independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Billboard: TOP 35 R&B Artists of All Time
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 11/30/15 12:17pm

feeluupp

Billboard: TOP 35 R&B Artists of All Time

http://www.billboard.com/photos/6737387/best-r-and-b-singers-of-all-time/29

8. Prince

Prince’s innovative fusion of R&B/soul, funk, jazz, rock and more put the singer/songwriter/multi-instrumentalist and hometown Minneapolis on the map in 1978 with “Soft and Wet.” Then it kicked in full force a year later with his first R&B No. 1 “I Wanna Be Your Lover.” Prince’s fearlessness -- from his adventurous guitar riffs to his multi-personality vocals -- is the propelling force behind such seminal albums as 1999, Purple Rain, Sign O the Times andDiamonds and Pearls.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 11/30/15 12:59pm

Wolfie87

So Thriller is ranked as the best Top R&B artist of all time. Fuck you Billboard, and a huge middle finger against Prince from their side. "/.../is the propelling force behind such seminal albums as 1999, Purple Rain, Sign O the Times and Diamonds and Pearls." So everybody in here can shove Lovesexy and The Black Album up their asses. They don't count as credible albums just so you know. Ask Billboard, they will tell you and you just witnessed it first hand.

[Edited 11/30/15 13:03pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 11/30/15 1:25pm

NorthC

There is no artist called Thriller. Any R&B list that does not have James Brown as # 1 can't be good.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 12/01/15 5:13pm

funksterr

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.

[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 12/01/15 5:26pm

Alexandernvrmi
nd

avatar

funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.

[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]



Good Lord you guys are a bunch of idiots on this board

Do Me Baby, Insatiable, How Come You Don't Call Me, Head, IW2BYL, Adore, Erotic City, Kiss, AnotherLoverHoNyoHead....I could go on and not to mention the stuff he wrote for the Time, Chaka Khan

Prince most certainly is an R&B artist, he was also a pop and rock star and many times he took on all of those personas in the same song

Just a bunch of dopes on this board lol
Dance... Let me see you dance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 12/01/15 6:25pm

funksterr

Alexandernvrmind said:

funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.

[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]

Good Lord you guys are a bunch of idiots on this board Do Me Baby, Insatiable, How Come You Don't Call Me, Head, IW2BYL, Adore, Erotic City, Kiss, AnotherLoverHoNyoHead....I could go on and not to mention the stuff he wrote for the Time, Chaka Khan Prince most certainly is an R&B artist, he was also a pop and rock star and many times he took on all of those personas in the same song Just a bunch of dopes on this board lol

Yes, YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE.

Everyone else is simply plain DUMB.

No actually, you ARE the idiot, because you listed the 3 songs I said he released around 1979 that were R&B. Kiss isn't R&B. Erotic City is questionable. Adore is his one true R&B hit past the early part of his career, and one R&B hit shouldn't get you a #8 ranking. The Chaka Kahn cover version of IFFY, he had nothing to do with. By your reasoning Dolly Parton should get a spot ahead of Whitney Houston on an R&B list because she wrote "I Will Always Love You"?

The rest of the songs you lsited were not really part of the R&B scene. That's where I'm coming from. Prince was not and never shall be an R&B act. R&B is Babyface, Gerald Levert, R Kelly, Luther Vandross, Kenny Latimore, Aretha Franklin, Al Green, Phylis Hyman, Teena Marie, etc...

Prince's 'Play That Funky Music' sell-out azz was not performing R&B music during his hitmaking period. He was too busy tryna be white. No big deal, we loved him, but.... How he gonna be #8 R&B when so many people, of his era mind you, were much more crucial to the R&B scene.

If I think 80's R&B, or even 70's/80's/90's R&B there are tons more true R&B acts that come to mind deserving of that recognition. Prince at most dabbles in R&B, and even then he mostly misses because he doesn't have the voice and his music isn't rooted in the gospel tradition which is the foundation of R&B.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 12/01/15 6:31pm

luvsexy4all

good god////hes pop/r&b/soul/rock/

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 12/01/15 7:01pm

funksterr

luvsexy4all said:

good god////hes pop/r&b/soul/rock/

Genre-blenders are generally pop. No need for the other labels.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 12/01/15 7:07pm

UncleJam

avatar

I have no problem with Prince's ranking, and everyone ahead of him should be ahead of him...except for Mr. Jackson. Michael Jackson #1? BOLLOCKS. Also...R. Kelly is ranked higher than Sam Cooke. disbelief

Make it so, Number One...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 12/01/15 7:07pm

MotownSubdivis
ion

After Billboard deliberately left off 2Pac and ranked Biggie #1 to troll people along with giving Rakim a spot on their Top 10 Hip Hop Artists list just to appear as though they have a legitimate knowledge of hip hop music, I'll sit this one out.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 12/01/15 7:55pm

laurarichardso
n

funksterr said:



Alexandernvrmind said:


funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.


[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]



Good Lord you guys are a bunch of idiots on this board Do Me Baby, Insatiable, How Come You Don't Call Me, Head, IW2BYL, Adore, Erotic City, Kiss, AnotherLoverHoNyoHead....I could go on and not to mention the stuff he wrote for the Time, Chaka Khan Prince most certainly is an R&B artist, he was also a pop and rock star and many times he took on all of those personas in the same song Just a bunch of dopes on this board lol

Yes, YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE.



Everyone else is simply plain DUMB.

No actually, you ARE the idiot, because you listed the 3 songs I said he released around 1979 that were R&B. Kiss isn't R&B. Erotic City is questionable. Adore is his one true R&B hit past the early part of his career, and one R&B hit shouldn't get you a #8 ranking. The Chaka Kahn cover version of IFFY, he had nothing to do with. By your reasoning Dolly Parton should get a spot ahead of Whitney Houston on an R&B list because she wrote "I Will Always Love You"?

The rest of the songs you lsited were not really part of the R&B scene. That's where I'm coming from. Prince was not and never shall be an R&B act. R&B is Babyface, Gerald Levert, R Kelly, Luther Vandross, Kenny Latimore, Aretha Franklin, Al Green, Phylis Hyman, Teena Marie, etc...

Prince's 'Play That Funky Music' sell-out azz was not performing R&B music during his hitmaking period. He was too busy tryna be white. No big deal, we loved him, but.... How he gonna be #8 R&B when so many people, of his era mind you, were much more crucial to the R&B scene.

If I think 80's R&B, or even 70's/80's/90's R&B there are tons more true R&B acts that come to mind deserving of that recognition. Prince at most dabbles in R&B, and even then he mostly misses because he doesn't have the voice and his music isn't rooted in the gospel tradition which is the foundation of R&B.


You think Kiss is not an RnB song so you are a moron. I believe Billboard is ranking Prince on the amount of songs/albums he has placed on the RnB chart the first 5 albums were RnB nothing pop about them and there is nothing wrong being able to expand as an artist black people are allowed to think outside of the box.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 12/01/15 8:16pm

Alexandernvrmi
nd

avatar

funksterr said:



Alexandernvrmind said:


funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.


[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]



Good Lord you guys are a bunch of idiots on this board Do Me Baby, Insatiable, How Come You Don't Call Me, Head, IW2BYL, Adore, Erotic City, Kiss, AnotherLoverHoNyoHead....I could go on and not to mention the stuff he wrote for the Time, Chaka Khan Prince most certainly is an R&B artist, he was also a pop and rock star and many times he took on all of those personas in the same song Just a bunch of dopes on this board lol

Yes, YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE.



Everyone else is simply plain DUMB.

No actually, you ARE the idiot, because you listed the 3 songs I said he released around 1979 that were R&B. Kiss isn't R&B. Erotic City is questionable. Adore is his one true R&B hit past the early part of his career, and one R&B hit shouldn't get you a #8 ranking. The Chaka Kahn cover version of IFFY, he had nothing to do with. By your reasoning Dolly Parton should get a spot ahead of Whitney Houston on an R&B list because she wrote "I Will Always Love You"?

The rest of the songs you lsited were not really part of the R&B scene. That's where I'm coming from. Prince was not and never shall be an R&B act. R&B is Babyface, Gerald Levert, R Kelly, Luther Vandross, Kenny Latimore, Aretha Franklin, Al Green, Phylis Hyman, Teena Marie, etc...

Prince's 'Play That Funky Music' sell-out azz was not performing R&B music during his hitmaking period. He was too busy tryna be white. No big deal, we loved him, but.... How he gonna be #8 R&B when so many people, of his era mind you, were much more crucial to the R&B scene.

If I think 80's R&B, or even 70's/80's/90's R&B there are tons more true R&B acts that come to mind deserving of that recognition. Prince at most dabbles in R&B, and even then he mostly misses because he doesn't have the voice and his music isn't rooted in the gospel tradition which is the foundation of R&B.



Again you're just stupid man

Prince was all over black radio. Just stupid comments by you. Erotic City is questionable as being an R&B record?

Idiot... Pure t idiot
[Edited 12/1/15 20:17pm]
Dance... Let me see you dance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 12/01/15 9:49pm

inspireof

avatar

I think Prince never ranks well on any lists because his music is too Diverse... They can't put him in only one category... And that's a great thing! lol razz

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 12/02/15 2:29am

Adorecream

On the MJJ boards, they were all like, yes Michael deserves to be number one and he is truly the greatest. I put up a post saying James Brown and Stevie Wonder should be at the top followed by Marvin Gaye and nearly got booted off the site.

.

I think prince should have been #4 or #5, behind Marvin, Stevie, James Brown and Sly Stone, not forgetting the pioneers like Jackie Wilson, Fats Domino and the originator and creator of R and B and rock and the first man to go "whhhhooooooooooo" - The Amazing Little Richard, where is he. Prince is my favourite artist, but even I know that R and B does not begin and end with him. Jacko (Calling him that on MJJ can get you warned and banned) should be at #15 at most.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 12/02/15 2:43am

LittlePurpleYo
da

Wolfie87 said:

So Thriller is ranked as the best Top R&B artist of all time. Fuck you Billboard, and a huge middle finger against Prince from their side. "/.../is the propelling force behind such seminal albums as 1999, Purple Rain, Sign O the Times and Diamonds and Pearls." So everybody in here can shove Lovesexy and The Black Album up their asses. They don't count as credible albums just so you know. Ask Billboard, they will tell you and you just witnessed it first hand.

[Edited 11/30/15 13:03pm]

You might want to relax just a little bit. Were you expecting them to list Planet Earth, or albums the majority of their readership might actually recall?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 12/02/15 2:44am

LittlePurpleYo
da

funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.

[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]

Calling it racist is more than a bit of a stretch. Who's to say they won't have another list for pop or rock artists where he won't also rank? He's clearly recognized for his crossover appeal in any number of circles. Calling it racist is your own thin skin showing.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 12/02/15 2:56am

TraSoul82

As previously stated, Prince will never top any particular list. His staying power is put on display through his ability to be respectfully listed on pretty much every list out there.

With that being said there are some awful examples being thrown around as it relates to his R&B acumen.

The Amo Corazon
Call My Name
You Make My Sunshine
Scandalous
Pink Cashmere
The One

To me, these are just a few of the tracks that hold more water as they don't allow the opposition to hear an up tempo beat and automatically label it pop.

Tracks like 17 Days and Sex in the Summer can easily crossover to pop, but are very much R&B to my ears.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 12/02/15 8:03am

vainandy

avatar

That list was a snoozefest full of 1990s and 2000s "artists". bored

Andy is a four letter word.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 12/02/15 1:34pm

214

Adorecream said:

On the MJJ boards, they were all like, yes Michael deserves to be number one and he is truly the greatest. I put up a post saying James Brown and Stevie Wonder should be at the top followed by Marvin Gaye and nearly got booted off the site.

.

I think prince should have been #4 or #5, behind Marvin, Stevie, James Brown and Sly Stone, not forgetting the pioneers like Jackie Wilson, Fats Domino and the originator and creator of R and B and rock and the first man to go "whhhhooooooooooo" - The Amazing Little Richard, where is he. Prince is my favourite artist, but even I know that R and B does not begin and end with him. Jacko (Calling him that on MJJ can get you warned and banned) should be at #15 at most.

And for a good reason his name is Michael Jackson, you're an asshole.

[Edited 12/2/15 13:48pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 12/02/15 7:36pm

SoulAlive

I think Stevie Wonder is the greatest R&B artist of all time.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 12/03/15 12:26pm

214

SoulAlive said:

I think Stevie Wonder is the greatest R&B artist of all time.

Isn't Stevie a soul and funk artist? or what's the big difference between soul and r&b, and pop as a genre, well may i say that i do not consider it as a music genre?. To me the word applies more, when you're talkin about whatever is popular in certain time. Movies, music, shows or whatever.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 12/03/15 1:41pm

Adorecream

214 said:

Adorecream said:

On the MJJ boards, they were all like, yes Michael deserves to be number one and he is truly the greatest. I put up a post saying James Brown and Stevie Wonder should be at the top followed by Marvin Gaye and nearly got booted off the site.

.

I think prince should have been #4 or #5, behind Marvin, Stevie, James Brown and Sly Stone, not forgetting the pioneers like Jackie Wilson, Fats Domino and the originator and creator of R and B and rock and the first man to go "whhhhooooooooooo" - The Amazing Little Richard, where is he. Prince is my favourite artist, but even I know that R and B does not begin and end with him. Jacko (Calling him that on MJJ can get you warned and banned) should be at #15 at most.

And for a good reason his name is Michael Jackson, you're an asshole.

[Edited 12/2/15 13:48pm]

Wow, hate from both forums for my opinions on this, even if it is just from a troll, whom I do not take seriously at all.

.

Before you get all hot and flustered, realise that I am a big Michael Jackson fan too, but I still feel Prince is a way better musician than MJ ever was, although MJ was the best performer, singer and dancer.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 12/03/15 2:08pm

QueenofPurpleP
alace

avatar

Lawwwwwd.....Billboard keep fucking up lol. But in all honestly this kinda makes sense. Prince continues to top the RNB hip hop charts so I can see why they ranked him that. And lets be real Prince keeps being skipped over along with Janet Jackson, Otis Redding,etc when these Greatest anything comes out.

And for those complaining about Michael being on top....it's Billboard and he's Michael Jackson. ...the names are synomous with each other. He has more hits and on Billboard that's what matters. It doesn't make it right but hey it is what it is.
I Just Came To Dance and Shade for Yall
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 12/03/15 3:45pm

Wolfie87

Adorecream said:

214 said:

And for a good reason his name is Michael Jackson, you're an asshole.

[Edited 12/2/15 13:48pm]

although MJ was the best performer, singer and dancer.

I listen to Adore and Insatiable (D&P Beginnings specifically) and don't agree with everything you say on singing (consider his deep, dark voice when he speaks). I see the Lovesexy concert and all I see is top notch performance. Dancing is another topic though. Even if I don't think all the Prince moves are all that easy to do in fucking high heels.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 12/03/15 3:50pm

Aerogram

avatar

QueenofPurplePalace said:

Lawwwwwd.....Billboard keep fucking up lol. But in all honestly this kinda makes sense. Prince continues to top the RNB hip hop charts so I can see why they ranked him that. And lets be real Prince keeps being skipped over along with Janet Jackson, Otis Redding,etc when these Greatest anything comes out. And for those complaining about Michael being on top....it's Billboard and he's Michael Jackson. ...the names are synomous with each other. He has more hits and on Billboard that's what matters. It doesn't make it right but hey it is what it is.

Exactly, this list is more "Who among those quality acts who topped our charts are the best quality/sales ratio? (And who else can we squeak in to appeal to our overal demographics?)"

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 12/03/15 4:51pm

QueenofPurpleP
alace

avatar

Aerogram said:



QueenofPurplePalace said:


Lawwwwwd.....Billboard keep fucking up lol. But in all honestly this kinda makes sense. Prince continues to top the RNB hip hop charts so I can see why they ranked him that. And lets be real Prince keeps being skipped over along with Janet Jackson, Otis Redding,etc when these Greatest anything comes out. And for those complaining about Michael being on top....it's Billboard and he's Michael Jackson. ...the names are synomous with each other. He has more hits and on Billboard that's what matters. It doesn't make it right but hey it is what it is.


Exactly, this list is more "Who among those quality acts who topped our charts are the best quality/sales ratio? (And who else can we squeak in to appeal to our overal demographics?)"



Plus do you KNOW the hell MJ fans will raise if he isn't #1 on like everything. I mean since 1982 they felt like Mike should be number 1 for everything....they will accept Madonna. ..unhappily but they will accept it
I Just Came To Dance and Shade for Yall
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 12/03/15 4:56pm

214

Adorecream said:

214 said:

And for a good reason his name is Michael Jackson, you're an asshole.

[Edited 12/2/15 13:48pm]

Wow, hate from both forums for my opinions on this, even if it is just from a troll, whom I do not take seriously at all.

.

Before you get all hot and flustered, realise that I am a big Michael Jackson fan too, but I still feel Prince is a way better musician than MJ ever was, although MJ was the best performer, singer and dancer.

No problem, i am not arguing about that, just respect the man, he is not jacko, that's not his name; if you're a big fan as you say, you already should know by now.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 12/03/15 6:05pm

luvsexy4all

SoulAlive said:

I think Stevie Wonder is the greatest R&B artist of all time.

and yet they played him on a rock station ...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 12/03/15 6:40pm

funksterr

LittlePurpleYoda said:

funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.

[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]

Calling it racist is more than a bit of a stretch. Who's to say they won't have another list for pop or rock artists where he won't also rank? He's clearly recognized for his crossover appeal in any number of circles. Calling it racist is your own thin skin showing.

I say it's racist because his credentials are superthin as an R&B act. I can see Prince as like number 50 ALL TIME R&B. If it was a POP category, he celarly deserves at least a TOP 20 ranking.

I say the high ranking is race-based, because he is a popular POP act, who just happens to be black, but his appeal among R&B audiences has always been lacking and suspect.

There is a reason why he plays EUROPE so much, and the US so little. He isn't really popular among fans of R&B or within black culture in general. And he never was, except 1982 through the release of Purple Rain, and that was all over when he came out with ATWIAD, then Parade and UTCM.

Like, who else on this list? Lenny Kravitz? What's he number 20? Darius Rucker? No 50? THey probably got Michael Jordan on there somewhere too, lol.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 12/03/15 9:26pm

XNY

avatar

Alexandernvrmind said:

funksterr said:

Prince is many things but definitely NOT an R&B artist so this list is straight racist BS. Maybe he was R&B in 1979, for like 2-4 songs, but other than that, he was pop.

[Edited 12/1/15 17:14pm]

Good Lord you guys are a bunch of idiots on this board Do Me Baby, Insatiable, How Come You Don't Call Me, Head, IW2BYL, Adore, Erotic City, Kiss, AnotherLoverHoNyoHead....I could go on and not to mention the stuff he wrote for the Time, Chaka Khan Prince most certainly is an R&B artist, he was also a pop and rock star and many times he took on all of those personas in the same song Just a bunch of dopes on this board lol

headbang

For You, Prince, DM, Controversy, 1999, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy, D&P are ALL R&B albums. Do they mix rock and funk...of course they do. But put simply he is an R&B artist.

And a funk pioneer

And a rock star.

All in one. Dat's my Princey Poo wink

"Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Billboard: TOP 35 R&B Artists of All Time