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Reply #30 posted 10/26/15 7:48am

BartVanHemelen

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Bluu said:

It's a historical fact he was much more involved in writing music and lyrics for the Time than the liner notes stated on those albums,

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Which has been common knowledge for three decades. This was never much of a secret. Now, Prince's involvement in Sheila E.'s second album, there is something that was disputed for a long time, and it wasn't settled until Uptown did some in-depth research.

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Reply #31 posted 10/26/15 8:47am

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"The first time I went over there, there was no agenda or talk of a record; just jamming on stuff. A Thursday in, he asked me to play some of my songs and he would come up with these cool arrangements for these songs I had already written"

http://www.billboard.com/...-back-time

U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
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Reply #32 posted 10/26/15 8:50am

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From what I can tell if what Judith has said, she wrote the lyrics to the songs. Maybe with some co-writing help, but she said they would go in and jam on lyrics she had prepared and Prince would flesh a song out of it from what I recall. The writer of the lyrics aren't really my concern tho...its the players and whatnot. I would suspect MonoNeon played bass on As Trains Go By. I can hear Princes co-lead or backing vox. The title track, Back In Time, to me, sounds like Prince showing Josh how to do 'josh'. Pure speculation, but I don't think Josh worked on this at all, but the track shares elements from AOA but sounds better put together than anything else on it. It's sound is better balanced. I'd guess that Judith played piano on Cry Cry Cry. It seems to me she wrote the lyrics as well...doesn't seem like princes M. O. Mostly, I guess the stage performers are the performers on record...KJ on drums...mono-neon and Prince on bass and chunky white dude and Prince on guitar depending on P's mood ... Again...I know nothing...its pure speculation... I just wish this nickel would put production credits on his releases. He has absolutely no continuity to his game plan. Some have lyrics...some don't...some list players, some don't. Nickle...just act right and get your shit together. Ure to old for this b.s. u know people wanna know....stop playing games... I was hoping with the official tidal release, it would have said info under 'track info'...but no, nothing....apparently ghosts made it.

Angel In The Dark sounds like it may have had some input from Josh - pure speculation again.

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Everything else has a nice live/organic sound to it. Love Trip and Wild Tonight are stand-outs for me.

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Reply #33 posted 10/27/15 9:56am

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BobGeorge909 said:

And I miss the DTT. I was trying to get some help with the lyrics....but since P prolly didn't write them, people don't care. It's very difficult for me, for some reason, to follow the lyrics while listening to the song, without having them written out. Whenever I can manage to read the lyrics while listening to the tune, it will have MUCH more impact than with me just listening to it. Without seeing the words, my brain seems to get sidetracked in the music and I lose focus in what's being said. I wrote out the lyrics to Back In Time and flippin teared up!



I miss DTT too. For a while I was tagging my Prince songs with lyrics in iTunes. I don't think I made it out of the "B"s though.

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Reply #34 posted 10/29/15 5:10pm

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dodger said:



BobGeorge909 said:


From what I can tell if what Judith has said, she wrote the lyrics to the songs. Maybe with some co-writing help, but she said they would go in and jam on lyrics she had prepared and Prince would flesh a song out of it from what I recall. The writer of the lyrics aren't really my concern tho...its the players and whatnot. I would suspect MonoNeon played bass on As Trains Go By. I can hear Princes co-lead or backing vox. The title track, Back In Time, to me, sounds like Prince showing Josh how to do 'josh'. Pure speculation, but I don't think Josh worked on this at all, but the track shares elements from AOA but sounds better put together than anything else on it. It's sound is better balanced. I'd guess that Judith played piano on Cry Cry Cry. It seems to me she wrote the lyrics as well...doesn't seem like princes M. O. Mostly, I guess the stage performers are the performers on record...KJ on drums...mono-neon and Prince on bass and chunky white dude and Prince on guitar depending on P's mood ... Again...I know nothing...its pure speculation... I just wish this nickel would put production credits on his releases. He has absolutely no continuity to his game plan. Some have lyrics...some don't...some list players, some don't. Nickle...just act right and get your shit together. Ure to old for this b.s. u know people wanna know....stop playing games... I was hoping with the official tidal release, it would have said info under 'track info'...but no, nothing....apparently ghosts made it.

Angel In The Dark sounds like it may have had some input from Josh - pure speculation again.


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Everything else has a nice live/organic sound to it. Love Trip and Wild Tonight are stand-outs for me.


My standouts r, in order of preference, As Trains Go By, Back In Time, My People, Turn It Up, Cry Cry Cry.

Friggin back in time is perfect... If I'm un/lucky and can read along with the lyrics, my dumb ass will choke up.


Edit:

if I had the power
to travel back in time
I would go back to the day
when we both were nine

on your bedroom dresser
I'd leave my picture behind
then I'd come back here
and wait for you to find me

back in time

if I had some magic
that could set you free
I'd make you not love her
any more as much you love me

I'd send her on a journey
accross the yellow sea
nothing should be closer
than you and me

back in time

high up in the mountain
our hearts up on a shelf
I'm settling on the notion
of being all by myself

if I had the power
to travel back in time
to the day before the
two of y'all met
I'd somehow make you mine.
[Edited 10/29/15 17:12pm]
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Reply #35 posted 10/29/15 5:39pm

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Well a lot of it was already written. I was down at Paisley Park and just jammed with him, so he got to hear a lot of the songs and came up with some cool arrangements. It just happened organically, whereby we recorded the arrangements with live musicians.


"Well, when I originally wrote the material the songs were in different forms. The songs were already produced and done up. For example, there was a song called Beautiful Life that I wrote and I just had a set of chords that I'd used to perform, play and sing that song, but Prince suggested that I should picture the song in a big stadium. He told me to change the chords to major chords, which opened up the whole thing and brought a kind of simplicity to it.

"What I learned about working with him is that he writes and produces every song as if he was going to perform it live in a big show. So with that in mind, we recorded the songs in that range and it was cool to see him take some of the songs I already had and make them bigger."

"A lot of the songs stayed as I wrote them, but for some of them we did rewrite the lyrics or wrote them together from scratch, so it was a combination from that point of view.
Prince did an interview with a woman at Record World. They talked about whatever, then he asked her: "Does your pubic hair go up to your navel?" At that moment, we thought maybe we shouldn't encourage him to do interviews.
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