ludwig said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

This innerview is a COMPLETE MaStErPiEcE!!!!!!

So Prince doesn't like this interview and you love it. How do you feel now?

It's not that Prince "doesn't like" the interview, it's more about people reacting to it with more speculation and psychoanalysis.

And reading this thread, he has every reason to shut up and continue his old policy. He has some of the most entitled fans around, he can't sneeze without starting a torrent of ill-wishing, gimme-already rancour.

funksterr said:

babynoz said:

Me too...


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Psychic?? Even the guy who wrote the article has already accused Prince of lying ('Prince thought the conversation was off the record'). Y'all may as well stand down on this one.

Who is y'all?

How comes you didn't predict that Prince was going to have the article pulled? Some psychic you are.

As Johnny Carson, (aka, Carnac the great) would say...sim-sala-bim.

Polo1026 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh please, go look up the facts: WBR wanted to do a greatest hits for years and Prince had been getting in the way over and over again. They finally paid him several millions to get the fuck out of the way so they could get it done.

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Of course, the set sold disappointingly because Prince did no serious promo. It's baffling how such a fantastic set -- three CDs for the price of two and one of those CDs being a collection of B-Sides most of which were vinyl only, fantastic liner notes, at least one stunning previously unreleased track -- sold so little, whereas other artists have collections that are million sellers.

Where are these facts posted? Links please!

Facts... Just check RIAA... Each sold 1 million each... Pretty low seller for a HITS package considering Madonna and MJ greatrest hits sold almost 30 million each.

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

All I know is that I'm glad he didn't let Puffy anywhere near "I Hate U!"

pnv said:

funksterr said:

With regards to The Beautiful Ones...It's hard to admit a woman had yo azz sprung after the breakup and whatnot. Prince tried to say the song was about nobody paticular, but he's clearly in his feelings on that track. We've heard what Prince sounds like when he tries to write from his head, not his heart and it ain't too good so... Vanity or Susannah (more than likely it's about both), it was definitely real.

About both, really? Prince himself says that BO was about a certain scene from the movie and Vanity!!! I dee why he doesnt like interviews!!! People are always turning schitt around.....

Exactly he knows that some of those people think they know him like an old (ex) friend, that they build elaborate stories about him then treat this speculation as fact. If you try to correct them, they think you're lying.

And that's about a musician they haven't liked in ages. No wonder celebrities have bodyguards.

laurarichardson said:

xpertluva said:

All I know is that I'm glad he didn't let Puffy anywhere near "I Hate U!"

I feel the same way.

but you know what's funny? Around that time (mid-90s),I heard that Prince was planning to do something with Puffy and Biggie.It was reported in Black Beat magazine.I wonder if they referring to the remix,or something bigger? In any case,I'm glad it didn't happen.

pnv said:

laurarichardson said:

--- He is calling her out for lying and maybe for using an old relationship for PR. Maybe he was just tired of it. I get tired of people acting as if they know for a fact that Melvoins have wings coming out of their backsides.

Thank you, I would be upset too if I was Prince. She has a lot of nerve. He's very passionate about his music. She has no right claiming " yeah this song and this song and that song was written for me!!! She just wasnt that damn important.

"she just wasn't that important"?? Uh,you do realize that she was his fiancee at that time? He was planning to marry her,so I'd say she was somewhat important in his life back then,lol.

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SoulAlive said:

In typical prince.org fashion: can we even discuss this interview now it has been vaporised?

Clearly the text was not worthy in the eyes of mr. Prince.

So the text did not happen, you did not read thoise infos and thus you should not discuss these.

Please confirm.

databank said:

Bluu said:

Databank, where'd you find the interview on Google? I'm searching but still can't locate it.

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Google "google cache" then open the first link then paste the link of the Ebony page in the URL box. U'll have to do it again for pages 2 and 3.

Fantastic! Found the full article--all three pages. Many thanks 2 u and jaawwnn!

pnv said:

SoulAlive said:

"she just wasn't that important"?? Uh,you do realize that she was his fiancee at that time? He was planning to marry her,so I'd say she was somewhat important in his life back then,lol.

Who said he was gonna marry her. More speculation followed by tabloid rumours come on really susannah? You better watch out Prince a do another interview just. To clear that statement up!!!

Their engagement has been reported by many sources,including Susannah herself

I'm apparently not reading in this interview what many on this thread seem to be reading in this interview. One thing to keep in mind is that we weren't there. We didn't hear the tone of the conversation, the vocal inflections, the vibe of the moment. We can only read the words that were said, and as such, given that we don't know the vibe of that moment, we interpret it the way we want to interpret it. We put our own spin on those words and read something into it that isn't there. And there are a lot of people on the org that like to diss on Prince and that's evident in this thread. The man has released a lot of music over the years, some brilliant master pieces that will continue to be enjoyed for many years to come, some misses (and that's okay), and yet he gets no respect from his so-called fan base. I don't know, maybe I'm just not reading the interview in the right tone, but I don't see him being bitter at all. To me, the man was just talking about things as they came up with someone he thought he could trust to keep it off the record and he was just having a normal moment with someone - something that we all have with friends from time to time - and then it was published, making what was a private conversation, a public spectacle (and only a spectacle because people will read into it what they want to read into it). Let the man have a normal moment in his life without his fans making it a big deal and turning it into something it's not.

prittypriss said:

I'm apparently not reading in this interview what many on this thread seem to be reading in this interview. One thing to keep in mind is that we weren't there. We didn't hear the tone of the conversation, the vocal inflections, the vibe of the moment. We can only read the words that were said, and as such, given that we don't know the vibe of that moment, we interpret it the way we want to interpret it. We put our own spin on those words and read something into it that isn't there. And there are a lot of people on the org that like to diss on Prince and that's evident in this thread. The man has released a lot of music over the years, some brilliant master pieces that will continue to be enjoyed for many years to come, some misses (and that's okay), and yet he gets no respect from his so-called fan base. I don't know, maybe I'm just not reading the interview in the right tone, but I don't see him being bitter at all. To me, the man was just talking about things as they came up with someone he thought he could trust to keep it off the record and he was just having a normal moment with someone - something that we all have with friends from time to time - and then it was published, making what was a private conversation, a public spectacle (and only a spectacle because people will read into it what they want to read into it). Let the man have a normal moment in his life without his fans making it a big deal and turning it into something it's not.

co-sign...

This was a great interview. It's too bad, if it's true that Prince's team requested the piece be removed from Ebony, because it gives a nice glimpse into his thinking and insights on creating music. To me, he came off as rather gracious actually, acknowleding the boundaries of a former bandmember's natural talents, but always making sure to recognize their artistic strengths as well. His responses were IMO polite, and measured, garnished with a touch of humor.

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I alway enjoy reading direct quotes by Prince. He makes way more sense than most people give him credit for. Whether you share his ideas on religion and God/Jehovah or not, I find there is a kind of logic to his thoughts on those subjects (and I have no religious affiliation). The way he uses language is unique to the point of distinction, which I greatly admire with him, but this does tend to confuse many readers (including fans), leading to widespread misinterpretation. Not that I understand him 100% of the time, but if you focus long enough on what he's saying and how he's saying it, the meaning eventually materializes.

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He was refreshingly open and talkative! Not the usual more-cryptic language--this was a bit more grounded. Reading most of the comments in the thread, I realize there are a number of folks here who are put off by his perceived eccentricities; for me though, I thought the article went a long way in humanizing him in the public eye.

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Personally, I think the interview should have remained publicized; it was an effective piece (if provocative to some) but he is entitled to his decision. If speculation voiced by a few here on the Org is correct, that the interview was recorded without his permission (I think they are on to something there) then Prince had every right to pull it.

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When a famous person does an interview,nothing should be "off the record" Prince apparently wants an interview to contain some things he says,but not everything...he's cherry-picking what he wants people to read,lol.That's ridiculous.Why even do an interview if you you're gonna have crazy restrictions?

Bluu said:

This was a great interview.

How old are you and some of the others who read this as some kind of 'feel good' interview?
I don't mean to sound insulting, but it is beyond my comprehension.

As for the usual Prince apologists: the fact he pulled the interview says enough.

Thank God for people like Prince who aren't afraid to be themselves and express themselves the way they want to even though a few people on Prince.org think he's a douchebag. Hilarious.

SoulAlive said:

pnv said:

She just wasnt that damn important.

"she just wasn't that important"?? Uh,you do realize that she was his fiancee at that time? He was planning to marry her,so I'd say she was somewhat important in his life back then,lol.

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No, no, pnv is right: even though she was his fiancee, Prince still cheated on her - so he obviously didn't consider her very important either.

can someone give me a link that works to the interview? i just cant find it. ty.

Some of yall need to seriously stop making excuses for Prince and his foolishness. Its sad and pathetic. The crap this man was ranting about didn't make any sense especially when he rambled about Tidal. Prince is an asshole, period.. im sorry but he is! The thing I don't get is why some of ya'll are so outrage by his antics? I thought this was common knowledge. Prince is a musical genius and a rare talent but........Prince doesn't seem like a likable person and its horrible how he treats his fans. Prince is very self centered and needs to humble himself. I always thought he was above TIDAL and wonder why he joined those group of clowns but after reading the interview, I see he is actually no different than them.

SoulAlive said:

Just on all that Susannah stuff, I see no reason why it can't have been both for a scene in the film and also about a real-life girl he was into. Most of Purple Rain was a mixture of facts about his life and utterly fabricated story, so it would fit.

Prince being Prince he's never gonna admit that a song he wrote in the past was in any way about someone else, that would take away from his God complex that he can control the entire world and just pull songs that good out of his brain on a whim whenever he feels like it.

prittypriss said:

I'm apparently not reading in this interview what many on this thread seem to be reading in this interview. One thing to keep in mind is that we weren't there. We didn't hear the tone of the conversation, the vocal inflections, the vibe of the moment. We can only read the words that were said, and as such, given that we don't know the vibe of that moment, we interpret it the way we want to interpret it. We put our own spin on those words and read something into it that isn't there. And there are a lot of people on the org that like to diss on Prince and that's evident in this thread. The man has released a lot of music over the years, some brilliant master pieces that will continue to be enjoyed for many years to come, some misses (and that's okay), and yet he gets no respect from his so-called fan base. I don't know, maybe I'm just not reading the interview in the right tone, but I don't see him being bitter at all. To me, the man was just talking about things as they came up with someone he thought he could trust to keep it off the record and he was just having a normal moment with someone - something that we all have with friends from time to time - and then it was published, making what was a private conversation, a public spectacle (and only a spectacle because people will read into it what they want to read into it). Let the man have a normal moment in his life without his fans making it a big deal and turning it into something it's not.

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"Prince cannot fail, he can only be failed."

Polo1026 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh please, go look up the facts: WBR wanted to do a greatest hits for years and Prince had been getting in the way over and over again. They finally paid him several millions to get the fuck out of the way so they could get it done.

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Of course, the set sold disappointingly because Prince did no serious promo. It's baffling how such a fantastic set -- three CDs for the price of two and one of those CDs being a collection of B-Sides most of which were vinyl only, fantastic liner notes, at least one stunning previously unreleased track -- sold so little, whereas other artists have collections that are million sellers.

Where are these facts posted? Links please!

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Prince getting paid millions is well-known and was documented by Uptown years ago; see also PrinceVault.

bluegangsta said:

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Except he doesn't know anything.

iZsaZsa said:

"EBONY: Will you be remastering the catalog? Prince: Hopefully, yeah. A new Greatest Hits. Because I never had anything to do with [The Hits/The B-Sides]. But put great liner notes in it to explain what record came from what and why." Yeah, hopefully! I'll never take anyone elses word on "what, what and why" anymore anyway.

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Except that Prince is a proven liar -- which is why he doesn't want his interviews recorded and for a while even forbade taking notes, so he could later claim that he didn't say "stupid thing X". Of course, then he goes on TV and babbles about chem trails.

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Hell, there's a bunch of BS in the liner notes to CB, even though they were barely more than a few lines at best.

tollyc said:

BartVanHemelen said:

This interview shows what a sad man Prince has become. Such delusions, utterly believing his own bullshit.

I don't think I have ever agreed with Bart on anything but his statement above is so truth. Prince comes off as so petty in this article. It's like hey Prince...we've all grown up, you can to. You are a human being and you write music based upon real life. Some times he believes his own fantasy and mythology. I wish he would just feel real emotions, have a kid or two, change a diaper and grow as a human being. Wrote about that!

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You'd think the death of his parents would be a source. Instead we get countless "I'm the fonkiest" lame-o party tracks.

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Meanwhile Sufjan Stevens gives us Carrie & Lowell and is in "best of the year" lists everywhere. Björk suffers heartbreak and gives us Vulnicura, another album often featured on "best of the year" lists.