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Reply #30 posted 11/18/15 2:12pm

Polo1026

Pentacle said:

Polo1026 said:

He plays the music in his vault for HIMSELF. He's released albums and performed thousands of concerts for YOU. He is the creator of this art and ultimately he has the right to decide what to do with what he's created. It doesn't belong to the world or fans in any logical argument. You think for one second that YOU, who had nothing to do with the creation of this music, somehow love these songs MORE than the man that created the music? What kind of music colonialism is that?


Yes, yes, yes.

But ask yourself one thing: would you rather have HitnRun after HitnRun or Vault releases from the 1980-1995/6 period?

What I would rather have really doesn't matter does it?

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Reply #31 posted 11/18/15 2:19pm

JKOOLMUSIC

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

warning2all said:

The vault is the Property of Prince Rogers Nelson, and you will not hear it's contents in your lifetime, I am convinced. It's time to forget about it & move on


Frankly, I'm becoming convinced THERE IS NO VAULT. shrug bored

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eek

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lol

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But how does she know that only one tooth fell out and that its only worth one dollar? Why does the dentist charge so much if they're only worth a dollar!

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Reply #32 posted 11/18/15 3:11pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

warning2all said:

The vault is the Property of Prince Rogers Nelson, and you will not hear it's contents in your lifetime, I am convinced. It's time to forget about it & move on


Frankly, I'm becoming convinced THERE IS NO VAULT. shrug bored

omg Heresy!

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #33 posted 11/18/15 3:15pm

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TheDigitalGardener said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Is that trooper in the front drunk?

lol He probably had to get drunk to get up the courage to face the wrath of the Purple Yoda... yoda

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #34 posted 11/18/15 3:26pm

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TheDigitalGardener said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Is that trooper in the front drunk?

lol lol

I wanna know where this is from!!

(And before you say Star Wars.............................. you know what I mean)

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Reply #35 posted 11/18/15 5:46pm

luvsexy4all

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Working from my own personal memory but the last time we got vault material in it original form was Crystal Ball. And that was the result of a spat between Prince and WB. Crystal Ball is literally an official bootleg because WB had the right to release most of it, but Prince released it independently without their permission, resulting in WB threatening Prince with a lawsuit. That was like 1997- 1998? My point here is that Prince has invested 20 years into a feud with WB about the vault material. The sticking point in the past was that Warner's was due a 35 year window of control over vault material beginning the day it is released just as it had over the original albums. Prince could not stomach this, so he waited them out and hoped for a better deal.

That's why 2014 seemed so exciting. The better deal had apparantley come.


Only.... WB announced outtakes and Prince declined to give them any.

In 2015 TIDAL announced outtakes and Prince hasn't given them any.


Some say he can, but it just seems to me like Prince can't release the outtakes without WB getting another 35 year window of control, which means the rest of Prince's lifetime more than likely. Prince has pretty much no incentive to ever release them. Hence the comment, iirc, Prince made in an interview this year about the outtakes "Somebody will release them, but it won't be me",

[Edited 11/17/15 19:29pm]

that somebody will be bootleg companies

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Reply #36 posted 11/18/15 6:10pm

funksterr

luvsexy4all said:

funksterr said:

Working from my own personal memory but the last time we got vault material in it original form was Crystal Ball. And that was the result of a spat between Prince and WB. Crystal Ball is literally an official bootleg because WB had the right to release most of it, but Prince released it independently without their permission, resulting in WB threatening Prince with a lawsuit. That was like 1997- 1998? My point here is that Prince has invested 20 years into a feud with WB about the vault material. The sticking point in the past was that Warner's was due a 35 year window of control over vault material beginning the day it is released just as it had over the original albums. Prince could not stomach this, so he waited them out and hoped for a better deal.

That's why 2014 seemed so exciting. The better deal had apparantley come.


Only.... WB announced outtakes and Prince declined to give them any.

In 2015 TIDAL announced outtakes and Prince hasn't given them any.


Some say he can, but it just seems to me like Prince can't release the outtakes without WB getting another 35 year window of control, which means the rest of Prince's lifetime more than likely. Prince has pretty much no incentive to ever release them. Hence the comment, iirc, Prince made in an interview this year about the outtakes "Somebody will release them, but it won't be me",

[Edited 11/17/15 19:29pm]

that somebody will be bootleg companies

30 years and counting. Bootlegger have released the best Prince albums. But sticking it to Warner Brother's makes Prince feel like a BAWSE!

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Reply #37 posted 11/18/15 8:23pm

mrsquirrel

COOL! Yeah, I haven't read a single word you've typed.

THE VAULT GTA 6 TOY STORY EDITION:

In a bid for immortality all the former members of the NPG are scanned by a Scottish AI Robot sent from California to immortalize Prince in a 3D Mesh of himself having the keys to his own vault.

Various members of the International Space Station are in shock as both Mohammed and Jesus manifest and take control of this post form.

JESUS: "Left a bit"

MOHAMMED: "Right a bit"

HIDEO KOJIMA: "Let me take control of Princes vault for a bit, what we did was we hunted all the tuna to extinction and put them in little tins."

BEEP

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Reply #38 posted 11/19/15 12:54am

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callimnate said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Is that trooper in the front drunk?

lol lol

I wanna know where this is from!!

(And before you say Star Wars.............................. you know what I mean)

Star Wars blooper reel lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #39 posted 11/19/15 7:28am

Stimpy

Polo1026 said:

Stimpy said:

The more loyal and fanatic the fan the more you should reject his iron-fist control of the material.

Oh I know that he has the LEGAL RIGHT and an army of lawyers but THIS STUFF BELONGS TO ART AND THE WORLD--it is (and I am sure I am preaching to the choir here) TOO IMPORTANT to sit in a vault and rot because its creator is vain or greedy or feels paternal about it.

My life would have been LESS INTERESTING (by a fair bit) if I had not heard Small Club or Dance to the Desert Groove or Montreaux 2008 or on and on.

they have inspired me to CARE about playing guitar and been a constant background theme in my Man Cave.

I dont care who he is, if he doesn't understand that contraband=premium=MORE DEMAND then the hell with him.

His lawyers love it I have no doubt.

You want total control?

Play only for yourself.

He plays the music in his vault for HIMSELF. He's released albums and performed thousands of concerts for YOU. He is the creator of this art and ultimately he has the right to decide what to do with what he's created. It doesn't belong to the world or fans in any logical argument. You think for one second that YOU, who had nothing to do with the creation of this music, somehow love these songs MORE than the man that created the music? What kind of music colonialism is that?

he records the music in The Vault (most of which is his live performances, all of which are recorded) for himself that is true.

and he does own the "rights" to the music legally and, given the security at Paisley, practically.

as for the rest of your arguement, BS.

I DO LOVE THESE SONGS AS MUCH AS HE DOES.

More perhaps.

Colonialism?

Slavery more like.

maybe I will write it on my face.

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Reply #40 posted 11/19/15 4:02pm

luvsexy4all

he should use the vault to support himself ....and free up his mind to do even more...and not worry so much about any business aspect.....just create

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