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Thread started 09/16/15 6:50am

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TIDAL Gets Physical

TIDAL GETS PHYSICAL

For the first time ever, a streaming service is selling CDs.

Prince released his new album—his third in under a year, btw—called HitNRun PhaseOne as a Tidal exclusive on Sept. 7. After a week of streaming behind the service's paywall, the album was then released wide to other retailers such as iTunes and Amazon, with Tidal joining the effort by functioning as...a retailer?

Yep.

The service offers both regular mp3 and hi-fi (FLAC) versions of the album digitally, selling for $9.99 and $17.99, respectively.

But it gets weirder.

Tidal is selling the physical CD of HitNRun. If a consumer insists on this peculiar path of most resistance to attain it, however, it will set them back more than $25, including shipping.

Was this inclusion part of a negotiating tactic for the exclusive by the 57-year-old artist? It's no secret Prince has notoriously struggled with the modern realities of the Internet and his music. And Tidal may have gotten something in return—in July, Prince started pulling his music off all the other streaming outlets.

It remains to be seen whether Tidal will offer this functionality to other artists. You do not need a subscription to access their new store, but you are required to set up a free account, which gives Tidal an opportunity to collect user emails and potentially message them in the future to try their service.

By any means necessary, people.

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Reply #1 posted 09/16/15 7:55am

TraSoul82

Fuck that. $25+shipping for that 'album' when you'll more than likely receive only the disc in a digipak. If he isn't promising a booklet with artwork and lyrics I don't see how that price is remotely with it.
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/15 8:14am

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13 dollars including shipping at amazon, who in their right mind would pay 25 at tidal?

[Edited 9/16/15 8:15am]

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Reply #3 posted 09/16/15 8:36am

trax

TraSoul82 said:

Fuck that. $25+shipping for that 'album' when you'll more than likely receive only the disc in a digipak. If he isn't promising a booklet with artwork and lyrics I don't see how that price is remotely with it.

Cd is worth it. Its in a jewel case and has the lyric booklet. Just don't buy it from Tidal. Go to Target or Walmart

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Reply #4 posted 09/16/15 8:48am

RJOrion

trax said:



TraSoul82 said:


Fuck that. $25+shipping for that 'album' when you'll more than likely receive only the disc in a digipak. If he isn't promising a booklet with artwork and lyrics I don't see how that price is remotely with it.

Cd is worth it. Its in a jewel case and has the lyric booklet. Just don't buy it from Tidal. Go to Target or Walmart




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Reply #5 posted 09/16/15 9:52am

Milty2

Honestly....why is Prince so difficult?

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Reply #6 posted 09/16/15 9:59am

Se7en

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Agreed that the CD is worth getting. I was pleasantly surprised when I heard it. I had based a negative review on half the album.

Is HITnRUN one of his top-tier albums? Of course not. Is it a good musical snapshot of 2015? Yep.

BTW, I picked it up yesterday for $11.88 at Walmart, which is less than half of what Tidal is selling it for. Where did they come with their price?

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Reply #7 posted 09/16/15 10:01am

RodeoSchro

Milty2 said:

Honestly....why is Prince so difficult?



Whoever wrote this hit the nail on the head: " It's no secret Prince has notoriously struggled with the modern realities of the Internet and his music."

Hard as it is to believe, I just don't think Prince understands this part of the business very well.

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Reply #8 posted 09/16/15 10:05am

TraSoul82

trax said:



TraSoul82 said:


Fuck that. $25+shipping for that 'album' when you'll more than likely receive only the disc in a digipak. If he isn't promising a booklet with artwork and lyrics I don't see how that price is remotely with it.

Cd is worth it. Its in a jewel case and has the lyric booklet. Just don't buy it from Tidal. Go to Target or Walmart



That make more sense then. One thing I've always hated is hearing people say "stealing music/movies online is the same as walking in the store and stealing the disc." If the physical packaging is so poor that it's rivaled by no packaging at all, that's not the consumer's fault.

Since I've gotten into logistics, I'm guessing a major decision was made across the board to save on shipping costs (weight). In the 90's, I used to struggle to pull the booklet out from under those tabs. Little books stuffed with photos, unique art, LYRICS, and personal thank-yous made listening to music a more intimate experience.

Then suddenly, there were these stapleless inserts that gave no lyrics, no personal touch, no credit to musicians that was easily decipherable.
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Reply #9 posted 09/16/15 11:00am

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omg 338SEK ($41) for the CD+shipping on Tidal, I payed 149SEK ($18) at the record store smile
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Reply #10 posted 09/16/15 11:02am

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Sorry double post smile
[Edited 9/16/15 11:03am]
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Reply #11 posted 09/16/15 12:05pm

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Just under £10 including postage from Amazon in the UK.

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Things just got 2 get better
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Reply #12 posted 09/16/15 3:08pm

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It's nice to see him still pushing cds but I don't see how he expects them to sell for a higher price just because it's from Tidal when we can pick them up anywhere else.

...though I'd probably cave if he sold cds for the NPGMC material.

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Reply #13 posted 09/16/15 3:29pm

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Fuck this throwing money to millionaires and billionaires shit. Sorry P and Jay Zed.

It's shitty kids music. Of course middle aged Prince fans who don't normally listen to bleepy music think it's cutting edge or something. It's the audio equivalent of the Star Wars prequels. Prince is like old George Lucas just milking your teets.

But if any of you suckers/old farts/mugs/silly sods can work it out, this mediocre album, well.. it's free on the torrents, and still not really worth it.

Crap.

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Reply #14 posted 09/16/15 3:35pm

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Is this really the first time a CD has been sold by a streaming service? I sometimes see links to physical releases at the top of artist's Spotify pages, doesn't that count?

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Reply #15 posted 09/16/15 3:52pm

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Milty2 said:

Honestly....why is Prince so difficult?


If you know you can buy it cheaper at other outlets how is this making life difficult for anyone. You realize that other artist are selling deluxe editions of their CDs?
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Reply #16 posted 09/16/15 6:04pm

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Is this really the first time a CD has been sold by a streaming service? I sometimes see links to physical releases at the top of artist's Spotify pages, doesn't that count?

Well those aren't technically sold by the streaming services those go to outside sources. This is literally sold within Tidal.

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Reply #17 posted 09/16/15 7:27pm

dazedawhile

please stop telling us its at walmart and target. i have been to both and it was not there. also it is not on the either website.

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Reply #18 posted 09/17/15 1:19pm

dazedawhile

at least for target you will need to check with idividual stores. but give them this: DCI# 012-04-1673

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Reply #19 posted 09/18/15 3:06pm

Milty2

laurarichardson said:

Milty2 said:

Honestly....why is Prince so difficult?

If you know you can buy it cheaper at other outlets how is this making life difficult for anyone. You realize that other artist are selling deluxe editions of their CDs?

Prince having it on Tidal for $20 is a lesson in futility. That's what I meant by that.

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Reply #20 posted 09/19/15 10:33am

HataHZappa

"If a consumer insists on this peculiar path of most resistance to attain it"

Hey TIDAL, WTF does that even mean? You're like serioulsy bashing physical forms? You actually went there? Go away.

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Reply #21 posted 09/19/15 3:05pm

funksterr

Saw it for $11 at Walmart... didn't buy it tho.

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Reply #22 posted 09/19/15 5:29pm

XSX

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Middle aged Prince fans probably heard Emancipation and there's been precisely zilcho development sonics-wise since, even when you DO put the acronym EDM with it. Not that Prince was being innovative on Emancipation but, purlease, he has used samples and synths before.

Seriously, check out his back catalogue. I'm not making it up.

razz

Marrk said:

Of course middle aged Prince fans who don't normally listen to bleepy music think it's cutting edge or something.

“I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.”
-Robert Anton Wilson
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