I've said it before but multi CD box sets are the way to release the remasters

with outtakes.

NO RERECORDINGS.I hope the Warner deal prohibits such blasphemy(read the new xtralovable).

-a 3 Disc Dirty Mind with the remastered album and the full Paris show.

-a beefed up Controversy,outtakes like No Call U and a show

-1999 with Moonbeam levels on a seperate disc and full Triple Threat shows.

-a 7 CD PR,1984,collection of outtakes and shows

-ATWIAD and Parade,outtakes and shows

-all configurations of Sign O the Times.DF and CB.

-Lovesexy and a show,3 CDs

then I'll be happy.

the material is there as we all know.

I am aware that this will not happen.

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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pretty likely,very sad.

warning2all said:

Just because Prince had cartoons done in his various looks doesn't mean the music will be from those eras. "Baltimore" is not from the Phase 2 look. Fans always get their hopes up--this time that Phase 3 & 4 will be filled with "Lovesexy" & "Purple Rain" music. Fans will be lucky if these Phases EVER see the light of day after what's happened with the reception of the First 2 Phases. Getting with Tidal was a big mistake. Not submitting a killer "PR Remaster" was an even bigger mistake. He's screwed up his career. interested in seeing where he goes from here.

the artist who did those portraits did way more than just those 5 on tidal, he did them

for so many of prince's looks throughout the years. it means nothing that those two of

lovesexy and pr era are up on tidal. it's just artwork for the site, like he uses them on

twitter as well.

absolutely 100% certain phases 3 and 4 will not be lovesexy and pr outtakes. come on

people.

how will he ever get distribution for future releases???

luvsexy4all said:

how will he ever get distribution for future releases???

We don't need distribution. Digital downloads are the future and fine by me. Bring on more music!!

funksterr said:

MIRvmn said:

funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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It could be that he's struggling with songwriting these days cuz he is uninspired, he has done so much music that he has simply running out of new ideas. That could explain all the rerecordings.

He used to be inspired by his search for god, search for sex, heartbreak, anger, fun and being surrounded by inspirational band members.

Nowadays he has found god, sex is a sin, heartbreak is a sin, anger is a sin, fun is a sin and his band members are chosen based on their faith and ability to say "yes. Brilliant. Incredible. Fantastic. You should definately release that. Praise Jehova!"

I wonder how much material is in the vault that is Jehova and scripture related? Probably more than anything else in there... He just learned his fans don't take kindly to the preaching so he releases what odds and ends he has that do not relate to his god. I can picture him on a daily basis feeling "touched" and overwhelmed with his faith and hitting the studio. Its probably all that really moves him. Anything else he creates away from his god is Prince-by-numbers or a song he has dusted off from he pre JW days. There's probably tons of killer albums (musically) in the vault related to the scriptures...

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MIRvmn said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

I like Prince doing what he does.

I like him experimenting and doing what he feels is right.

However, I do think that releasing lots of tracks just waters down the experience.

MIRvmn said:

funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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It could be that he's struggling with songwriting these days cuz he is uninspired, he has done so much music that he has simply running out of new ideas. That could explain all the rerecordings.

I think it all comes down to his preoccupation with outsmarting the system. He wants to screw WB out of the music he recorded while signed to them. He thought he was taking all that with him into The Dawn when his deal was up and he would get better terms financialy from somewhere. Only to find they own that shit too. He's been putting the fanbase through hell ever since. Phase 2 is a pretty good album, in many ways, maybe even the best he's come up with since The War with WB started. I don't think it's commercial, he needs a hit or two to go with what he has, and to drop Screwdriver from this set, but it's telling that he only produced his best when he was at a lowpoint. Maybe he will produce an even better record if P2 never sees a proper release.

Sounds complicated.

If he really still records one song a day, he could release a phase

every month on Tidal, with tracks from this century.

The more the merrier, because then I might find one or two songs I like...

I think WB shouldn't make anymore Prince cd's, just let the brand die out

(we know The Gold Experience is hard to find these days),

and burn all the left-over stock,

then wait for Prince's next move.

NorthC said:

MIRvmn said:

funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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It could be that he's struggling with songwriting these days cuz he is uninspired, he has done so much music that he has simply running out of new ideas. That could explain all the rerecordings.

Has this already become "facts", or are you referring to Extraloveable and If I Could Get Ur Attention and not the songs mentioned by Funksterr.

funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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Nonsense and speculation, as usual. Name one other track from the late 70s that Big City resembles. And yes, Ray Charles is dead, but that doesn't negate the point of the line - you understood the reference, didn't you?

MIRvmn said:

funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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It could be that he's struggling with songwriting these days cuz he is uninspired, he has done so much music that he has simply running out of new ideas. That could explain all the rerecordings.

He's been re-recording/updating his stuff since at least 1984, so that's no huge change.

TwiliteKid said:

funksterr said:

Big City, just based on the writing pattern, seems like it's orgins are the late 1970's. I think a lot of recent Prince songs are actually rerecordings of vault tracks with lyric changes and horn arrangements. When I Look At You says Ray Charles can see and Ray died in 2004, so it's orgins are probably at least before that. 2Y2D clearly as undergone lyric changes and the horns just seem tacked on later.

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Nonsense and speculation, as usual. Name one other track from the late 70s that Big City resembles. And yes, Ray Charles is dead, but that doesn't negate the point of the line - you understood the reference, didn't you?

You are just attacking me because you are bitter over stuff that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Big City clearly has some stuff in it we haven't hear from Prince since the first Time album in 1981. Bass and lyrics. The intro is definitely 1970's soul. I think he wrote parts of this on a synthesizer in the late 70's, early 80's and then updated the track with real horns, lyric changes and new vocals in 2012 or whatever. Not unreasonable given how many other known vault tracks have recently undergone Prince's version of the George Lucas Star Wars Special Edition treatment.

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

TwiliteKid said:

Nonsense and speculation, as usual. Name one other track from the late 70s that Big City resembles. And yes, Ray Charles is dead, but that doesn't negate the point of the line - you understood the reference, didn't you?

You are just attacking me because you are bitter over stuff that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Big City clearly has some stuff in it we haven't hear from Prince since the first Time album in 1981. Bass and lyrics. The intro is definitely 1970's soul. I think he wrote parts of this on a synthesizer in the late 70's, early 80's and then updated the track with real horns, lyric changes and new vocals in 2012 or whatever. Not unreasonable given how many other known vault tracks have recently undergone Prince's version of the George Lucas Star Wars Special Edition treatment.

Strongly disagreeing does not equal an attack. Feeling a tad sensitive today, are we? Please fill me in on what I'm so bitter about when you have the chance.

Setting aside the fact that you're changing your tune here, my point is that you're making HUGE leaps - foisting off your half-backed theories without any evidence to back them up - to conclude that this material is old. It's true that Prince has taken to re-recording things from the vault in recent years, but that doesn't mean that EVERYTHING he's releasing is based on older tracks.

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TwiliteKid said:

funksterr said:

You are just attacking me because you are bitter over stuff that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Big City clearly has some stuff in it we haven't hear from Prince since the first Time album in 1981. Bass and lyrics. The intro is definitely 1970's soul. I think he wrote parts of this on a synthesizer in the late 70's, early 80's and then updated the track with real horns, lyric changes and new vocals in 2012 or whatever. Not unreasonable given how many other known vault tracks have recently undergone Prince's version of the George Lucas Star Wars Special Edition treatment.

Strongly disagreeing does not equal an attack. Feeling a tad sensitive today, are we? Please fill me in on what I'm so bitter about when you have the chance.

Setting aside the fact that you're changing your tune here, my point is that you're making HUGE leaps - foisting off your half-backed theories without any evidence to back them up - to conclude that this material is old. It's true that Prince has taken to re-recording things from the vault in recent years, but that doesn't mean that EVERYTHING he's releasing is based on older tracks.

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I haven't changed anything. You are just aggressively typing personal attacks for whatever your own reasons are. You are out of control, lol. 'EVERYTHING ISN"T OLD!!' Err... I never said it was. So something's got you turnt! You sound upset about the possibility that these tracks are old, but that seems to be the point of the Phase albums: to rework and the vault material in a way Prince can better monetize.

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

TwiliteKid said:

Strongly disagreeing does not equal an attack. Feeling a tad sensitive today, are we? Please fill me in on what I'm so bitter about when you have the chance.

Setting aside the fact that you're changing your tune here, my point is that you're making HUGE leaps - foisting off your half-backed theories without any evidence to back them up - to conclude that this material is old. It's true that Prince has taken to re-recording things from the vault in recent years, but that doesn't mean that EVERYTHING he's releasing is based on older tracks.

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I haven't changed anything. You are just aggressively typing personal attacks for whatever your own reasons are. You are out of control, lol. 'EVERYTHING ISN"T OLD!!' Err... I never said it was. So something's got you turnt! You sound upset about the possibility that these tracks are old, but that seems to be the point of the Phase albums: to rework and the vault material in a way Prince can better monetize.

Again you claim I'm attacking you, when I haven't insulted you at all. If you can't handle people critiquing your ideas, maybe you shouldn't be posting them publically. I'm not upset about anything (but I'm sure you'll tell me I am, just like I'm supposedly "bitter", "out of control", and "turnt" - great debate gambit, there) - I simply want you to back up your claims.

For the record: You HAVE changed your tune about "Big City": You initially said it dated from the late 70s, then in your next post that became the early 80s, and you haven't offered anything conclusive in either instance.

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TwiliteKid said:

funksterr said:

I haven't changed anything. You are just aggressively typing personal attacks for whatever your own reasons are. You are out of control, lol. 'EVERYTHING ISN"T OLD!!' Err... I never said it was. So something's got you turnt! You sound upset about the possibility that these tracks are old, but that seems to be the point of the Phase albums: to rework and the vault material in a way Prince can better monetize.

Again you claim I'm attacking you, when I haven't insulted you at all. If you can't handle people critiquing your ideas, maybe you shouldn't be posting them publically. I'm not upset about anything (but I'm sure you'll tell me I am, just like I'm supposedly "bitter", "out of control", and "turnt" - great debate gambit, there) - I simply want you to back up your claims.

For the record: You HAVE changed your tune about "Big City": You initially said it dated from the late 70s, then in your next post that became the early 80s, and you haven't offered anything conclusive in either instance.

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I guess the problem here, for you anyway, is that you assumed a few brief sentences I wrote about several songs represented the totality of my opinion about a single one of them. I guess you also took that as an invitation to argue against things I never said and throw insults (apparantley you call them critiques, lol!) around. Don't expect me to take you seriously, after that.

funksterr said: