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Thread started 12/15/15 1:47pm

blackbob

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the 1986 box set

if anyone ever questions his genius...give them a copy of this 20 disc boxset of music and videos from 1986..creativity and musical growth that has never been matched since imo..

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http://1986boxset.blogspot.co.uk/

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Reply #1 posted 12/15/15 1:53pm

HatrinaHaterwi
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Where the hell is the buy button??? razz

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Reply #2 posted 12/15/15 2:38pm

NorthC

Right beneath the "wishful thinking" button. wink
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Reply #3 posted 12/15/15 2:44pm

Guitarhero

Hey look Prince , cash cows lol

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Reply #4 posted 12/15/15 4:16pm

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NorthC said:

Right beneath the "wishful thinking" button. wink

lol

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Reply #5 posted 12/15/15 4:16pm

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Guitarhero said:

Hey look Prince , cash cows lol


It certainly ain't no secret that I will quite happily pay for what I actually want. But I'm not spending one red cent on his "Oh I can just throw together some whatever out there and they'll buy it" bullshit! Ain't happenin' Captain! hmph!

[Edited 12/16/15 19:45pm]

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Reply #6 posted 12/15/15 4:31pm

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Me like it.

Happy to hear things such as "Strawberry Lover" or "Boys Club" properly FLAC'd.
I could do without the foefurs remasters, it's true that he's not so subtle with the compressor.

The videos are of impeccable quality, and the "media" folder has all that you wish for.

What a great collection, even if a bit "anything goes".
This gets close to some kind of Per Nilsen's doing a compilation.
As much as I love Nilsen's work and the Princevault, most of the times I don't care if Prince took a crap or not on october 26th.

Still, an impressive work. I would give my buckos any day for a set like this one.

Prince, the only artist that has fans doing the job of a record company, minus, of course, the distribution and promotion. Oh well. Serves him right.

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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #7 posted 12/15/15 4:34pm

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i once told someone that he was deeply involved in something like 20 albums worth of stuff from 81-87

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #8 posted 12/15/15 7:20pm

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seriously, there the F is the BUY button?

PRINCE - THIS IS WHAT WE WANT! holy crap

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Reply #9 posted 12/15/15 8:28pm

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bonatoc said:

Me like it.

Happy to hear things such as "Strawberry Lover" or "Boys Club" properly FLAC'd.
I could do without the foefurs remasters, it's true that he's not so subtle with the compressor.

The videos are of impeccable quality, and the "media" folder has all that you wish for.

What a great collection, even if a bit "anything goes".
This gets close to some kind of Per Nilsen's doing a compilation.
As much as I love Nilsen's work and the Princevault, most of the times I don't care if Prince took a crap or not on october 26th.

Still, an impressive work. I would give my buckos any day for a set like this one.

Prince, the only artist that has fans doing the job of a record company, minus, of course, the distribution and promotion. Oh well. Serves him right.

[Edited 12/15/15 16:32pm]

clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping clapping

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Reply #10 posted 12/15/15 9:18pm

udo

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Isn't most of this stuff floating around?

If not all, which gems are still unavailable?

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/15 10:26pm

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“Parade was a disaster. The temptation is to go right back into the studio and make a killer album, but I think half the problem with Parade was that I recorded it too soon after Around The World, and I just didn’t have enough good material ready. I’m not gonna make that mistake again.”

Given that Parade is now considered one of his strongest albums, ever, I really wish I could sit with Prince and discuss his statement and how he feels about it today nod

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Reply #12 posted 12/16/15 1:31am

jaawwnn

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

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Reply #13 posted 12/16/15 4:04am

darkroman

This set is very interesting.

I like some of the better sounding versions of previously circulating tracks.

Baby Go-Go is my favourite so far - but obviously there are loads of great gems in this.

Cheers,

lol lol lol lol

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Reply #14 posted 12/16/15 4:23am

BartVanHemelen

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jaawwnn said:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

.

Like Bob Dylan released recently. Oh, and if you bought the full 18 CD box set, you got a nice present.

.

But the famz insist this would be impossible.

.

And Prince "doesn't want to look back". (Except when he's releasing a four year old acoustic album he recorded with Andy Allo. Or when he posts a 20 minute video of a gig he did almost a year and a half ago, and the video contains nothing but 30 year old songs. Or when his latest album is a collection of songs recorded and released years ago, and one of them is a remake of a track from the early 1980s. Etc. etc. etc.)

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Reply #15 posted 12/16/15 4:37am

jaawwnn

BartVanHemelen said:

jaawwnn said:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

.

Like Bob Dylan released recently. Oh, and if you bought the full 18 CD box set, you got a nice present.

.

But the famz insist this would be impossible.

.

And Prince "doesn't want to look back". (Except when he's releasing a four year old acoustic album he recorded with Andy Allo. Or when he posts a 20 minute video of a gig he did almost a year and a half ago, and the video contains nothing but 30 year old songs. Or when his latest album is a collection of songs recorded and released years ago, and one of them is a remake of a track from the early 1980s. Etc. etc. etc.)

yeah pretty much, even if Prince would allow it (ha!) I don't know if there would be the demand for an 18-disc version. One can dream though.

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/15 6:27am

databank

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BartVanHemelen said:

jaawwnn said:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

.

Like Bob Dylan released recently. Oh, and if you bought the full 18 CD box set, you got a nice present.

.

But the famz insist this would be impossible.

.

And Prince "doesn't want to look back". (Except when he's releasing a four year old acoustic album he recorded with Andy Allo. Or when he posts a 20 minute video of a gig he did almost a year and a half ago, and the video contains nothing but 30 year old songs. Or when his latest album is a collection of songs recorded and released years ago, and one of them is a remake of a track from the early 1980s. Etc. etc. etc.)

We don't know for sure if it was recorded in 2011 or more recently.

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Reply #17 posted 12/16/15 6:47am

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jaawwnn said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Like Bob Dylan released recently. Oh, and if you bought the full 18 CD box set, you got a nice present.

.

But the famz insist this would be impossible.

.

And Prince "doesn't want to look back". (Except when he's releasing a four year old acoustic album he recorded with Andy Allo. Or when he posts a 20 minute video of a gig he did almost a year and a half ago, and the video contains nothing but 30 year old songs. Or when his latest album is a collection of songs recorded and released years ago, and one of them is a remake of a track from the early 1980s. Etc. etc. etc.)

yeah pretty much, even if Prince would allow it (ha!) I don't know if there would be the demand for an 18-disc version. One can dream though.

If Dylan can do it then why not Prince? Maybe the Dylan hardcore could be considered more obsessive than we tend to be (there are some pretty scarily dedicated people out there), but I can't believe that a Prince box set wouldn't be lapped up if it got released. Even a far more conservative box set (say IDK 6-discs like the regular edition of Dylan's Cutting Edge) would be appreciated but so far we've got nothing along those lines sad

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Reply #18 posted 12/16/15 8:09am

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

jaawwnn said:

yeah pretty much, even if Prince would allow it (ha!) I don't know if there would be the demand for an 18-disc version. One can dream though.

If Dylan can do it then why not Prince? Maybe the Dylan hardcore could be considered more obsessive than we tend to be (there are some pretty scarily dedicated people out there), but I can't believe that a Prince box set wouldn't be lapped up if it got released. Even a far more conservative box set (say IDK 6-discs like the regular edition of Dylan's Cutting Edge) would be appreciated but so far we've got nothing along those lines sad


Don't mind me. I just felt that point needed some emphasis. Carry on. cool

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Reply #19 posted 12/16/15 8:21am

jaawwnn

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

jaawwnn said:

yeah pretty much, even if Prince would allow it (ha!) I don't know if there would be the demand for an 18-disc version. One can dream though.

If Dylan can do it then why not Prince? Maybe the Dylan hardcore could be considered more obsessive than we tend to be (there are some pretty scarily dedicated people out there), but I can't believe that a Prince box set wouldn't be lapped up if it got released. Even a far more conservative box set (say IDK 6-discs like the regular edition of Dylan's Cutting Edge) would be appreciated but so far we've got nothing along those lines sad

Oh there's definitely demand for stuff alright, I'm just not sure about the super-deluxe. I'm all for it though!

I suppose what i'm thinking is that it's taken Dylan years of reissues to get to where he is now, the bootleg series has been going since 1991. All we've had from Prince so far is Crystal Ball which, leaving aside the fact that there's loads of great stuff on it, was fairly a disaster in terms of cohesion, era-specific versions, edited songs because Prince felt like it in 1997 etc.

I think Prince has been fairly clear that he doesn't look backwards, and what this means is that he has no interest in old versions of songs or where his headspace was in 1986. If he wants to use an old song (and he does all the time) he wants to update to where he is now. For a reissue series to work what he'd need to do is hire an archivist who respects the past... but prince hates giving other people power, right? So around and around it goes...




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Reply #20 posted 12/16/15 8:30am

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jaawwnn said:

yeah pretty much, even if Prince would allow it (ha!) I don't know if there would be the demand for an 18-disc version. One can dream though.

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When bootleggars can sell 300 and 500 copy releases, why can't mr P? (multiply by 100 for worldwide bigger label stuff)

It's all old material, just brush it up and press it.

But he can't do that of course.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #21 posted 12/16/15 8:36am

jaawwnn

udo said:

jaawwnn said:

yeah pretty much, even if Prince would allow it (ha!) I don't know if there would be the demand for an 18-disc version. One can dream though.

.

When bootleggars can sell 300 and 500 copy releases, why can't mr P? (multiply by 100 for worldwide bigger label stuff)

It's all old material, just brush it up and press it.

But he can't do that of course.

I know, I know : (

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Reply #22 posted 12/16/15 5:17pm

luvsexy4all

is everything on here the BEST possible quality audio/video ????

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Reply #23 posted 12/17/15 4:28am

darkroman

luvsexy4all said:

is everything on here the BEST possible quality audio/video ????

All of the official vinyl and CD sources are.

Some of the other tracks are way better such as Baby G-Go but a lot of others are just what are already circulating.

I see this project as an amazing historical document rather than canon of studio quality masters.

The videos are very compressed.

wink lol wink lol

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Reply #24 posted 12/17/15 5:28am

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I think this Hitnrun is a way to give us some of this recording. If really "Free Urself" and "If I Can Get Ur Attention" are from the "lovesexy" Phase III, we are going to have a late-'80 album from Prince.

And the next cover is a "Purple Rain" Phase IV...

I'm really happy for this Hitnrun project. I enjoyed the experimental Phase I, nice to see Prince playing with different sounds and tunes. And I love the Phase II, a very good collection of songs from last five years. And, yes, I like the two singles from Phase III.

I loved Crystal Ball in 1998, The Vault some years later, and this Hitnrun is a very good way to keep give freedom to songs.

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Reply #25 posted 12/17/15 6:54am

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databank said:

“Parade was a disaster. The temptation is to go right back into the studio and make a killer album, but I think half the problem with Parade was that I recorded it too soon after Around The World, and I just didn’t have enough good material ready. I’m not gonna make that mistake again.”

Given that Parade is now considered one of his strongest albums, ever, I really wish I could sit with Prince and discuss his statement and how he feels about it today nod

In what interview did he make such a blasphemous statement? lol

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Reply #26 posted 12/17/15 8:22am

TrevorAyer

This "box" looks a lot like my hard drive
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Reply #27 posted 12/17/15 8:45am

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jaawwnn said:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

I don't think there really is such a thing as "The Revolution sessions". But maybe you mean sessions from the time period he used The Revolution as his backing band (and sometimes invited members of the band to help out in the studio)?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #28 posted 12/17/15 9:18am

jaawwnn

paulludvig said:

jaawwnn said:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

I don't think there really is such a thing as "The Revolution sessions". But maybe you mean sessions from the time period he used The Revolution as his backing band (and sometimes invited members of the band to help out in the studio)?

Yeah I guess I do. Would it be worth splitting into songs he worked on with other people vs. just him? It might be, it might not be. It's known he gave some songs to (for example) Wendy & Lisa to work on, i'd like to see what they added to his previous demos. There's also before and after Clare Fischer versions of songs. Warehouse rehearsal full band versions of tracks... all of that...

I'm sure it all adds up to an unholy amount of music, I think it'd be cool to see the various different archives anyway, rather than have a single definitive version chosen. It was all chosen not to be released at the time at the end of the day.

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Reply #29 posted 12/18/15 5:34am

hw3004

BartVanHemelen said:

jaawwnn said:

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. What we really want is the complete (as is feasible) Revolution sessions rather than any half-baked tracklistings of proposed albums which would end up with all sorts of alternate versions people aren't happy with. Or, god forbid, prince's current take on a song.

.

Like Bob Dylan released recently. Oh, and if you bought the full 18 CD box set, you got a nice present.

.

But the famz insist this would be impossible.

.

And Prince "doesn't want to look back". (Except when he's releasing a four year old acoustic album he recorded with Andy Allo. Or when he posts a 20 minute video of a gig he did almost a year and a half ago, and the video contains nothing but 30 year old songs. Or when his latest album is a collection of songs recorded and released years ago, and one of them is a remake of a track from the early 1980s. Etc. etc. etc.)

...for $600, I'd expect it hand delivered by Dylan himself!

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