Marco81 said:

dodger said:

Marco81 said:

I wish people who talk about reading interviews where Prince mentioned it to be 1 cd or 2 cds, would actually spend 5 to 10 mins looking for the article and posting the link here.

Otherwise it's just one of those myths, someone starts a rumour, which becomes "reality" in people's minds in 5 minutes.

Sources please!

I don't have a link or remember which interview it was but I'm 100% he said last year while showing a journalist round PP, the remaster would have no extras and it was for the fans and people who like to look back etc . If that is the case there's no point in WB releasing it. The sound quality of PR is OK so I wouldn't be rushing to buy a new 1. Of course it would be a different story with SOTT...

WRONG.

IIRC Prince's quote was more or less "what's the big deal, it's the same album" and people here JUMPED on this and decided that it meant no bonus material.

"it's the same album" doesn't mean "no bonus material", this is just everyone putting some additional meaning to a statement that basically doesn't tell us anything at all about the content.

It may mean no bonus material, but it may just mean Prince was talking about the big deal people make of remasters regardless of any possible bonus material.

Pentacle said:

highcalonic said:

When there's good news, i know it fast usually. But, for now, no call...

That's a real shame...

And you don't know how WB reacted to Prince 'delivering' only the one cd?

Their reaction was that they stopped working on the project. I can understand both sides.

databank said:

databank said:

highcalonic said:

Pentacle said:

That's a real shame...

And you don't know how WB reacted to Prince 'delivering' only the one cd?

Their reaction was that they stopped working on the project. I can understand both sides.

You mean you understand Prince not wanting to give outtakes...?

^ We don't know what Prince meant, period. We can speculate on the meaning of an ambiguous statement as long as we want, fact is that he didn't say anything clearly and that interpretation isn't quote.

I'm sure we all know we were getting no outtakes dont we?

If its been Remastered in Prince's studios by whomever he is using to master his tracks, are people even that bothered?

As his mastering over the years hasn't been the greatest, even on the last few albums.

Download the HD Tracks version, it sounds better than the original slightly.

Pentacle said:

highcalonic said:

Their reaction was that they stopped working on the project. I can understand both sides.

You mean you understand Prince not wanting to give outtakes...?

Yes. Because he's not at the same place now and if i was him, i would not be glad to released some unfinished songs. And, on the Warner side, it doesn't make sense to sell another version of PR only because of the "better" sound.

It's really hard NOT to hate being a Prince fan. He's the biggest douche in the business toward fans

I'm sorry, but it's beyond foolish to continue to make lame ass excuses for Prince's antics! How come every other artist don't seem to have any problem putting out remasters of their earlier work, but ALWAYS Prince has problems with this. The answer is sooo obvious...because it's HIS doing! Prince has an track record of not honoring contracts with record companies, and his outright refusal to give his fans what they want. For instance, remember when Prince said he was gonna release that "Essential Live Concert DVD"? Gee...guess what...it never f-in happened! We're talking about a person who starts and deletes all of his social media accounts, just because he can. At this point....Prince can just keep his music, no one really cares anymore.

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Scarfo said:

I'm sorry, but it's beyond foolish to continue to make lame ass excuses for Prince's antics! How come every other artist don't seem to have any problem putting out remasters of their earlier work, but ALWAYS Prince has problems with this. The answer is sooo obvious...because it's HIS doing! Prince has an track record of not honoring contracts with record companies, and his outright refusal to give his fans what they want. For instance, remember when Prince said he was gonna release that "Essential Live Concert DVD"? Gee...guess what...it never f-in happened! We're talking about a person who starts and deletes all of his social media accounts, just because he can. At this point....Prince can just keep his music, no one really cares anymore.

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So true. I haven't legally purchased a Prince record since 3121 and I'm really only a fan of his WB albums. Quality Control went out the window after that.

fnksoul said:

Download the HD Tracks version, it sounds better than the original slightly.

Is this a legal release?

highcalonic said:

Pentacle said:

You mean you understand Prince not wanting to give outtakes...?

Yes. Because he's not at the same place now and if i was him, i would not be glad to released some unfinished songs. And, on the Warner side, it doesn't make sense to sell another version of PR only because of the "better" sound.

Yes, but

a) he doesn't have to promote it, it will promote itself

b) he must realize these songs have artistic value
maybe he even realizes, as some of us certainly do, that his new work has little to no value
but that's not important: an artist, proud of his work, would want to share this and let it be heard -
for the art's sake

JediMaster said:

fnksoul said:

Download the HD Tracks version, it sounds better than the original slightly.

Is this a legal release?

It was being sold openly on their Website for some time, then after the news of the Remasters Warner Brothers asked them to stop selling, I assume they had some authorization at the time to be doing so as it is a legitimate website.


You'll have to find it by other means' now though.

Prince tried, but everytime he called the Warner people, they were at the beach.

VelvetKittyKat said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Kcool..... please... express yourself...?


I have no idea who u are talking to, or what u are trying to say with just that 1 emoticon....???

Are u sure you can't express yourself a little better.. peace....

thedance said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Kcool..... please... express yourself...?


I have no idea who u are talking to, or what u are trying to say with just that 1 emoticon....???

Are u sure you can't express yourself a little better.. peace....

Please don't temp him.

VelvetKittyKat said:

KingSausage said:

highcalonic said:

The one who told me months ago that Prince delivered only the original PR still works at Warner.

Oh well,screw it.I don't care anymore.I'm too busy enjoying my 21-disc Isley Brothers box set filled with alot of bonus tracks,including a previously unreleased live album from 1980! Other artists and bands know exactly what their diehard fans want and they deliver!!

SoulAlive said:

highcalonic said:

Pentacle said:

That's a real shame...

And you don't know how WB reacted to Prince 'delivering' only the one cd?

Their reaction was that they stopped working on the project. I can understand both sides.

This is pretty much what I suspected had happened. I also think it's fairly likely that the remastering wasn't very good if Prince did it himself. It doesn't exactly seem to be something he's very good at. So there's no real reason why Warners would want to release a remaster that sounds worse than the original and contains no bonus material.

It really saddens me. I don't believe that vault material will ever be released in Prince's lifetime, which probably means it won't be released in mine either.

I don't believe in all this "no point in looking back" stuff though. I think that deep down, in that place where he doesn't want to look, Prince knows damn well that the music he makes now is hugely inferior to the music he made in the 80s. I believe that he thinks releasing vault material would be an admission of the fact that his creative well is dry.

"My only competition is, well me in the past."

massing said:

highcalonic said:

Their reaction was that they stopped working on the project. I can understand both sides.

Prince knows damn well that the music he makes now is hugely inferior to the music he made in the 80s.

Who said this to you, P. himself ?