lezama said:

Um, last time I checked, those guys are older than him. They are his teachers, his elders. He ain't gonna say shit to Stevie or Miles. He's going to sit down, shut up, and listen. Can you imagine him questioning Miles Davis?
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FUNKYNESS said:

KingSausage said:

If he didn't mention D'Angelo it's probably because he knows D is smoking him right now. D dropped the masterpiece Black Messiah, but all Prince can come up with is the limp garbage SHITNRUNS.

I think you may be right. This is why I started a thread a few days ago asking if DAngelo was finally in the running for being the new Prince. I dont think I have ever been more disappointed in Prince than when he cites useless, spoiled punk children like Willow Smith. He says nothing about real musicians who are kicking his ass now like DAngelo, Van Hunt, or even Sananda Maitreya because it is obvious that they are acting like grown men and he is trying to be the hip uncle at the family cookout.

How are the people you cited "kicking his ass" exactly? Only Prince of the aforementioned is living comfortably and able to record what he wants when he wants and how he wants. They would all love to be in a position where they could record themselves taking a dump and still have hordes flocking to buy it. To me, "kicking ass" is freedom. Of the three you mentioned Sananda and Van are the free-est musically, but financially they don't have nothing near and will never have anything near what Prince has. D'Angelo tries too hard and thus isn't even free musically.. he's trying to live up to everyone elses expectations of him.

KingSausage said:

lezama said:

Outgunned in what exactly?

Playing real music and being a real musician. I don't see D'Angelo resorting to sampler sets.

Prince plays what he wants because he wants, not because he can't. Prince can do what D'Angelo does in his sleep, and the next day do some trashy electro-pop, some horrible rap, some incoherent jazz, and then the next day play the most brilliant set of pop, rock, r&b, and funk that anyone living today could do. I think you guys confuse him doing what he wants to do and what's interesting to him at any given moment, for not being able to do what you want him to do. Thats false.

PurpleMedley122 said:

lezama said:

Working with Stevie, working with Miles, working with Kate, working with George.. im not sure what you mean..

Um, last time I checked, those guys are older than him. They are his teachers, his elders. He ain't gonna say shit to Stevie or Miles. He's going to sit down, shut up, and listen. Can you imagine him questioning Miles Davis? [Edited 9/18/15 9:45am]

The question was whether or not he's "afraid" of people equal in talent to him. The answer is clearly no.

lezama said:

Oh, please. What a joke. Prince doesn't have it in him anymore to record an album even half as amazing as Voodoo or Black Messiah.

KingSausage said:

lezama said:

Prince plays what he wants because he wants, not because he can't. Prince can do what D'Angelo does in his sleep, and the next day do some trashy electro-pop, some horrible rap, some incoherent jazz, and then the next day play the most brilliant set of pop, rock, r&b, and funk that anyone living today could do. I think you guys confuse him doing what he wants to do and what's interesting to him at any given moment, for not being able to do what you want him to do. Thats false.

Oh, please. What a joke. Prince doesn't have it in him anymore to record an album even half as amazing as Voodoo or Black Messiah.

You keep mistaking your opinions for something other than subjective qualifications.. I don't think you understand what your subjective impressions mean.

KS be everyday on the org like..

lezama said:

You might want to take a look at your own posts. Lots of opinions there. Also everyone's posts. We're not editing Wikipedia here. We're sharing our opinions on music. Just because you don't like my opinion doesn't mean I'm confusing opinions and fact. Or do you have factual evidence to support your statement that "Prince can do what D'Angelo does in his sleep"? Hmm.

And where's your factual evidence that Prince can "play the most brilliant set of pop, rock, r&b, and funk that anyone living today could do"? How is that subjective? You must have access to some amazing data!

Disagreeing is fine, but please try to be a little less full of it.
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KingSausage said:

lezama said:

You keep mistaking your opinions for something other than subjective qualifications.. I don't think you understand what your subjective impressions mean.

You might want to take a look at your own posts. Lots of opinions there. Also everyone's posts. We're not editing Wikipedia here. We're sharing our opinions on music. Just because you don't like my opinion doesn't mean I'm confusing opinions and fact. Or do you have factual evidence to support your statement that "Prince can do what D'Angelo does in his sleep"? Hmm.

Because stylistically D'Angelo is derivative of Prince, not vice versa

KingSausage said:

And where's your factual evidence that Prince can "play the most brilliant set of pop, rock, r&b, and funk that anyone living today could do"? How is that subjective? You must have access to some amazing data! Disagreeing is fine, but please try to be a little less full of it.

Are you suggesting that in all the albums that he's released within the last 10-15 there are not brilliant songs on them intermixed with others? And I'm partly being argumentative because I'm bored, not because I have anything against your opinions. But they're just a lot of fun to attack.

lezama said:

He has plenty of great songs on his albums from the last 10-15 years. I've said many times that I love AOA, 20ten, 3121, TRC, ONA, and parts of other albums in that timeframe. I was just addressing your specific statement because of your implication that I somehow thought my opinions and statements were objective. They're just opinions like everyone else's.

Boredom sucks. I'd be less bored of HnR wasn't so completely terrible.

lezama said:

He sounds more like Marvin than Prince. There's not much on Voodoo or Black Messiah that sounds like Prince. Shit, I wish Prince produced some music now that was good enough that Black Messiah could be derivative of it!

djThunderfunk said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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• Willow Smith: “Eye love what she’s doing, her and her brother [Jaden]. Eye want 2 meet them. It almost happened, but it didn’t work out. Eye want 2c what she’s making n five years.”

When produces Willow in 5 years. Eye'm pretty sure her album won't have the same groove throughout it, with her MUMBLING HER VOCALS!!....

And now you're going to act like Willow is more talented than D'Angelo?!?!

That comment Eye made was a dig torward a fellow orger in this thread that's obsessed with D.

D is actually my second favorite artist under . Mainly because he is VERY HEAVILY influenced by him.D mentioned over 15 TIMES in his innerview with Tavis(another thing he copied from ) Also very gifted,an excellent keyboard player(my fav instrument eye play also). Also he is a gifted vocalist.

is attracted to peeps that DARE 2b different!Like Willow & Jaden(who wears skirts) They both are not afraid 2 b themselves FREE SPIRITS. The Smith's are argubly the most successful black family in the industry. Our heritage should all join 2gether. Like Oprah & Tyler has.

We can take over the WHOLE industry! African Americans are argubly the most gifted race, Our problem is we don't share it among eachother. is changing that cycle with his collaboration with Jay Z. Then possibly THE SMITH's!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I LOVE The Smiths!

KingSausage said:

If he didn't mention D'Angelo it's probably because he knows D is smoking him right now. D dropped the masterpiece Black Messiah, but all Prince can come up with is the limp garbage SHITNRUNS.

lol Black Messiah should have been called VoodooToo, as it's simply, that. Nothing new there. HitnRun isn't a masterpiece, but I wouldn't compare it to BM. I've listened to BM once or twice and it's literally like listening to Voodoo all over again.

BlackandRising said:

As my amigo would say,

KingSausage said:

lezama said:

Outgunned in what exactly?

Playing real music and being a real musician. I don't see D'Angelo resorting to sampler sets.

D'angetlo doesn't have enough hits to have a "Sampler Set"! Which is the main reason has one. Because it's hard 4 him to include EVERY hit he has in his multple repetoire catalog.

Plus teaching those intricate chord pattern in his songs to new band members is a headache.

Eye think the "Sampler Set" idea is a genius idea!

KingSausage said:

BlackandRising said:

lol Black Messiah should have been called VoodooToo, as it's simply, that. Nothing new there. HitnRun isn't a masterpiece, but I wouldn't compare it to BM. I've listened to BM once or twice and it's literally like listening to Voodoo all over again.

As my amigo would say,

you should pick up a book or do some research on music styles.

BlackandRising said:

Nice assumptions you're making there, chump.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Well, if teaching the intricate chord patterns to his band is so tough perhaps he should get a better band? Maybe the Vanguard?

KingSausage said:

BlackandRising said:

you should pick up a book or do some research on music styles.

Nice assumptions you're making there, chump.

lmao I'm just fuckin wit you. But seriously, Black Messiah and HitnRun are two very different styles of music. To compare the two and claim that one or the other is better is kind of illogical given the wildly different musical styles each employs. That and the fact that HnR took months to make, while BM took a decade. I woudl expect BM to be an opus given the amount of time between his two offerings. But it really isn't.

KingSausage said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Then possibly THE SMITH's!

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Ok that was funny.. lol

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KingSausage said:

lezama said: Playing real music and being a real musician. I don't see D'Angelo resorting to sampler sets.

D'angetlo doesn't have enough hits to have a "Sampler Set"!

True.. its hard to satisfy all the casual fans that go to his shows and only come to hear those few songs they know. So doing these sets are mostly (I think) to appease them.

KingSausage said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

D'angetlo doesn't have enough hits to have a "Sampler Set"! Which is the main reason has one. Because it's hard 4 him to include EVERY hit he has in his multple repetoire catalog.

Plus teaching those intricate chord pattern in his songs to new band members is a headache.

Eye think the "Sampler Set" idea is a genius idea!

Well, if teaching the intricate chord patterns to his band is so tough perhaps he should get a better band? Maybe the Vanguard?

LMAO. In once again praising Prince, KCOOL inadvertly disses his band. I'm pretty sure his previous bands had no problem learning those "intricate chord patterns".

KingSausage said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

D'angetlo doesn't have enough hits to have a "Sampler Set"! Which is the main reason has one. Because it's hard 4 him to include EVERY hit he has in his multple repetoire catalog.

Plus teaching those intricate chord pattern in his songs to new band members is a headache.

Eye think the "Sampler Set" idea is a genius idea!

Well, if teaching the intricate chord patterns to his band is so tough perhaps he should get a better band? Maybe the Vanguard?

Playing ONE chord through a two hour show doesn't equal a great band...

KingSausage said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

D'angetlo doesn't have enough hits to have a "Sampler Set"! Which is the main reason has one. Because it's hard 4 him to include EVERY hit he has in his multple repetoire catalog.

Plus teaching those intricate chord pattern in his songs to new band members is a headache.

Eye think the "Sampler Set" idea is a genius idea!

Well, if teaching the intricate chord patterns to his band is so tough perhaps he should get a better band? Maybe the Vanguard?

Playing ONE chord through a two hour show doesn't equal a great band...

PurpleMedley122 said:

Yeah, I thought you liked 3EG? Did you start this thread just to tear them apart? That's harsh!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Maybe D should do a sampler set so he wouldn't have to teach anyone any chords at all. Just hit "play"! Real music for real musicians!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KingSausage said:

lezama said: Playing real music and being a real musician. I don't see D'Angelo resorting to sampler sets.

D'angetlo doesn't have enough hits to have a "Sampler Set"! Which is the main reason has one. Because it's hard 4 him to include EVERY hit he has in his multple repetoire catalog.

Plus teaching those intricate chord pattern in his songs to new band members is a headache.

Eye think the "Sampler Set" idea is a genius idea!

No, the reason for the sampler set is that he's working with musicians who aren't talented enough to play his back catalogue.
'Let's Go Crazy' was slowed down for a reason.