklet. This is worth it just for that!

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Yes I have the BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE on VINYL, as well as SCANDELOUS SEX SUITE, and tons and tons of 12" singles...

RAINBOW CHILDREN will probably the most expensive VINYL 2 buy...

I have seen MUSICOLOGY and 3121 promos as well as well as a rare PLANET EARTH issue on vinyl, probably not official... Let me know if there are any ALBUMS I'm missing on my collection...

feeluupp said:

darkroman said:

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What about the Beautiful Experience - I suppose that is kinda an EP / album.

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I ask this because it came with a stunning full sized booklet that replicated the CD booklet. This is worth it just for that!

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Yes I have the BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE on VINYL, as well as SCANDELOUS SEX SUITE, and tons and tons of 12" singles...

RAINBOW CHILDREN will probably the most expensive VINYL 2 buy...

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The Rainbow Children vinyl is beautiful. I remember getting that in late 2001.

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How time flies!

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