http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/09/24/pop-music-prince-a-fatality-with-hitnrun-gaga-ignores-hunting-ground-song-one-direction-hits-infinity

Prince has struck out with his strangely released “HitNRun.” It’s number 13 on the iTunes R&B albums chart. It’s nowhere on the top 100. Prince put the album on Jay Z’s Tidal HiFi streaming service, which few have or know about. Then he put it on iTunes for downloading, but no one’s really working it. The album will be remembered as an actual hit and run. Couldn’t he have just released it normally through Warner Music?

It is strange that Prince does nothing to promote his music any more. He very clearly does not care about commercial success, because he surely knows, as we do, that you have to promote the albums to make them successful. Well, if Prince don't care then I don't care either.

linus4000 said:

http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/09/24/pop-music-prince-a-fatality-with-hitnrun-gaga-ignores-hunting-ground-song-one-direction-hits-infinity

Prince has struck out with his strangely released “HitNRun.” It’s number 13 on the iTunes R&B albums chart. It’s nowhere on the top 100. Prince put the album on Jay Z’s Tidal HiFi streaming service, which few have or know about. Then he put it on iTunes for downloading, but no one’s really working it. The album will be remembered as an actual hit and run. Couldn’t he have just released it normally through Warner Music?

This was a deal to increase Tidal awareness using Prince influence and legendary status. Prince did this for promotional awareness of his music and where to get it.

Tidal is streaming more obscure stuff not available in a long time. This is a win for Prince, it was promotional all the way around. If he wanted album sales(CDs) to sale at a higher number all he had to do was go on some shows to promote. I think the physical release was to please the fans and to grab some more cash to cover the bills. The main thing is his older music and some more obscure music is available on Tidal.

kewlschool said:

linus4000 said:

http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/09/24/pop-music-prince-a-fatality-with-hitnrun-gaga-ignores-hunting-ground-song-one-direction-hits-infinity

Prince has struck out with his strangely released “HitNRun.” It’s number 13 on the iTunes R&B albums chart. It’s nowhere on the top 100. Prince put the album on Jay Z’s Tidal HiFi streaming service, which few have or know about. Then he put it on iTunes for downloading, but no one’s really working it. The album will be remembered as an actual hit and run. Couldn’t he have just released it normally through Warner Music?

This was a deal to increase Tidal awareness using Prince influence and legendary status. Prince did this for promotional awareness of his music and where to get it.

Tidal is streaming more obscure stuff not available in a long time. This is a win for Prince, it was promotional all the way around. If he wanted album sales(CDs) to sale at a higher number all he had to do was go on some shows to promote. I think the physical release was to please the fans and to grab some more cash to cover the bills. The main thing is his older music and some more obscure music is available on Tidal.

Sounds right. This one was just about Tidal and streaming of his more obscure staff.

Therefore no real big promotion activities...

Prince made a business decision to release his album on Tidal and was either convinced or paid enough money to not only release HitnRun on Tidal but also most of his catalog as well. The success or failure of it is totally dependent on whatever success Tidal is having for featuring Prince. For those of you who have any connections to RocNation or have been to their offices(a really great environment to hang out in for sure) they seem to be very upbeat about working with Prince going forward. What does that mean about Tidal? IDK can't say and can't speculate on the numbers but jsut from talking to people, more Prince/Tidal/RocNation projects are in the works. Prince fans here have usually been on top of the fact that charts are the like have been a useless data stream for almost a decade. Yet, they devalue they're professed favorite artist for not having chart topping records anymore. It's weird.

Polo1026 said:

Polo1026 said:

Prince made a business decision to release his album on Tidal and was either convinced or paid enough money to not only release HitnRun on Tidal but also most of his catalog as well. The success or failure of it is totally dependent on whatever success Tidal is having for featuring Prince. For those of you who have any connections to RocNation or have been to their offices(a really great environment to hang out in for sure) they seem to be very upbeat about working with Prince going forward. What does that mean about Tidal? IDK can't say and can't speculate on the numbers but jsut from talking to people, more Prince/Tidal/RocNation projects are in the works. Prince fans here have usually been on top of the fact that charts are the like have been a useless data stream for almost a decade. Yet, they devalue they're professed favorite artist for not having chart topping records anymore. It's weird.

http://www.showbiz411.com...s-infinity

I wonder if Josh will tweet this one out from the 3EG twitter feed? I guess not.

ShowBiz411.... always reads to me like they are in the pocket for certain entertainment industry lawyers. However, they can be highly accurate sometimes in terms of facts, just not so much their interpretation. That site, when it was still Fox though, was all over a lot of MJ scandals, long before they actually came to fruition. Typicaly they run praise pieces for new Prince albums, regardless of content. I think the bad press is more about TIDAL being a threat to the industry power structure.

The sad thing about the whole concept of releasing his album on TIDAL a STREAMING site...

People aren't even STREAMING this album... The streaming "sales" are already out of the TOP 100 on the second week, no one is buying nor streaming this "ALBUM".

funksterr said:

ShowBiz411.... always reads to me like they are in the pocket for certain entertainment industry lawyers. However, they can be highly accurate sometimes in terms of facts, just not so much their interpretation. That site, when it was still Fox though, was all over a lot of MJ scandals, long before they actually came to fruition. Typicaly they run praise pieces for new Prince albums, regardless of content. I think the bad press is more about TIDAL being a threat to the industry power structure.

Look at the way they've been trashing Janet Jackson's new project, and unlike Prince she's going all out with a world tour, music videos and the whole nine. Yet Showbiz411 has been relentlessly calling the project a flop and a failure (it hasn't been released yet) because it isn't from a major label. It's clear they're just a mouthpiece for the Clive Davis/Jimmy Iovine class, so fuck them.

redflag said:

HitNRun is awful. Janet new album is a bust. Jam & Lewis are burnt out. everything sounds uninspired

EnDoRpHn said:

redflag said:

Look at the way they've been trashing Janet Jackson's new project, and unlike Prince she's going all out with a world tour, music videos and the whole nine. Yet Showbiz411 has been relentlessly calling the project a flop and a failure (it hasn't been released yet) because it isn't from a major label. It's clear they're just a mouthpiece for the Clive Davis/Jimmy Iovine class, so fuck them.

Finally someone with some sense around here. Prince is never going to have a "hit" album again, at least not in the sense that any of you talk about it. The entire music industry, from the record companies to the radio stations, is an oligopoly. Only a handful of companies control the manufacture, production and broadcast of popular music in the U.S., and they do it for their exclusive benefit via ownership of copyright, licensing and royalties. For over 20 years, Prince has fought an uphill battle for artists to be the ones who are rewarded most, in an industry where record companies have historically garnered and retained the lion's share of the profits. That is why Prince is routinely panned, reviled and disparaged as a weirdo and a crank. That he has managed to continue making music on (mostly) his own terms is a pretty remarkable feat. Instead of b*tching about how little of it sees the light of day, you are free to enjoy it (or not), to mash it up, re-arrange it on your iPod playlists and PCs, or ignore it. Why anyone needs to have their personal musical preferences validated by mass media culture is beyond me. [Edited 9/27/15 18:05pm]

I feel like he is just letting Josh take over the majority of the stuff regarding promotion. And it's funny that everyone thinks that is Prince who tweets out reviews. It is clearly not. I also don't think Prince gives a shit. He creates art. Some of his art gets heard by millions and some gets heard by thousands. But at the end of the day he has too much money to give two fucks about creating a hit.

EnDoRpHn said: