feeluupp said:

TraSoul82 said:

Prince's greatest flaws are impatience and album sequencing. There's no reason why the last 2 years of music couldn't have been used to craft a stellar album other than his ego. If he had a focus group instead of yes men, he'd be commercially relevant based on his recent work and not just his past.

The idea of a focus group is so obvious. With the amount of material he comes up with, why not invite 20-30 people (such as from the org) to listen to demos of 16 songs or to a two minute snippet of songs and let them help him choose.

To be honest, the first HitNRun album is quite poor. Looking at songs from the last few years that are out there and not on an album is a shame.

I would like to see the already released (good) "hit" singles on it. Like in the old days an album deserves some great recognisable tracks. And great singles (like Stare, Baltimore, IECGUA, Screwdriver, RNR Love Affair) deserve to be on an album.

Somehow those are the albums I remember and rate best over the years.

But, of course that means the album should have more than 10 tracks so we also get a lot of new stuff.

redflag said:

I'm seeing lots of speculation that WB isn't immediately releasing the album because of quality, but what major label immediately releases an album after it's turned in these days, especially if it's not by a top seller like Taylor Swift or Adele.

I remember an interview Fleetwood Mac member Lindsey Buckingham gave a while back where he said he once delivered a new solo album to WB and they told him they couldn't afford to release it that quarter because they needed to make their quarterly numbers so instead of waiting he released the album independently instead.

It could just be that they want the stink of the commercial and critical bomb of "HitNRun Phase One" to die down and they may plan to release it by the end of 1st Quarter 2016 when they can plan for it in their budget.

This is exactly why, imo anyway, Prince is in the doghouse with WB. Blown budgets, failed projections. I wouldn't be surprised if people were fired becuase of his PR remaster stunt last year.

IstenSzek said:

Smillan said:

TraSoul82 said:

Prince's greatest flaws are impatience and album sequencing. There's no reason why the last 2 years of music couldn't have been used to craft a stellar album other than his ego. If he had a focus group instead of yes men, he'd be commercially relevant based on his recent work and not just his past.

The idea of a focus group is so obvious. With the amount of material he comes up with, why not invite 20-30 people (such as from the org) to listen to demos of 16 songs or to a two minute snippet of songs and let them help him choose.

To be honest, the first HitNRun album is quite poor. Looking at songs from the last few years that are out there and not on an album is a shame.

Haha, I can't believe the things I read on this website. Prince should ask people from prince.org to go hear his demos and "help him choose". This is too much

I think warner will release the album in the first months of 2016...

Now there is too much competition and Hitnrun phase 1 was just released some months ago...

I think it is good news that it will get a bigger release this time...

They did it quite well with AOA....

linus4000 said:

I think warner will release the album in the first months of 2016...

Now there is too much competition and Hitnrun phase 1 was just released some months ago...

I think it is good news that it will get a bigger release this time...

They did it quite well with AOA....

I don't understand...why they did not released Phase 1....Why release Phase 2 ?...and why Purple Rain The remaster is not release yet ?? or never??

Why ...Why??

luvsexy4all said:

but why is this at WB and not Tidal?

.

Without wanting sound cynical, but I doubt Tidal would do such a good deal again.

They paid up front thinking they'd get a massive take up of subscriptions, and PR from Prince, but it didn't happen.

Just speculation, but I'm 99% sure that's what happened. Now Prince is looking for another company to pay him.

love2thenines2003 said:

linus4000 said:

I think warner will release the album in the first months of 2016...

Now there is too much competition and Hitnrun phase 1 was just released some months ago...

I think it is good news that it will get a bigger release this time...

They did it quite well with AOA....

I don't understand...why they did not released Phase 1....Why release Phase 2 ?...and why Purple Rain The remaster is not release yet ?? or never??

Why ...Why??

Believe it or not, i think Prince wanted to make a statement...look, i support Tidal, an artist friendly streaming platform, and i have my music there exclusively...which is excactly what the press wrote...

They rarely mentioned that the album did get a proper release later...which hurt the sales a lot...

And the remasters...don`t know...maybe they think just the original album without any extras is not worth a big campaign...i mean PR still sells like 1000-2000 copies per week in the US...

funksterr said:

redflag said:

I'm seeing lots of speculation that WB isn't immediately releasing the album because of quality, but what major label immediately releases an album after it's turned in these days, especially if it's not by a top seller like Taylor Swift or Adele.

I remember an interview Fleetwood Mac member Lindsey Buckingham gave a while back where he said he once delivered a new solo album to WB and they told him they couldn't afford to release it that quarter because they needed to make their quarterly numbers so instead of waiting he released the album independently instead.

It could just be that they want the stink of the commercial and critical bomb of "HitNRun Phase One" to die down and they may plan to release it by the end of 1st Quarter 2016 when they can plan for it in their budget.

This is exactly why, imo anyway, Prince is in the doghouse with WB. Blown budgets, failed projections. I wouldn't be surprised if people were fired becuase of his PR remaster stunt last year.

what blown budget,, the cost to them is negligible reallly,..no producers, studio time, sample clearances etc. videos etc what budget are you referring too

[Edited 12/11/15 4:36am]

Marco81 said:

Smillan said:

The idea of a focus group is so obvious. With the amount of material he comes up with, why not invite 20-30 people (such as from the org) to listen to demos of 16 songs or to a two minute snippet of songs and let them help him choose.

To be honest, the first HitNRun album is quite poor. Looking at songs from the last few years that are out there and not on an album is a shame.

Haha, I can't believe the things I read on this website. Prince should ask people from prince.org to go hear his demos and "help him choose". This is too much

delusional.. they know better than him yet have done nothing to gain any credibilty

james said:

luvsexy4all said:

but why is this at WB and not Tidal?

.

Without wanting sound cynical, but I doubt Tidal would do such a good deal again.

They paid up front thinking they'd get a massive take up of subscriptions, and PR from Prince, but it didn't happen.

Just speculation, but I'm 99% sure that's what happened. Now Prince is looking for another company to pay him.

UM HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY GAINED IN SUBSCRIBERS. THE DEAL WASNT REALLY FOR HNR, IT WAS FOR HIS CATALOG, HNR IS A LOSS LEADER FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION

NorthC said:

feeluupp said:

PRINCE DID.

All he said was that he delivered an album to WB, nnamed a few titles and then deleted all those tweets. That does not count as an album announcement. As long as there's no release date, there's nothing.

... Which indicates there is a new album...

trax said:

EroticDreamer said:

I hope it will be.

And I especially want Groovy Potential to get an album release.

Why!!?? We already have Groovy Potential. I would rather he leaves that and Get your attention off. I really don't mind if Stare and free yourself is not on there either. I want stuff we don't have yet.

I usually prefer new song on a new album as well. But I make an exception for Groovy Potential which I think deserves a proper release. Best track in recent years imo.

lwr001 said:

funksterr said:

This is exactly why, imo anyway, Prince is in the doghouse with WB. Blown budgets, failed projections. I wouldn't be surprised if people were fired becuase of his PR remaster stunt last year.

what blown budget,, the cost to them is negligible reallly,..no producers, studio time, sample clearances etc. videos etc what budget are you referring too

[Edited 12/11/15 4:36am]

It still costs money to release an album, promotion and physical distribution doesn't come free. Not to mention Prince doesn't take care of all those things on his end for free either, he expects to be compensated by an upfront payment, so WB would still be paying for the production costs.

Agree with you there. From figures quoted in the press TIDAL was at about 700,000 subscribers when Prince joined and they hit 1,000,000 around October. Not saying Prince is responsible for all or most of that, but a growth of 300,000 subs in a couple of months is nothing to sneeze at. I think Prince just sees he needs a proper label to do the promotion (and a project more appealing and less polarizing to his fanbase). I think TIDAL will still be in the loop, as with other TIDAL artists that have major label deals. If WB releases Phase Two, I would expect maybe an exclusive pre-release stream for about a week before the (more heavily promoted) retail release date like Jack White recently did for his latest project. Then of course it would likely remain a streaming exclusive just like the rest of his back catalogue distributed by WB.

[Edited 12/11/15 6:59am]

lwr001 said:

Marco81 said:

Haha, I can't believe the things I read on this website. Prince should ask people from prince.org to go hear his demos and "help him choose". This is too much

delusional.. they know better than him yet have done nothing to gain any credibilty

Not 100% without precedent. The planned release of Crystal Ball II involved people listening to and choosing certain songs.

Something along the lines of that could be beneficial towards releasing a more coherent album than HitNRun -just my two cents.

linus4000 said:

Although the tweets are subject to be deleted later (EDIT: they were), the Prince account on Twitter just stated 2Y2D was one of the Phase Two tracks.

https://twitter.com/Princ...7269164032

https://twitter.com/Princ...5390002176

[Edited 12/11/15 17:36pm]

So far...

HitnRun: Phase 2

-Revelation

-Black Muse

-Big City

-2 Young 2 Dare

feeluupp said:

feeluupp said:

So far...

HitnRun: Phase 2

-Revelation

-Black Muse

-Big City

-2 Young 2 Dare

I officially have a full on robot chubby now. Even if these are older tracks this has huge potential, groovy even!

redflag said:

Although the tweets are subject to be deleted later, the Prince account on Twitter just stated 2Y2D was one of the Phase Two tracks.

https://twitter.com/Princ...7269164032

https://twitter.com/Princ...5390002176

2 Young, 2 Young 2 Dare

This should be an absolutely fantastic, faith restoring album

MIRvmn said:

I'm more than glad that 2Y2D is on the album, I want this Phase 2 now

mikeyaddict said:

It could be pretty strong, but he could easily fuck it with a poor running order - AOA coulda been a lot better without the bits where he slowed it right down and killed the pace. When was Black Muse confirmed - wasn't that from around the period of W2A? Fuck, there were a few kicking around then - We Live To Get Funky immediately springs to mind. Fingers crossed tho its sooner rather than later - remember how long Plec was trailed before it made it out?

AOA also has some stupid woman talking all over it, who infact had very bad diction and the grammar was appalling!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prince must have the greatest amount of deaf fans of any musician in the world.

Groovy Potential? Nice horns, but that's it.

2 Young 2 Dare? It's so bad, it almost makes Guitar seem good.

Pentacle said: