...since The Gold Experience and better than anything since.

Can I get a witness?

Agreed. Damn near flawless album.

Agreed... Up until Lotusflow3r - his last near-flawless album.

bluegangsta said:

Agreed... Up until Lotusflow3r - his last near-flawless album.

Lotusflow3r is the EMANCIPATION of the 00's... So much filler on those two albums...

3121, I have no idea why the ORG never gives this album the credit it's due. It's the most complete Prince album of the 00's by far. I mean songs like Fury and The Word, The Dance... Such a strong album when you compare it to everything else released.

I was refering to Lotusflow3r standalone. Not MPLS and thisisthelatestchickimbanging discs.

No, it's not. It's very good, but the "best"? Never!

Ooops really?? One of his worst.. imo.

I find it so average, I only like 1 song from 3121.. and that's Black Sweat......

< And no I don't like The Dance, my username is short for Danceelectric...



(just before anyone is asking once again)...

Worst thread ever.

Planet Earth is betta.

It's strange, with his old albums there was no dramatic opinions on how good or bad his album was... When you talk about Parade, 1999, Sign O' The Times, Purple Rain, etc... We all pretty much agree on their genius...

But with his work being so average and below average these last 15 or so years, we can't even as fans come to agree on what album is "bad" or "good" anymore... I guess that shows how inconsistant his work has been over these years.

I loved the title track, as well as "Black Sweat," "Fury," and of course, "The Dance," but I just think with 3121 the sum of its parts are greater than the whole.

Some say AOA is his best in years, others say 3121, some say Planet Earth... At this point I don't even know what to critically say what is good and bad anymore. I can say MPLS Sound is a good album, even though we know it's not...

I'll just stick to his oldies on vinyl.

KingSausage said:

nah...

feeluupp said:

Some say AOA is his best in years, others say 3121, some say Planet Earth... At this point I don't even know what to critically say what is good and bad anymore. I can say MPLS Sound is a good album, even though we know it's not...

I'll just stick to his oldies on vinyl.

I would say 3121 is his best since Scary Monsters.

Or, am I getting confused there ... .

KingSausage said:

3121 is a very good modern Prince album. But I don't think it came touch TRC.

feeluupp said:

It's strange, with his old albums there was no dramatic opinions on how good or bad his album was... When you talk about Parade, 1999, Sign O' The Times, Purple Rain, etc... We all pretty much agree on their genius...

But with his work being so average and below average these last 15 or so years, we can't even as fans come to agree on what album is "bad" or "good" anymore... I guess that shows how inconsistant his work has been over these years.

This is the Gospel truth in Princeville. IMO there hasn't been one album post Lovesexy that I think is genuis but he used to hit the mark more often than not but for me it just went downhill with the disturbingly bland "Emancipation. First time I was totally bored with a new Prince record. 36 tracks- all with the same flat prodction. Just one flabby slob of an album.

I happen to like Planet Earth (it seems to get murdered here) and I like much of Lotus/MPLS but I think 3121 is pretty close to having no filler. Is as good as Parade FERK NO!

thisisreece said:

KingSausage said:

3121 is a very good modern Prince album. But I don't think it came touch TRC.

TRC is truly a love it or hate it album. For me the narration drags it down. Maybe I'll give it another chance

Miles said:

feeluupp said:

Some say AOA is his best in years, others say 3121, some say Planet Earth... At this point I don't even know what to critically say what is good and bad anymore. I can say MPLS Sound is a good album, even though we know it's not...

I'll just stick to his oldies on vinyl.

I would say 3121 is his best since Scary Monsters.

Or, am I getting confused there ... .

3121 is a very good album and will go down as a Prince classic in years to come.

For me it's between AOA and TRC.

That said, Musicology, 3121 and Lotusflow3r have their charms.

3121 is an album that never really clicked with me. There are quite a few songs on there that I like to various degrees, but except Black Sweat all of them somehow fail to really excite me. Well crafted songs, but a bit plain and boring somehow. I have tried to get into this album but it wasn't for me.

I by far prefer TRC as 'the best Prince album since The Gold Album'. TRC had shitty lyrics but at least the music(ianship) was great. As a Prince fan I am sort of hoping for a "The Rainbow Children pt.2" musically, but then with non-religious, more universal lyrics.

I also think that AOA was a pretty solid newer Prince album. And I really enjoy the new songs Stare and Free Urself. So at the moment Prince isn't doing too bad in my opinion.

homesquid said:

...since The Gold Experience and better than anything since.

Can I get a witness?

I don't really see any logic in making absolute statements like that.

Best according to which criterias? There are many ways the quality of a work of art can be assessed.

And is it really necessary to compare albums? Can't they just be judged for what they are?

feeluupp said:

It's strange, with his old albums there was no dramatic opinions on how good or bad his album was... When you talk about Parade, 1999, Sign O' The Times, Purple Rain, etc... We all pretty much agree on their genius...

But with his work being so average and below average these last 15 or so years, we can't even as fans come to agree on what album is "bad" or "good" anymore... I guess that shows how inconsistant his work has been over these years.

Honestly I think it shows how inconsistant P's fans are.

I read a lot of absolute statements on here by people who are unable to make a clear demonstration of why they believe such record is great and such record sucks. They "feel" it's genius or plain lame and believe it justifies their "feeling" being edicted into a dogma (see how many threads begin with "let's face facts" ).

Lots of such people also have a really limited musical culture besides the most obvious, mainstream music scene.

Basically the rule of the uneducated.

As usual, it's all matter of subjective musical taste.

"3121" is for me the "less played" P album of the 00's, together with "Musicology".

Some good cut, but all in all not that great achievement.

databank said:

homesquid said:

3121 Is The Best Prince Album ...since The Gold Experience and better than anything since.

Can I get a witness?