Angelsoncrack said:

databank said:

Reminds me of that orger who wrote the other day that "Prince needs to take drums lessons"

Such statements are so ridiculously absurd that they can't be anything but trolling and therefore they don't belong on this message board.

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They were probably just suggesting he has areas to improve on and could do so from a Mentor. Prince isn't bad at drums but it isn't his best instrument. I mean, he might be able to play his stuff but would he be able to play say- a Rush track on drums?? Even though that isn't his genre it's still worth thinking about.

No, in context it was just being mean for the sake of being mean. And even if you were right, then people should say what the mean, not make extravagant statements that mean something else then be like "no but in fact I meant..."

Prince plays the drums on most of his records. He certainly isn't a drummer the caliber of the greatest drummers in the history of pop and jazz, but there's no debate about his capacity to play the drums.

Out of topic though, I fear I've contributed to derail the thread and that wasn't my purpose. If anyone wishes to debate me being a troll or whatever furthermore u can orgnote me

databank said:

KingSausage said:

And I don't know whether that's mixing or production. Shit, I know nothing about how to record an album. Put me in a recording studio and I'd probably try to fart into the microphones or sit down at the console and pretend I was flying a Star Destroyer. Pew pew pew!

It could be a hit.

KingSausage said:

dodger said:

I love that this forum is filled with the hottest producers, mastering engineers, sound designers, composers, musicians, voice coaches, vocal arrangers and vocal producers to so accurately detail the flaws in the software that was used or can pinpoint the pinch points in the sonic design of a song. You guys are so well known and highly regarded for the work you've done and it a pleasure to read your opinions it opens the eyes and ears of the untrained listener.

Polo1026 said:

I love that this forum is filled with the hottest producers, mastering engineers, sound designers, composers, musicians, voice coaches, vocal arrangers and vocal producers to so accurately detail the flaws in the software that was used or can pinpoint the pinch points in the sonic design of a song. You guys are so well known and highly regarded for the work you've done and it a pleasure to read your opinions it opens the eyes and ears of the untrained listener.

Seems like we have a fan for Star Destroyers lasers.
Or maybe he's just having a Breakdown (pew! pew!).

bonatoc said:

Actually, the murky sound of 1999 was intentional. It sounds way better on an analog source. Matter of fact, listening to Prince's work in correct conditions implies to have an analog sound chain, from beginning to end. In the eighties, electronic components were taken seriously, and it was miniaturization that killed the sound quality in the end. A microscopic transistor cannot perform the same electrical process than a solid state amplifier weighing several kilograms.

MP3 is of course to blame, it perverted everyone's ears, included mine. The irony is that most consoles and sound processors are working on incredible standards, 192 kHz and 24 bit, allowing for incredible dynamic ranges, and in the end everything gets butchered in 256k rates.

The most interesting palette is to be found on "Groovy Potential". It does not scream innovation, but at least it's an interesting balance, that manages to sound modern while still preserving a natural sound on drums, horns and guitars. I could do without the stupid auto-tuned voice-over-the-phone gimmick.

I would not say it's badly mixed. It's dully produced. The sound palette offers nothing we haven't heard before. The radical production choices found on Parade are long gone.

Listening to Prince requires to be an audiophile, true. Before V10LETBLUES spits one more time on AOA, he'd better question his audio chain, and/or the source of his audio files.

The only distorsion I hear on the whole album is to be found on the 2 last choruses of "The Breakdown", and they're intentional, a way to imply the suffering.
Everything else is impeccable, and manages to be compressed while sounding dynamic, "Time" being the perfect example.

I'm impressed with your insight even from the following posts as well. Wish you could enlighten me. "Xtraloveable" in Phase Two (it is Apple Lossless file from the official flac), was the point I started doubting both the mix and my own ears like, isn't this too muffled and stressd in bass sound? Usual Sennheiser Sports earphones and iPhone's Bass Reducer didn't solve the trouble at all. Then I've found this very inconvenient but great app called SonicMax Pro and I'm feeling a little better. Are you aware of the app and what they are being about? Anyways, when I'm bound to my Mac - Flac files at best - iTunes - iPhone - possible better but not too extravagant speakers and phones, is there any suggestions or recommendations? Meanwhile, I'm gonna search into my ears since I'm almost same age with you, though.

TrevorAyer said:

bonatoc said:

Uh, that's not fair.
I'm sure databank can defend himself, but the work he's doing on his website (acessible in his signature) clearly signifies he's no troll at all.

sure its fair .. databank likes to go around putting his little nutso emoticon on every post he doesn't like and often says nothing to the topic at hand .. just because he cuts and pastes p's release schedule doesn't negate his general douchery about who can say what and who should be mocked and insulted based upon his opinion

funksterr said:

TrevorAyer said:

sure its fair .. databank likes to go around putting his little nutso emoticon on every post he doesn't like and often says nothing to the topic at hand .. just because he cuts and pastes p's release schedule doesn't negate his general douchery about who can say what and who should be mocked and insulted based upon his opinion

u mean this emoticon

There is clipping here and there especially when things are recorded too loud. Breakdown and the end of Aint No Turnin Around especially..like some treble is missing. The music is nice but just a bit over the top when mastered for our hearing, im sure in the studio ists different

KingSausage said:

Someone above said Prince's recent stuff sounds thin and tinny. I think that's often the case. Violet started a thread about that a few months ago and people jumped down her throat. I have nice headphones. A lot of Prince's new shit is a little thin and tinny, in my opinion, especially compared to other new music. And these are songs where I think a nice, thick sound would make them even better.

Free Yourself, Breakfast Can Wait and Baltimore are some thick sounding songs...in comparison to Art Official Cage, Groovy Potential and Like A Mack for example. Sounds like different programs were used.

paisleypark4 said:

KingSausage said:

Someone above said Prince's recent stuff sounds thin and tinny. I think that's often the case. Violet started a thread about that a few months ago and people jumped down her throat. I have nice headphones. A lot of Prince's new shit is a little thin and tinny, in my opinion, especially compared to other new music. And these are songs where I think a nice, thick sound would make them even better.

Free Yourself, Breakfast Can Wait and Baltimore are some thick sounding songs...in comparison to Art Official Cage, Groovy Potential and Like A Mack for example. Sounds like different programs were used.

VIOLET gonna eat u up on that one

databank said:

Angelsoncrack said:

databank said: They were probably just suggesting he has areas to improve on and could do so from a Mentor. Prince isn't bad at drums but it isn't his best instrument. I mean, he might be able to play his stuff but would he be able to play say- a Rush track on drums?? Even though that isn't his genre it's still worth thinking about.

No, in context it was just being mean for the sake of being mean. And even if you were right, then people should say what the mean, not make extravagant statements that mean something else then be like "no but in fact I meant..."

Prince plays the drums on most of his records. He certainly isn't a drummer the caliber of the greatest drummers in the history of pop and jazz, but there's no debate about his capacity to play the drums.

Out of topic though, I fear I've contributed to derail the thread and that wasn't my purpose. If anyone wishes to debate me being a troll or whatever furthermore u can orgnote me

ur no troll...

but u do use this a lil 2 much

This thread is getting derailed. Please can we get back to using Prince's mixing desk to pilot a Star Destroyer? Pew pew pew!