Based on the original yestion... YES,... because most people who appreciate music aren't stuck in 1984.

Yes.

Next question.

My interest ended when GB was released.. 1990?

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

I hate when Prince says things like that I recall,in the late 90s,he mentioned a big album he was working on called The Dawn,but he implied that it was too much for the world to handle (or something to that effect).

Please,Prince....let US be the judge of that!! Stop holding back all of that 'amazing' music!! lol

I remember reading that interview. I thought it was something recently made around 2009

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The Divine is an unreleased song recorded in 1996 at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA (during sessions for the Emancipation album). Eric Leeds added saxophone overdubs on 14 August, 1996, also at Paisley Park Studios. The song is believed to have been intended for Emancipation, but was not included on any known configurations. In a 2008 interview with USA Today (primarily designed to promote the 21 Nights book), Prince played the interviewer several tracks from his next album Lotusflow3r, and mentioned, but declined to play, a song called The Divine, described as "a song so "mind-blowing" he doubts he'll ever release it." It is not clear if this is the same track recorded in 1996 or not, however. The track remains unreleased-PrinceVault

judging by the fact that he is a willow smith fan and thinks his best song is always the next one... i wouldnt take princes word on the divine

NouveauDance said:

It would certainly be interesting to see what he chose not to put on an album. When for ever toe-curling EDM track that found it's way to daylight there might be a lush heart-breaking piano ballad or a simple acoustic number withering away in a dark corner of PP.

That is probably the case. Perhaps even more so in the 90's and 00's when Prince struggled to follow trends in the music he released which suggest to me that there might be some quite different music tucked away in the vault.

Are we operating that the vault from this time period also consists of video (concerts, music videos, projects)... then Absolutely. Prince's released recorded material may have waned in the past 20 years (opinion) but he is still arguably one of the most talented live musicisians of this generation. There are certainly live performances that we would all love to experience from this time period.

We dont here that much anymore about the stuff he DIDN'T make, or alyernative album configurations, which doesn't mean there aren't tonnes of aborted album or tracks put in the vault still. The Divine, a track he put away a few years ago sounds pretty cool. And there's some stuff like re-recordings, remember that absurdly tight funky new Sexy MF he did in 2007, with the 'everybody dance now' sample, Maceo all over it... And then there's all the concerts he's filmed etc.

I'd say the modern era vault stuff is just as good, but it depends whether you like his work as a whole or just like the 80's or 90's stuff. I tend to like pretty much everything he's done, i'm loving Hit n Run. I just think it's a cool little funky album that sounds so good on big big speakers.

So i'm fairly interested in the vault stuff from Rave onwards.

Rebeljuice said:

Here we are, his fans, banging on at him to release the vault when Prince is thinking you already have half of it on bootlegs you mother furthas, all that music that I was letting simmer and mature for use in the future is gone. Dead and buried because it leaked and now youve heard it. Its mystery and magic stolen away. I had years and years of material lined up for future use and its dead and buried! Rave? NPS? Emancipation? Planet Earth? Think how good they could have been if I had all those great songs to choose from!.... Holy ducking ship! They could have been masterpeices!.... And the stuff you didnt get your grimey, shippy hands on that you have never heard? I AM releasing it you sick ducks!.... I release it all the time! You can hear it on the albums I release, you just dont know what is from the vault and what is new. THATS whats in the vault! Stuff that is unfinished or waiting for an album suited to it. Thats what the vault is for Gosh Darn It! You will get it ALL eventually, just let these songs breathe and find a home! Ducking Bell, you fans like to break my testacles...

Is that you, Prince? .

I suspect this is closer to the truth than many think. I wouldn't be at all surprised if many of the 'new' songs he's released in the last decade or so aren't reworked/ completed material from earlier years.

My guess is, at his age, the (good) new songs aren't coming to him so fast as they did. It's a common thing with older, previously prolific artists. Look at Stevie Wonder. Prince probably has the occasional explosion of creativity, as in 2001-03 and again in 2005-06 (Lotusflower stuff), but other than that, he's perhaps not always the best person to know what of his new stuff is good enough to release and what ain't. Being too close to the 'explosion', as it were.

So yeah, I bet there's a great album's worth of unreleased music we've never heard of from 2004 to today.

Dilan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I remember reading that interview. I thought it was something recently made around 2009

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The Divine is an unreleased song recorded in 1996 at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA (during sessions for the Emancipation album). Eric Leeds added saxophone overdubs on 14 August, 1996, also at Paisley Park Studios. The song is believed to have been intended for Emancipation, but was not included on any known configurations. In a 2008 interview with USA Today (primarily designed to promote the 21 Nights book), Prince played the interviewer several tracks from his next album Lotusflow3r, and mentioned, but declined to play, a song called The Divine, described as "a song so "mind-blowing" he doubts he'll ever release it." It is not clear if this is the same track recorded in 1996 or not, however. The track remains unreleased-PrinceVault

judging by the fact that he is a willow smith fan and thinks his best song is always the next one... i wouldnt take princes word on the divine

I want to believe, I need to believe he holds the really good stuff back...

McD said:

I'd be curious, but not overly bothered. Here's the difference between Vault expectations from the 'great period' and more recently (although I'd date the collapse later than 1995). 1. We KNOW a shitload of Vault tracks exist until '95. We can't be certain of the remainder. 2. We KNOW the Vault tracks from his best period include tons of great stuff. We know nothing of the remainder. 3. We KNOW the golden period of The Vault was matched by arguably the greatest run of official release in rock history. The subsequent official releases have fallen a long way, and there's no reason to believe that a hypothetical vault of any significant size from this period would buck the trend.

Someone from Prince's camp told me in a private convo that P's kept recording as much stuff as ever until now.

Yes, even the shit ones.

paulludvig said:

NouveauDance said:

It would certainly be interesting to see what he chose not to put on an album. When for ever toe-curling EDM track that found it's way to daylight there might be a lush heart-breaking piano ballad or a simple acoustic number withering away in a dark corner of PP.

That is probably the case. Perhaps even more so in the 90's and 00's when Prince struggled to follow trends in the music he released which suggest to me that there might be some quite different music tucked away in the vault.

That's a good point. Wasn't it Michael Koppelman who said Prince routinely locked away superior material than what he was releasing?

I´d love to see him release more unedited, unchanged vault material and ESPECIALLY stuff that was recorded after 1995 because at that point he had gotten rid of some of the staff that was responsible for the leaks, so even though I´m more into his older stuff, it is the newer stuff I´m curious about because we know very little about his post-1996 material.

KoolEaze said:

Aerogram said:

avasdad said:

not sure what makes me a Prince snob...because my opinion is that the quality of his music has declined dramatically in that last 20 years...which is true... and most music that didnt make the cut was put in the vault...it would be in lesser quality and musical appeal...

You're like "let's keep it real folks", your post is predicted on your opinion that there can be nothing of value. So you're daring people to have the "bad taste" of being curious. Few people deny the quality of released music is lower, but that doesn't mean he did not shelve something interesting, for whatever reason. There's been lots of tracks that should have been released and were not historically, so I would not be so categorical personally, since you asked.

not daring anything...merely asking what music were you interested in hearing during that era... i guess you have nothing...

skywalker said:

avasdad said:

not sure what makes me a Prince snob...because my opinion is that the quality of his music has declined dramatically in that last 20 years...which is true... and most music that didnt make the cut was put in the vault...it would be in lesser quality and musical appeal...

Did you really just say that your opinion is actually a true fact?

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Like "jughead" (because it is pre-1995) is a better song than "3121" (because it is post 1995)?

not sure where you going with this Luke....

skywalker said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think a lot of stuff that didn't make the album from 1978-1989
was not because it was lesser quality (1978-1986) more specifically

but that he just had to much good stuff and not enough albums to put it out on

Maybe. I like the b-sides from Around the World in a Day better than most of what is on the album.

i will agree with that... B sides in the 80s IMO where better than the singles...

SoulAlive said:

xpertluva said:

This reminds me, who remembers the track called "The Divine" that Prince mentioned around the time of Lotusflower? I believe he said that it was too mind-blowing to ever release. Well, I'd to take the chance of having my mind blown!

I hate when Prince says things like that I recall,in the late 90s,he mentioned a big album he was working on called The Dawn,but he implied that it was too much for the world to handle (or something to that effect).

Please,Prince....let US be the judge of that!! Stop holding back all of that 'amazing' music!! lol

in all seriousness....has Prince EVER released something mind blowing since the mid 90s?? I think not...

datdude said:

yes... moving on now.

ps.

ok, HOW do you understand the artistic process? does it have an expiration date? can past accomplishments inspire the present, be surpassed, romanticized? if one has DONE "it" b4, can they (the same person) do "it" again or naw? are you proposing that YOUR "end date" (1995) be adapted universally in the purple kingdom?

you are thinking to hard here friend... let me rephrase...given the option of listening to vault music from 1978 to 1995 or vault music from 1996 to 2015...what would you lsten to?

Cerebus said:

avasdad said:

not sure what makes me a Prince snob...because my opinion is that the quality of his music has declined dramatically in that last 20 years...which is true... and most music that didnt make the cut was put in the vault...it would be in lesser quality and musical appeal...

First of all, no. That's your opinion and not everyone is going to share it. Have you ever considered that some people weren't even listening to Prince 20 or more years ago?

Second... how long you been listening to Prince mang? Because that last bit is just like, nah bruh. Nah.

no asking for people to share my opinion..just asking for thiers...understand?

not sure what "mang" means... but to answer your question... since 1987 as a fan...which might be longer than some people on the org have been alive...your point?

databank said:

avasdad said:

let's keep real folks...musically, Prince music has not been all that great, declining sales, limited radio play, no videos and his continuing "dicking" of his fans... his albums since TGE have been for the most part weak...so any music that he's put in the vault since then I would only guess would be of the same caliber...

Prince needs to digitize his music in the vault...put in a cataloge and follow an Itunes method of getting to the fans and knock off this dumb shit Tidal...let his fans pick whatever he's recorded...fans get what they want and the purple prick gets paid. done and done.

This dishonest sentence (in bold) has been overused, implies dishonesty and isn't allowed on the org anymore, sorry.

And this is anyway the weekly Prince is over and done thread in a lame attempt of disguise

I say +

Thx.

[Edited 9/24/15 1:51am]

you're thinking to hard friend... do u have thoughts on the post?

databank said:

daveonsale said:

avasdad said: Tired about these subjects!!!

I still don't understand why the mods don't lock those weekly Prince is over and done threads.

It's just visual pollution...

change the channel databank.....

McD said:

I'd be curious, but not overly bothered. Here's the difference between Vault expectations from the 'great period' and more recently (although I'd date the collapse later than 1995). 1. We KNOW a shitload of Vault tracks exist until '95. We can't be certain of the remainder. 2. We KNOW the Vault tracks from his best period include tons of great stuff. We know nothing of the remainder. 3. We KNOW the golden period of The Vault was matched by arguably the greatest run of official release in rock history. The subsequent official releases have fallen a long way, and there's no reason to believe that a hypothetical vault of any significant size from this period would buck the trend.

thank you for the best response in this post...

avasdad said:

databank said:

This dishonest sentence (in bold) has been overused, implies dishonesty and isn't allowed on the org anymore, sorry.

And this is anyway the weekly Prince is over and done thread in a lame attempt of disguise

I say +

Thx.

[Edited 9/24/15 1:51am]

you're thinking to hard friend... do u have thoughts on the post?

Yes, I do. I just wish u'd have phrased ur OP with more intellectual honesty. Asking for that isn't overthinking in my world.

My interest regarding vault material is just as high for post 1995 than for pre 1995, similarly to my interest for released material being as high for post 1995 as for pre 1995.

I like Prince's music, not Prince's music in the 80's.

[Edited 9/24/15 20:12pm]

Considering that some of his funkiest b-sides that barely got a release came from the vault. Yes. I bet there's a ton of great songs he decided to sit on.

databank said:

avasdad said:

Cerebus said:

First of all, no. That's your opinion and not everyone is going to share it. Have you ever considered that some people weren't even listening to Prince 20 or more years ago?

Second... how long you been listening to Prince mang? Because that last bit is just like, nah bruh. Nah.

no asking for people to share my opinion..just asking for thiers...understand?

not sure what "mang" means... but to answer your question... since 1987 as a fan...which might be longer than some people on the org have been alive...your point?

Oh yes, I understand your kind very well, thank you.

My point is that you have no point and are making no sense. People keep telling you they want to hear UNRELEASED music post-1995 and you keep asking what they want to hear from "that era". The songs are unreleased, mang, that's what we want to hear. Your question has been answered over and over, mang, but for whatever reason you seem to be in complete disbelief. I'd be willing to bet there are still MANY more Prince fans intetested in vault material (or any era) than there are interested in his new releases. It's always been that way and it will remain that way. You've been given our opinions, that you don't share it matters not... mang.

Yes, I want everything.

epronk said:

Just after the release of LotusFlower I read an interview with Michael B about a sinlge session with Sonny T and Prince where most of the album was recorded. I want a "LotusFlower - The Complete Sessions" disc set.

bluegangsta said:

Absolutely. The late 2005 - 2006 session that gave rise to 3121 and Lotusflower would be great to hear.

That's what I would be most interested in from the past 20 years.

Cerebus said:

avasdad said:

no asking for people to share my opinion..just asking for thiers...understand?

not sure what "mang" means... but to answer your question... since 1987 as a fan...which might be longer than some people on the org have been alive...your point?

Oh yes, I understand your kind very well, thank you.

My point is that you have no point and are making no sense. People keep telling you they want to hear UNRELEASED music post-1995 and you keep asking what they want to hear from "that era". The songs are unreleased, mang, that's what we want to hear. Your question has been answered over and over, mang, but for whatever reason you seem to be in complete disbelief. I'd be willing to bet there are still MANY more Prince fans intetested in vault material (or any era) than there are interested in his new releases. It's always been that way and it will remain that way. You've been given our opinions, that you don't share it matters not... mang.

my kind? Haha that's funny... let me break it down for you... r u interested in vault music in Prince's vault after 1995??? I am going to assume..yes. Now is there something in particular that you want to hear? for example, I heard there was a classical album in there, along with an album with Miles Davis and a version of "like a prayer" that interests me... Is there anything along those lines that interest you? Your point above is spot on! That is me!