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How is or was Prince's piano tuned?

Hello!

After viewing this video

I started to wonder:

In what way is P's piano tuned?

Does anybody here know?

Or can anybodyt discern, measure or derive from the recordings?

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Reply #1 posted 09/20/15 2:15am

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Apparently prince discovered that the guy that used to tune beethoven's piano was cryogenically frozen... (not sure how he found out... something about him picking up a wifi signal detailing top sectret information in the middle of a table tennis match)... anyway... so prince paid a cool (pardon the pun ) 10 million bucks (money he'd managed to save by paying eric leeds low wages) to have the guy thawed out and brought to paisley park... he then had one of his flunkies (josh) explain to the piano tuner exactly what his job would entail
unfortunately the first time he was tuning the piano, prince walked in and the piano tuner looked up and made eye contact with him eek

prince fired him immediately and had him thrown out of the building

the piano tuner is now selling crack in chicago

prince is using an android app to tune his piano (he was using an apple app, but jay z found out and told him that was not acceptable, regardless of how many times he says he likes beyonce)

or something

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Reply #2 posted 09/20/15 4:25am

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udo said:

Hello!

After viewing this video

I started to wonder:

In what way is P's piano tuned?

Does anybody here know?

Or can anybodyt discern, measure or derive from the recordings?

Prince's pianos will be tuned like pretty much any other on the planet - using equal temperament. However, every piano is individual and requires tuning to "itself". That is to say, certain harmonics and vibrations will intereact with each other differently to another piano, so the piano tuner must reference the basic tuning using a tuning fork against other notes on the piano to find the ideal. Which is why piano tuning requires a specialist.

The above article is interesting, but it really only works in the world of mathematics. In the real world, those variations stated are not discernible by the human ear, so the piano sounds in tune anyway, despite the fact that in the strictest sense there is a small variation in the absolute pitch.

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Reply #3 posted 09/20/15 8:54am

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MoBettaBliss said:

Apparently prince discovered that the guy that used to tune beethoven's piano was cryogenically frozen... (not sure how he found out... something about him picking up a wifi signal detailing top sectret information in the middle of a table tennis match)... anyway... so prince paid a cool (pardon the pun ) 10 million bucks (money he'd managed to save by paying eric leeds low wages) to have the guy thawed out and brought to paisley park... he then had one of his flunkies (josh) explain to the piano tuner exactly what his job would entail
unfortunately the first time he was tuning the piano, prince walked in and the piano tuner looked up and made eye contact with him eek

prince fired him immediately and had him thrown out of the building

the piano tuner is now selling crack in chicago

prince is using an android app to tune his piano (he was using an apple app, but jay z found out and told him that was not acceptable, regardless of how many times he says he likes beyonce)

or something


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Reply #4 posted 09/21/15 3:05am

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He uses equal temperament tuning.

That said, I recall not long ago he posted a link to a video that was trying to encourage people to change from standard A=440 tuning down to some other slightly lower tuning frequency, because supposedly this would link Western Music up with the fundamental frequency created by the rotation or Earth or sun (or some such conspiracy nonsense like that). But either way, the ratios between semitones would still be considered equal temperament tuning, with ratios adjusted in order to maintain a perfect octave, only with everything tuned slightly lower.



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Reply #5 posted 09/21/15 12:04pm

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MoBettaBliss said:

Apparently prince discovered that the guy that used to tune beethoven's piano was cryogenically frozen... (not sure how he found out... something about him picking up a wifi signal detailing top sectret information in the middle of a table tennis match)... anyway... so prince paid a cool (pardon the pun ) 10 million bucks (money he'd managed to save by paying eric leeds low wages) to have the guy thawed out and brought to paisley park... he then had one of his flunkies (josh) explain to the piano tuner exactly what his job would entail
unfortunately the first time he was tuning the piano, prince walked in and the piano tuner looked up and made eye contact with him eek

prince fired him immediately and had him thrown out of the building

the piano tuner is now selling crack in chicago

prince is using an android app to tune his piano (he was using an apple app, but jay z found out and told him that was not acceptable, regardless of how many times he says he likes beyonce)

or something


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Reply #6 posted 09/21/15 10:13pm

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luv4u said:

MoBettaBliss said:

Apparently prince discovered that the guy that used to tune beethoven's piano was cryogenically frozen... (not sure how he found out... something about him picking up a wifi signal detailing top sectret information in the middle of a table tennis match)... anyway... so prince paid a cool (pardon the pun ) 10 million bucks (money he'd managed to save by paying eric leeds low wages) to have the guy thawed out and brought to paisley park... he then had one of his flunkies (josh) explain to the piano tuner exactly what his job would entail
unfortunately the first time he was tuning the piano, prince walked in and the piano tuner looked up and made eye contact with him eek

prince fired him immediately and had him thrown out of the building

the piano tuner is now selling crack in chicago

prince is using an android app to tune his piano (he was using an apple app, but jay z found out and told him that was not acceptable, regardless of how many times he says he likes beyonce)

or something


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Reply #7 posted 09/21/15 10:15pm

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Reply #8 posted 09/22/15 3:34am

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toejam said:

He uses equal temperament tuning.

That said, I recall not long ago he posted a link to a video that was trying to encourage people to change from standard A=440 tuning down to some other slightly lower tuning frequency, because supposedly this would link Western Music up with the fundamental frequency created by the rotation or Earth or sun (or some such conspiracy nonsense like that). But either way, the ratios between semitones would still be considered equal temperament tuning, with ratios adjusted in order to maintain a perfect octave, only with everything tuned slightly lower.



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The alternative tuning is not "conspiracy theory nonsense", it is to achieve mathematical purity amongst the harmonics. Pitch standards have varied greatly over the centuries and all have been rather arbitrary. "Scientific pitch", as it's called, aims to attain the most mathematically "natural" tuning possible. But trying to overturn what is considered an almost global standard is quite difficult.
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