Reply #150 posted 12/23/15 5:06am
Pentacle |
Funkyalien said:
Be quiet around here. I love it just like this.
Yes, that is probably why he sounds so rambling. 'Cause he only has the walls to share
his thoughts with.
And still the constant use of 'we', which reminds me of people in the nuthouse
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Reply #151 posted 12/23/15 5:17am
IstenSzek |
inspireof said:
IstenSzek said:
i'm curious now. did this bandmember go into prince's wardrobe and just take stuff which
he/she then sold to hard rock cafe?
or is it more like they went ahead and sold stuff they already had. like mayte selling his clothes that she still had kicking about etc.
because if they stole from him, i can see why he would be miffed. if they didn't and just sold 'their' prince items, it's kinda sad that he makes such a fuss.
either way, he comes across as pretty unpleasant to me, reading this. i mean, ewww
.
Ok so your friends come over and they see a really cool jacket in your closet... They're like oh wow I love this jacket can I have it please?... You give it to them as a FRIEND and next thing U know its on display in some nasty fastfood chain restaurant and your friend made $$$ selling your gift... So that is ok because they didn't steal it from you right?
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if they sell my jacket to a 'nasty fastfood chain restaurant' (that millions of people all over the world seem to love and tons of artists are happy to have their stuff on the walls) 10 years after i gave it to them, when they are having problems paying their bills or just want some extra cash, and whilst i am a multi millionair who never looks back at his past, sure i would not mind at all.
i think i would look like a bit of an asshole if i went on to mention the whole matter in an interview
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Reply #152 posted 12/23/15 5:17am
iZsaZsa |
"EBONY: Will you be remastering the catalog?
Prince: Hopefully, yeah. A new Greatest Hits. Because I never had anything to do with [The Hits/The B-Sides]. But put great liner notes in it to explain what record came from what and why."
Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway. What? |
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Reply #153 posted 12/23/15 5:22am
Empress |
The article is gone from the site which is likely just as well. I guess I'll just stay clear of this bullshit and hope for some re-mastering at some point. I won't be holding my breath though. And, I agree with Soulalive, I would not want to hang around with Prince for more than 5 mins. He nonsense talk would drive me nuts. He's a master musician, but lacks in other areas. |
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Reply #154 posted 12/23/15 5:25am
databank
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iZsaZsa said:
"EBONY: Will you be remastering the catalog? Prince: Hopefully, yeah. A new Greatest Hits. Because I never had anything to do with [The Hits/The B-Sides]. But put great liner notes in it to explain what record came from what and why." Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.
Prince has lied before, and saying "most of what people said about me is wrong" is just a nice way of blurring the lines. From now on everything that's been or will be said about him should therefore be assumed wrong? No. Maybe TBO was for Susannah, maybe it wasn't. I don't necessarily take P's word for it, but now we know he dismissed that particular info. All I know for sure is P never liked other people talking about him, his music, life and career, and I can understand that but that's the ransom of success when u're a musician. Just because he says that most of the TONS of things former associates said is false doesn't mean it is. Some stuff has to be false or approximative, but I'm pretty sure a lot is true, or at least as true as people's memories are (there are always 2 sides to any story after all). |
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Reply #155 posted 12/23/15 5:35am
Pentacle |
iZsaZsa said:
Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.
You mean you'll believe the man who says he doesn't like U2, but has Bono perform with him
and rips off I Will Follow for Guitar?
The man who signs off on press releases about vault tracks for WB and Tidal and then fails to deliver? Stop the Prince Apologists ™ |
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Reply #156 posted 12/23/15 5:43am
iZsaZsa |
databank said:
iZsaZsa said: "EBONY: Will you be remastering the catalog? Prince: Hopefully, yeah. A new Greatest Hits. Because I never had anything to do with [The Hits/The B-Sides]. But put great liner notes in it to explain what record came from what and why." Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.
Prince has lied before, and saying "most of what people said about me is wrong" is just a nice way of blurring the lines. From now on everything that's been or will be said about him should therefore be assumed wrong? No. Maybe TBO was for Susannah, maybe it wasn't. I don't necessarily take P's word for it, but now we know he dismissed that particular info. All I know for sure is P never liked other people talking about him, his music, life and career, and I can understand that but that's the ransom of success when u're a musician. Just because he says that most of the TONS of things former associates said is false doesn't mean it is. Some stuff has to be false or approximative, but I'm pretty sure a lot is true, or at least as true as people's memories are (there are always 2 sides to any story after all). To use your example; Prince said the song, The Beautiful Ones, was written for the characters (or Apollonia) in the movie, then named Vanity as "the lost one" from his real life circumstances. Susannah's fans can cry about it not being her song, but just not to me. What? |
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Reply #157 posted 12/23/15 5:44am
NouveauDance |
All I got from this interview was a lot of pie in the sky and his usual over-defensive bravo but with an unguarded bitterness spiking almost every answer - is this why it was removed or maybe the religious gobbledegook?
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Hit N Run sounds like today. Tidal is sinking money into it, and they need it.
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Reply #158 posted 12/23/15 5:46am
iZsaZsa |
Pentacle said:
iZsaZsa said: Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.
You mean you'll believe the man who says he doesn't like U2, but has Bono perform with him
and rips off I Will Follow for Guitar?
The man who signs off on press releases about vault tracks for WB and Tidal and then fails to deliver? I never heard him say he doesn't like U2. I can't say. And which vault tracks are you talking about? What? |
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Reply #159 posted 12/23/15 5:49am
IstenSzek |
also, that's what all the fans are waiting for with regards to remasters, a new greatest hits.
right?
it would be infuriating if it wasn't so funny.
when we do get remasters we'll get a 2 or 3cd greatest hits remastered
oh and with extensive liner notes so prince can set the record straight since he's so hurt and done wrong about the stories going round about his songs and their inspiration.
what, the greatest hits remastered package didn't sell 5 million copies? see, i told you the
real fans don't want remasters. i'll never remaster my albums now.
etc etc.
Kafka couldn't have written it better
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Reply #160 posted 12/23/15 5:56am
djThunderfunk
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I find this a day late and the article is removed... Arghhh! Sounds like it was an interesting read. Wonder why it was removed? Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. |
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Reply #161 posted 12/23/15 6:06am
tollyc |
BartVanHemelen said: This interview shows what a sad man Prince has become. Such delusions, utterly believing his own bullshit. I don't think I have ever agreed with Bart on anything but his statement above is so truth. Prince comes off as so petty in this article. It's like hey Prince...we've all grown up, you can to. You are a human being and you write music based upon real life. Some times he believes his own fantasy and mythology. I wish he would just feel real emotions, have a kid or two, change a diaper and grow as a human being. Wrote about that! |
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Reply #162 posted 12/23/15 6:06am
Pentacle |
iZsaZsa said:
Pentacle said:
You mean you'll believe the man who says he doesn't like U2, but has Bono perform with him
and rips off I Will Follow for Guitar?
The man who signs off on press releases about vault tracks for WB and Tidal and then fails to deliver?
I never heard him say he doesn't like U2. I can't say. And which vault tracks are you talking about?
I like you too/u2. Just/but not the band.
You can find the press releases on-line/on this site.
I also think that removing all you tweets shortly after posting them, is a bit dodgy.
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Reply #164 posted 12/23/15 6:06am
paulludvig |
databank said:
iZsaZsa said:
"EBONY: Will you be remastering the catalog? Prince: Hopefully, yeah. A new Greatest Hits. Because I never had anything to do with [The Hits/The B-Sides]. But put great liner notes in it to explain what record came from what and why." Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.
Prince has lied before, and saying "most of what people said about me is wrong" is just a nice way of blurring the lines. From now on everything that's been or will be said about him should therefore be assumed wrong? No. Maybe TBO was for Susannah, maybe it wasn't. I don't necessarily take P's word for it, but now we know he dismissed that particular info. All I know for sure is P never liked other people talking about him, his music, life and career, and I can understand that but that's the ransom of success when u're a musician. Just because he says that most of the TONS of things former associates said is false doesn't mean it is. Some stuff has to be false or approximative, but I'm pretty sure a lot is true, or at least as true as people's memories are (there are always 2 sides to any story after all).
He makes a good point though. It makes sense that it was written for a particular scene in the movie. Just (re)watch the movie and you will see that he's right. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #165 posted 12/23/15 6:09am
paulludvig |
Pentacle said:
iZsaZsa said:
Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.
You mean you'll believe the man who says he doesn't like U2, but has Bono perform with him
and rips off I Will Follow for Guitar?
The man who signs off on press releases about vault tracks for WB and Tidal and then fails to deliver?
That's just business. You don't have to like someone to perform with them. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #166 posted 12/23/15 6:09am
tollyc |
SchlomoThaHomo said:
feeluupp said:
What he said about Susan Rogers was pretty brash... Has their relationship been strained for a while, I thought she left at a mutual repsect?
"There was one engineer who said that their sole purpose in life was to get the stuff out of the vault, and get it copied so it wasn’t lost to the world. I’m trying to figure out if that’s illegal. Should I fear for my safety that you might need some medical attention? You want to come up in my vault and you feel like that belongs to you and that’s your purpose? You better find something to do. That’s scary."
I don't think she said that. Her purpose was to get everything that was laying around and unorganized, and put it one place, effectively creating "The Vault."
Exactly. In theory, she screed more about his music and legacy back then than he did. Instead of ripping her, he should be thanking her. I know a lot of fans on this org would have moved on from prince save for that occasional moment of brilliance that comes our way in the form of an unreleased gem. |
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Reply #167 posted 12/23/15 6:13am
RobotDevil |
TheBoneRanger said:
I bet this interview was covertly recorded because it appears as if it was quoted verbatim. Even with taking notes I don’t think it would be possible to get this level of detail. That might be why it was yanked.....Prince knows it was recorded and that violated the terms of the interview.
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I was thinking this exact same thought.
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Reply #168 posted 12/23/15 6:14am
fabriziovenera ndi |
BartVanHemelen said:
Of course, the set sold disappointingly because Prince did no serious promo. It's baffling how such a fantastic set -- three CDs for the price of two and one of those CDs being a collection of B-Sides most of which were vinyl only, fantastic liner notes, at least one stunning previously unreleased track -- sold so little, whereas other artists have collections that are million sellers.
Are you joking? The Hits/The B side is terribile. Bad mixing, bad tracklist, bad fade-out for long tracks.
No Alexia de Paris, no Love or $... bah. |
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Reply #169 posted 12/23/15 6:16am
paulludvig |
I quite like this interview and don't think Prince sounds bitter. He gives props to Morris Day, Eric Leeds, Dr Fink (and Josh ). He admits he finds it hard to trust people (that's what the story about the coat is about, not money). That comes with the territory when you're a celebrity. He doesn't like people psychoanalysing him and telling false stories about him (who would?). He's genuinely into music and enjoys creating and playing music with other people. He rightly thinks he has something to teach in this regard.
[Edited 12/23/15 7:20am] [Edited 12/23/15 16:50pm] The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #170 posted 12/23/15 6:22am
Pentacle |
tollyc said:
, have a kid or two,
This statement is a bit unfortunate, but I can only agree with the gist of it.
I'm looking forward to the new Greatest Hits, and the religious reinterpretation of all his lyrics. 'Godhead', 'Do Unto Others, Baby', 'Soft And Wet Head Full Of Wounds'.
"Now that Obama is president I can finally tell you that when I wrote 'Jack U Off' I was thinking
about the struggle of my people in the hood, and how that relates to verses 3 and 4 of Deuteronomy
chapter 6."
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Reply #171 posted 12/23/15 6:26am
paulludvig |
tollyc said:
BartVanHemelen said:
This interview shows what a sad man Prince has become. Such delusions, utterly believing his own bullshit.
I don't think I have ever agreed with Bart on anything but his statement above is so truth. Prince comes off as so petty in this article. It's like hey Prince...we've all grown up, you can to. You are a human being and you write music based upon real life. Some times he believes his own fantasy and mythology. I wish he would just feel real emotions, have a kid or two, change a diaper and grow as a human being. Wrote about that!
What an awful thing to say. He had two kids and lost them both. The wooh is on the one! |
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Reply #172 posted 12/23/15 6:33am
databank
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iZsaZsa said:
databank said:
Prince has lied before, and saying "most of what people said about me is wrong" is just a nice way of blurring the lines. From now on everything that's been or will be said about him should therefore be assumed wrong? No. Maybe TBO was for Susannah, maybe it wasn't. I don't necessarily take P's word for it, but now we know he dismissed that particular info. All I know for sure is P never liked other people talking about him, his music, life and career, and I can understand that but that's the ransom of success when u're a musician. Just because he says that most of the TONS of things former associates said is false doesn't mean it is. Some stuff has to be false or approximative, but I'm pretty sure a lot is true, or at least as true as people's memories are (there are always 2 sides to any story after all).
To use your example; Prince said the song, The Beautiful Ones, was written for the characters (or Apollonia) in the movie, then named Vanity as "the lost one" from his real life circumstances. Susannah's fans can cry about it not being her song, but just not to me.
I have no preference for the Susannah theory. P's explaination makes perfect sense. Just saying now we have 2 contradictory statements. If I was to write abook about P or an article about the making of PR, I'd feel I'd have to report both testimonies. [Edited 12/23/15 6:34am] |
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Reply #173 posted 12/23/15 6:35am
databank
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paulludvig said:
databank said:
Prince has lied before, and saying "most of what people said about me is wrong" is just a nice way of blurring the lines. From now on everything that's been or will be said about him should therefore be assumed wrong? No. Maybe TBO was for Susannah, maybe it wasn't. I don't necessarily take P's word for it, but now we know he dismissed that particular info. All I know for sure is P never liked other people talking about him, his music, life and career, and I can understand that but that's the ransom of success when u're a musician. Just because he says that most of the TONS of things former associates said is false doesn't mean it is. Some stuff has to be false or approximative, but I'm pretty sure a lot is true, or at least as true as people's memories are (there are always 2 sides to any story after all).
He makes a good point though. It makes sense that it was written for a particular scene in the movie. Just (re)watch the movie and you will see that he's right.
See my reply above |
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Reply #174 posted 12/23/15 6:40am
NorthC |
paulludvig said:
tollyc said: BartVanHemelen said:
This interview shows what a sad man Prince has become. Such delusions, utterly believing his own bullshit.
I don't think I have ever agreed with Bart on anything but his statement above is so truth. Prince comes off as so petty in this article. It's like hey Prince...we've all grown up, you can to. You are a human being and you write music based upon real life. Some times he believes his own fantasy and mythology. I wish he would just feel real emotions, have a kid or two, change a diaper and grow as a human being. Wrote about that!
What an awful thing to say. He had two kids and lost them both. Two? I only know of one. |
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Reply #175 posted 12/23/15 6:42am
jasopig
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paulludvig said:
tollyc said:
BartVanHemelen said: I don't think I have ever agreed with Bart on anything but his statement above is so truth. Prince comes off as so petty in this article. It's like hey Prince...we've all grown up, you can to. You are a human being and you write music based upon real life. Some times he believes his own fantasy and mythology. I wish he would just feel real emotions, have a kid or two, change a diaper and grow as a human being. Wrote about that!
What an awful thing to say. He had two kids and lost them both.
Anybody who says about/to Prince, "just feel real emotions" may have listened to his music, but they have not yet heard it. Not that they would care, but I feel a bit sorry for Bart and Ludvig, honestly. Just a bit. [Edited 12/23/15 6:44am] |
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Reply #176 posted 12/23/15 6:44am
Pentacle |
NorthC said:
paulludvig said:
What an awful thing to say. He had two kids and lost them both.
Two? I only know of one.
No, Mayte revealed they lost a second child.
But let's leave the children out of it, otherwise the thread will emotionally derail
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Reply #177 posted 12/23/15 6:44am
jasopig
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NorthC said:
paulludvig said:
What an awful thing to say. He had two kids and lost them both.
Two? I only know of one.
One was actually born, the other was a miscarriage. |
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Reply #178 posted 12/23/15 6:46am
NorthC |
Pentacle said:
NorthC said: paulludvig said:
What an awful thing to say. He had two kids and lost them both.
Two? I only know of one.
No, Mayte revealed they lost a second child.
But let's leave the children out of it, otherwise the thread will emotionally derail
pretty quickly.... Oh, I didn't know that. |
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Reply #179 posted 12/23/15 6:51am
databank
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tollyc said:
BartVanHemelen said:
This interview shows what a sad man Prince has become. Such delusions, utterly believing his own bullshit.
I don't think I have ever agreed with Bart on anything but his statement above is so truth. Prince comes off as so petty in this article. It's like hey Prince...we've all grown up, you can to. You are a human being and you write music based upon real life. Some times he believes his own fantasy and mythology. I wish he would just feel real emotions, have a kid or two, change a diaper and grow as a human being. Wrote about that!
As a proud member of the childfree community, I find this comment pretty offensive. As if having children was a necessary step in having real emotions and growing as a human being
There's more to life than kids, and not everyone is made for having them. |
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