Okay I heard this song a few years ago and thought it was meh... Then when I heard it on Phase Two I still thought it was decent. Now for the last two days for some reason I can't stop listening to it. It's crazy. I still think it's like the 10th best song on this album but I am obessessed with those "Take Me With U" horns throughout. I belive in fairy tales and Prince!

They are not "Take Me With U" horns! Different melody, different key, lines start on a different beat....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

But great song, I love it too!


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I've come to like it better too in the context of Phase 2. Still one of the weaker tracks though on the album, but solid nevertheless.

RodeoSchro said:

They are not "Take Me With U" horns! Different melody, different key, lines start on a different beat....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

But great song, I love it too!


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It is like taking the line from the old song and just fitting it to the new one by adjusting the technical details of the music, but it functions the exact same way, just more laid back. And I'm sure it's an intentional reference. Prince loves referencing himself musically, and he loves adding elements to his production that use nostalgia (even unconscious memory on the part of the listener) to make it resonate in the target audience; perhaps the aged teenagers who were watching Purple Rain at the movies and on VHS.

I like the (#7?) remix of this song... The others--meh.

R&NLA, Baltimore, Groovy Potential and Stare also grew on me a LOT since they're on the album. Same with Fallinlove2nite on Phase One. Having songs on an album, provided one doesn't skip tracks, allows them to grow on u while haveing random files makes it easy not to pay much attention to them. That's y I really favor albums over orphan songs. I hope more of those 2013 songs find their way to Phase 3-5 if there's gonna be 5 phases as speculated

I often hear it when I visit my grandmother in the rec room of her Home.

Pentacle said:

MIRvmn said:

It's a good song but the extended mix should have been on the album

The extended mix is the true version of the song for me.

RodeoSchro said:

NorthC said:

RodeoSchro said:

They are not "Take Me With U" horns! Different melody, different key, lines start on a different beat....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

But great song, I love it too!


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I don't care about the song, your post just looks funny!

LOL, thanks! Those were all the "Grrrrr!" emoticons I could find, LOL.

ufoclub said:

RodeoSchro said:

They are not "Take Me With U" horns! Different melody, different key, lines start on a different beat....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

But great song, I love it too!


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It is like taking the line from the old song and just fitting it to the new one by adjusting the technical details of the music, but it functions the exact same way, just more laid back. And I'm sure it's an intentional reference. Prince loves referencing himself musically, and he loves adding elements to his production that use nostalgia (even unconscious memory on the part of the listener) to make it resonate in the target audience; perhaps the aged teenagers who were watching Purple Rain at the movies and on VHS.

It's not the same line. Not even close. It does bring out that memory I guess (it never did for me until this nefarious conspiracy popped up) - maybe because the synth sounds the same and the notes are short and sharp. But musically, they are not the same line or even kissing cousins.

I feel it is my duty as a musician to nip this conspiracy in the bud. What's next? Will people be claiming there's video of Prince, Michael Jackson and James Brown all jamming at the same show?

RodeoSchro said:

I've seen it live twice and it was great both times, especially the piano version he did recently.

Have always liked this song, the new version even more so. great pop song.

bigd74 said:

Have always liked this song, the new version even more so. great pop song.

Yep, I'm the same. I just wished he used the longer version! But, luckily I can extract the new horns an vocals and just overdub them on it.

RodeoSchro said:

ufoclub said:

It is like taking the line from the old song and just fitting it to the new one by adjusting the technical details of the music, but it functions the exact same way, just more laid back. And I'm sure it's an intentional reference. Prince loves referencing himself musically, and he loves adding elements to his production that use nostalgia (even unconscious memory on the part of the listener) to make it resonate in the target audience; perhaps the aged teenagers who were watching Purple Rain at the movies and on VHS.

It's not the same line. Not even close. It does bring out that memory I guess (it never did for me until this nefarious conspiracy popped up) - maybe because the synth sounds the same and the notes are short and sharp. But musically, they are not the same line or even kissing cousins.

I feel it is my duty as a musician to nip this conspiracy in the bud. What's next? Will people be claiming there's video of Prince, Michael Jackson and James Brown all jamming at the same show?

So you got to ask yourself, if you say it has no relationship to "Take Me With You" than why are so many people saying it harkens back to that string line... and more?

Then realizing that all music is simply is creating an emotional logic and reaction through notes, tone, rhythm and arrangement (and technicalites like theory, notation, note strikes style are simply trying to describe or grasp this creation of emotional logic), how well are these technicalities actually defining music?

Let's put it this way. When there is a soundalike created for a commercial (where arrangement and notes are re-arranged to get around paying for recording or publishing rights) but a person can immediately recognize what the music is trying to imitate, but technically it is not that same music.... well then it shows how flimsy those technicalities are in trying to define music. In fact, it shows their lack of ability to define music.

All I'm saying is that if it seems to sound like something to the ear of many listeners, then it IS actually sounding like that. The perception defines what it is. The notes, and other measurements don't actually mean anything in proportion to the perception.

This is probably why some trained musicians are the worst at composing and arranging anything original but great at playing something already marked out and defined technically.

You would think that all trained musicians could simply be given emotional descriptions and then make music that caused that reaction. But that aint true!

The songs both also have a leisurely pace, like a Sunday drive, they both also have the a female voice respond with a fragment of dialog at one moment. There is a warmth there too (with melodic bass) that is not normally part of Prince's brand of music.

Do you hear how Jughead is actually Housequake redone?

PS, he has remixed the version on the new album to de-emphasize the synth lines. Makes it remind one less of "Take Me With U"

This song is another nail in the coffin as far as new Prince music is concerned. There is no hope for Prince. He has aged between the ears horribly. Thank you Larry G. Maybe Prince should have like a GREATEST MISSES album, for all the songs (like Dinner With Delores) that were too bad to be good and probably never should have come out, but not so bad that you feel like hitting the skip button when they come on.

bluegangsta said:

bigd74 said:

Have always liked this song, the new version even more so. great pop song.

Yep, I'm the same. I just wished he used the longer version! But, luckily I can extract the new horns an vocals and just overdub them on it.

would love to hear that when it's done

ufoclub said:

RodeoSchro said:

It's not the same line. Not even close. It does bring out that memory I guess (it never did for me until this nefarious conspiracy popped up) - maybe because the synth sounds the same and the notes are short and sharp. But musically, they are not the same line or even kissing cousins.

I feel it is my duty as a musician to nip this conspiracy in the bud. What's next? Will people be claiming there's video of Prince, Michael Jackson and James Brown all jamming at the same show?

So you got to ask yourself, if you say it has no relationship to "Take Me With You" than why are so many people saying it harkens back to that string line... and more?

Then realizing that all music is simply is creating an emotional logic and reaction through notes, tone, rhythm and arrangement (and technicalites like theory, notation, note strikes style are simply trying to describe or grasp this creation of emotional logic), how well are these technicalities actually defining music?

Let's put it this way. When there is a soundalike created for a commercial (where arrangement and notes are re-arranged to get around paying for recording or publishing rights) but a person can immediately recognize what the music is trying to imitate, but technically it is not that same music.... well then it shows how flimsy those technicalities are in trying to define music. In fact, it shows their lack of ability to define music.

All I'm saying is that if it seems to sound like something to the ear of many listeners, then it IS actually sounding like that. The perception defines what it is. The notes, and other measurements don't actually mean anything in proportion to the perception.

This is probably why some trained musicians are the worst at composing and arranging anything original but great at playing something already marked out and defined technically.

You would think that all trained musicians could simply be given emotional descriptions and then make music that caused that reaction. But that aint true!

The songs both also have a leisurely pace, like a Sunday drive, they both also have the a female voice respond with a fragment of dialog at one moment. There is a warmth there too (with melodic bass) that is not normally part of Prince's brand of music.

Do you hear how Jughead is actually Housequake redone?

As I said, it's the sound of the synths and the short punched chords that make some people think "Take Me With U". And not that many people have said the two lines are the same. I'd venture to guess that maybe 10 people at most have suggested that. But given that those 10 people are Prince fans, I don't discount their perceptions.

"Take Me With U" is my all-time favorite song. It's the first song I learned to play on guitar, and I've probably played it a thousand times. I know every note of that song. I was the Orger that pointed out that, 20 years after he wrote it, Prince tweaked the bridge and changed the Fmaj7 chord in the bridge's second bar to a G/A chord. Whether that makes me biased, or more knowledgable about this song, or both, or neither is for you to decide.

And LOL, no - I do not hear how "Jughead" is "Housequake" redone. But if you do, more power to you!

purplethunder3121 said:

I like the (#7?) remix of this song... The others--meh.

The one with the same bass as Groovy Potential on it ? i like it too !

It's a great trackand has sounds nothing like TMWY. Just a cool rock track. If you like the silly remixes cool, but to me it just makes a nice chill tea taste like sugary koo-aid

highcalonic said:

RodeoSchro said:

ufoclub said:

So you got to ask yourself, if you say it has no relationship to "Take Me With You" than why are so many people saying it harkens back to that string line... and more?

Then realizing that all music is simply is creating an emotional logic and reaction through notes, tone, rhythm and arrangement (and technicalites like theory, notation, note strikes style are simply trying to describe or grasp this creation of emotional logic), how well are these technicalities actually defining music?

Let's put it this way. When there is a soundalike created for a commercial (where arrangement and notes are re-arranged to get around paying for recording or publishing rights) but a person can immediately recognize what the music is trying to imitate, but technically it is not that same music.... well then it shows how flimsy those technicalities are in trying to define music. In fact, it shows their lack of ability to define music.

All I'm saying is that if it seems to sound like something to the ear of many listeners, then it IS actually sounding like that. The perception defines what it is. The notes, and other measurements don't actually mean anything in proportion to the perception.

This is probably why some trained musicians are the worst at composing and arranging anything original but great at playing something already marked out and defined technically.

You would think that all trained musicians could simply be given emotional descriptions and then make music that caused that reaction. But that aint true!

The songs both also have a leisurely pace, like a Sunday drive, they both also have the a female voice respond with a fragment of dialog at one moment. There is a warmth there too (with melodic bass) that is not normally part of Prince's brand of music.

Do you hear how Jughead is actually Housequake redone?

As I said, it's the sound of the synths and the short punched chords that make some people think "Take Me With U". And not that many people have said the two lines are the same. I'd venture to guess that maybe 10 people at most have suggested that. But given that those 10 people are Prince fans, I don't discount their perceptions.

"Take Me With U" is my all-time favorite song. It's the first song I learned to play on guitar, and I've probably played it a thousand times. I know every note of that song. I was the Orger that pointed out that, 20 years after he wrote it, Prince tweaked the bridge and changed the Fmaj7 chord in the bridge's second bar to a G/A chord. Whether that makes me biased, or more knowledgable about this song, or both, or neither is for you to decide.

And LOL, no - I do not hear how "Jughead" is "Housequake" redone. But if you do, more power to you!

I could layer those songs and you'd hear that they have the same structure and also the same triple beat rhythm device. In Housequake it's with the stomping noise, in Jughead its the voices together doing the same thing. I could layer them up as one track and see what happens... maybe a demon would come out.