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Thread started 09/19/15 12:04pm

2freaky4church
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Put out 30 Vault songs a week on Tidal.

30 a week, whatcha all think? Have a special side site.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 09/19/15 12:14pm

Aerogram

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2freaky4church1 said:

30 a week, whatcha all think? Have a special side site.

[Edited 9/19/15 13:13pm]

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Reply #2 posted 09/19/15 1:03pm

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I'd renew my subscription if he did that.
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Reply #3 posted 09/19/15 1:37pm

funksterr

WB would have to approve so Jay-Z would have to reach deeper into his pockets for that to happen.

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Reply #4 posted 09/19/15 1:42pm

McD

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Yep, would keep paying £26 a month for that. Or for the three or four years it lasts, anyway.
[Edited 9/19/15 13:43pm]
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Reply #5 posted 09/19/15 2:40pm

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McD said:

Yep, would keep paying £26 a month for that. Or for the three or four years it lasts, anyway. [Edited 9/19/15 13:43pm]

Years? You mean days!

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Reply #6 posted 09/19/15 10:59pm

trax

A song a week is fine with me. Thats 52 songs a year or 5 albums!! That would be AWESOME!! Actually though I wish he had his own website and sold them for $.99 each though instead of tidal.If he had 10,000 downloads per week worldwide which is very reasonable that $514,800 per year and I think he would have more than 10,000 per week worldwide.

[Edited 9/19/15 23:03pm]

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Reply #7 posted 09/20/15 12:06am

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trax said:

A song a week is fine with me. Thats 52 songs a year or 5 albums!! That would be AWESOME!! Actually though I wish he had his own website and sold them for $.99 each though instead of tidal.If he had 10,000 downloads per week worldwide which is very reasonable that $514,800 per year and I think he would have more than 10,000 per week worldwide.

[Edited 9/19/15 23:03pm]


A song a week? Yes, like Stare and the Golden Hippie you mean?

10,000 a year is probably more realistic. Unless he releases 10,000 songs. Which perhaps he could.

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Reply #8 posted 09/20/15 12:11am

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He can't just pop a song out in the vault. It's on old Ampex tapes and has to mixed first. The tape has to be baked and hope the tape binding didn't turn into mush

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Reply #9 posted 09/20/15 12:35am

Pentacle

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He can't just pop a song out in the vault. It's on old Ampex tapes and has to mixed first. The tape has to be baked and hope the tape binding didn't turn into mush


Then he needs to put in THE WORK HITNRUN PART 1

And he's only had how many years to prepare for this?

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Reply #10 posted 09/20/15 1:06am

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SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

He can't just pop a song out in the vault. It's on old Ampex tapes and has to mixed first. The tape has to be baked and hope the tape binding didn't turn into mush

Let's not forget the entire song would also be reworked musically, vocally, and all swears words will turn to into duck, itch, brass, or just silenced out completey........

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Reply #11 posted 09/20/15 2:08am

Pentacle

leadline said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

He can't just pop a song out in the vault. It's on old Ampex tapes and has to mixed first. The tape has to be baked and hope the tape binding didn't turn into mush

Let's not forget the entire song would also be reworked musically, vocally, and all swears words will turn to into duck, itch, brass, or just silenced out completey........


He's got Josh for that now.

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Reply #12 posted 09/20/15 8:41am

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funksterr said:

WB would have to approve so Jay-Z would have to reach deeper into his pockets for that to happen.

We don't know that.

The status of WB years vault material under the new deal remains unknown.

Anyway the WB albums are on Tidal so if WB can have a share on those they can have on other stuff.

+ ur comment is nonsense anyway, if Wb is entitled to distribution rights for vault material, Prince would have to share a share with WB but Tidal wouldn't have to pay more.

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Reply #13 posted 09/20/15 8:50am

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SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

He can't just pop a song out in the vault. It's on old Ampex tapes and has to mixed first. The tape has to be baked and hope the tape binding didn't turn into mush

Most stuff was mixed down to a two-track once the session was finished.

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Reply #14 posted 09/20/15 9:12am

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2freaky4church1 said:

30 a week, whatcha all think? Have a special side site.


I think we have a better chance of looking up and seeing...

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #15 posted 09/20/15 9:25am

Guitarhero

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

2freaky4church1 said:

30 a week, whatcha all think? Have a special side site.


I think we have a better chance of looking up and seeing...

lol

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Reply #16 posted 09/20/15 11:23am

funksterr

databank said:

funksterr said:

WB would have to approve so Jay-Z would have to reach deeper into his pockets for that to happen.

We don't know that.

The status of WB years vault material under the new deal remains unknown.

Anyway the WB albums are on Tidal so if WB can have a share on those they can have on other stuff.

+ ur comment is nonsense anyway, if Wb is entitled to distribution rights for vault material, Prince would have to share a share with WB but Tidal wouldn't have to pay more.

BWAHAHA!!!!! Like Prince is going to actually pay his share, just because, ya know, he's supposed to!

HAHAHAHA! That's why I said Jay, was going to have to check his couch cushions for more coins, because to get a deal done, he would have to assume whatever costs Prince was facing. It's unlikely as hell, that Prince is going to pay a label ANYTHING out of his end of the deal. That appears to be the issue that led him from remastered cd's with outtakes through WB, to simply remastered Purple Rain with NO outtakes on WB by Christmas 2014, to part-owner of Tidal and streaming his entire catalog.

I don't believe Prince would need WB's consent to stream his albums in their original configuration. Outtakes may be another story. The fact that he continues to release re-recordings of the outtakes, and not the original versions, just as he was doing previous to his new deal with WB last year, looks to me like, the outtakes can't be released without going through WB first.

If that's the case Prince is going to want another one of them fat advance checks!

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Reply #17 posted 09/20/15 12:14pm

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funksterr said:

databank said:

We don't know that.

The status of WB years vault material under the new deal remains unknown.

Anyway the WB albums are on Tidal so if WB can have a share on those they can have on other stuff.

+ ur comment is nonsense anyway, if Wb is entitled to distribution rights for vault material, Prince would have to share a share with WB but Tidal wouldn't have to pay more.

BWAHAHA!!!!! Like Prince is going to actually pay his share, just because, ya know, he's supposed to!

HAHAHAHA! That's why I said Jay, was going to have to check his couch cushions for more coins, because to get a deal done, he would have to assume whatever costs Prince was facing. It's unlikely as hell, that Prince is going to pay a label ANYTHING out of his end of the deal. That appears to be the issue that led him from remastered cd's with outtakes through WB, to simply remastered Purple Rain with NO outtakes on WB by Christmas 2014, to part-owner of Tidal and streaming his entire catalog.

I don't believe Prince would need WB's consent to stream his albums in their original configuration. Outtakes may be another story. The fact that he continues to release re-recordings of the outtakes, and not the original versions, just as he was doing previous to his new deal with WB last year, looks to me like, the outtakes can't be released without going through WB first.

If that's the case Prince is going to want another one of them fat advance checks!

Tidal's WB albums, like on Itunes and everywhere before since the 2014 deal, are credited (p) NPG Records, Inc. under exclusive license to Warner Bros. Records Inc.

Obviously licencing deals nowadays include streaming as well as websites.

Militant would be more able than I to clear this though, since he's on a label: it's possible that having to credit the licence/ownership doesn't imply paying the label and that the money goes only to the artist in the case of streaming, but given how it's the record companies, not the artists, that got in legal disputes with sites such as Deezer, I doubt it. Streaming websites, oppositely to the radio, are direct competition to record sales, so it'd make sense that labels get their share.

As for whether Prince pays his share to WB (if the sites don't pay it directly to them), well obviously if he won't pay he'll get sued and he'll lose, so I don't really see what was the purpose of your post. It's not like Prince lives in Afghanistan, there are clear laws regarding those things in the United States and it's not like Prince can decide not to pay his share and get away with it if he's contractually obliged to do so.

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Reply #18 posted 09/20/15 12:57pm

funksterr

databank said:

funksterr said:

BWAHAHA!!!!! Like Prince is going to actually pay his share, just because, ya know, he's supposed to!

HAHAHAHA! That's why I said Jay, was going to have to check his couch cushions for more coins, because to get a deal done, he would have to assume whatever costs Prince was facing. It's unlikely as hell, that Prince is going to pay a label ANYTHING out of his end of the deal. That appears to be the issue that led him from remastered cd's with outtakes through WB, to simply remastered Purple Rain with NO outtakes on WB by Christmas 2014, to part-owner of Tidal and streaming his entire catalog.

I don't believe Prince would need WB's consent to stream his albums in their original configuration. Outtakes may be another story. The fact that he continues to release re-recordings of the outtakes, and not the original versions, just as he was doing previous to his new deal with WB last year, looks to me like, the outtakes can't be released without going through WB first.

If that's the case Prince is going to want another one of them fat advance checks!

Tidal's WB albums, like on Itunes and everywhere before since the 2014 deal, are credited (p) NPG Records, Inc. under exclusive license to Warner Bros. Records Inc.

Obviously licencing deals nowadays include streaming as well as websites.

Militant would be more able than I to clear this though, since he's on a label: it's possible that having to credit the licence/ownership doesn't imply paying the label and that the money goes only to the artist in the case of streaming, but given how it's the record companies, not the artists, that got in legal disputes with sites such as Deezer, I doubt it. Streaming websites, oppositely to the radio, are direct competition to record sales, so it'd make sense that labels get their share.

As for whether Prince pays his share to WB (if the sites don't pay it directly to them), well obviously if he won't pay he'll get sued and he'll lose, so I don't really see what was the purpose of your post. It's not like Prince lives in Afghanistan, there are clear laws regarding those things in the United States and it's not like Prince can decide not to pay his share and get away with it if he's contractually obliged to do so.

You are just rambling on and on. I've already made my point 3 times and you misunderstood it completely.

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Reply #19 posted 09/20/15 1:05pm

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funksterr said:

databank said:

Tidal's WB albums, like on Itunes and everywhere before since the 2014 deal, are credited (p) NPG Records, Inc. under exclusive license to Warner Bros. Records Inc.

Obviously licencing deals nowadays include streaming as well as websites.

Militant would be more able than I to clear this though, since he's on a label: it's possible that having to credit the licence/ownership doesn't imply paying the label and that the money goes only to the artist in the case of streaming, but given how it's the record companies, not the artists, that got in legal disputes with sites such as Deezer, I doubt it. Streaming websites, oppositely to the radio, are direct competition to record sales, so it'd make sense that labels get their share.

As for whether Prince pays his share to WB (if the sites don't pay it directly to them), well obviously if he won't pay he'll get sued and he'll lose, so I don't really see what was the purpose of your post. It's not like Prince lives in Afghanistan, there are clear laws regarding those things in the United States and it's not like Prince can decide not to pay his share and get away with it if he's contractually obliged to do so.

You are just rambling on and on. I've already made my point 3 times and you misunderstood it completely.

shrug

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Reply #20 posted 09/20/15 2:25pm

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funksterr said:

WB would have to approve so Jay-Z would have to reach deeper into his pockets for that to happen.

Can you quit talking like you know what you're talking about?

Thanks!

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Reply #21 posted 09/20/15 2:39pm

FUNKYNESS

If all he can get is a monthly subscription which people cancel once they figure how to download thge files, what incentive would Prince have to empty the vault on something like Tidal? Only hardcore fans would care about them anyway. He would be better off doing NPGMC or something similar with a hefty membership price for access and downloads.

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Reply #22 posted 09/20/15 5:28pm

funksterr

Aerogram said:

funksterr said:

WB would have to approve so Jay-Z would have to reach deeper into his pockets for that to happen.

Can you quit talking like you know what you're talking about?

Thanks!

OK... what did I say that you have a problem with?

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Reply #23 posted 09/22/15 6:09pm

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get real...

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