It is a great record.

It's decent. The first two tracks on the album are tolerable. "Act of God" is a decent funk track. "Lavaux" is one of the best jams he's done in years and the type of song he needs to be making entire albums similar to. "Walk In Sand" is a great slow jam. There are some dull slow songs on there too though that sound like they would fit in on urban adult contemporary radio and, as usual, he just HAD to put a sell out shit hop track like "Laydown" to make me taste vomit.

vainandy said:

I consider Future Soul Song to be one of his all time greatest slow jams and one of his best songs of the 00's.

As for the album as a whole, I quite like it, I'd take it over 3121, Musicology and HitNRun anyday. I would put it on a similar level to AOA, some great tracks, some good tracks and some so-so.

But Future Soul Song...

I though it wasn't too bad. Remember, this is the guy that made Musicology and MPLSound.

bluegangsta said:

I though it wasn't too bad. Remember, this is the guy that made Musicology and MPLSound.

MPLSound >>> 20Ten

MattyJam said:

bluegangsta said:

I though it wasn't too bad. Remember, this is the guy that made Musicology and MPLSound.

MPLSound >>> 20Ten

Not sure what you're trying to achieve with that post, but obviously, we are in disagreement.

bluegangsta said:

MattyJam said:

MPLSound >>> 20Ten

Not sure what you're trying to achieve with that post, but obviously, we are in disagreement.

Achieve? Not trying to achieve anything, just stating my opinion.

Whilst Future Soul Song is better than all of MPLSound, pound for pound and song for song, MPLSound simply has more songs I love than 20Ten.

Songs I love on 20Ten:

Future Soul Song

Compassion

Beginning Endlessly

Songs I love on MPLSound:

Here

Better With Time

Dance 4 Me

Ol Skool Company

No More Candy 4 U

Prince fans are funny.

The hate here for 20TEN was way bigger than for HNR now.

Imagine how many will rave on HNR in 5 years time.

They hate it now but will call it a "masterpiece" by then

Oh and to answer the OP's question: no, 20TEN is not a "very good record".

I was never into 20Ten.

However, this Summer I revisted it.

This album is great and has some true gems! I do very much like all the tracks and particularly the extended versions.

I Always say you have to give an album 5 years before giving a final judgement.

It's interesting how people get fond of an album given some time.

I liked 20TEN from the day it came out and almost felt ashamed when i visited the org reading other people's opinions.

I must say i still like 20TEN quite a bit.

I find it quite patronising that people think folks rag on an album because it's in style to do so. Are people really that sheep-like?

I generally know pretty early on whether a Prince album is going to resonate with me or not, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to change my mind later on down the line. For example I hated Musicology when it came out, but have grown to appreciate certain things about it in the preceding years, whereas I also disliked 3121 when it came out and to this day I still struggle to find many redeeming features on that album. Whereas I loved Planet Earth and MPLSound the first time I heard them and continue to enjoy them to this day.

MattyJam said:

I find it quite patronising that people think folks rag on an album because it's in style to do so. Are people really that sheep-like?

I generally know pretty early on whether a Prince album is going to resonate with me or not, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to change my mind later on down the line. For example I hated Musicology when it came out, but have grown to appreciate certain things about it in the preceding years, whereas I also disliked 3121 when it came out and to this day I still struggle to find many redeeming features on that album. Whereas I loved Planet Earth and MPLSound the first time I heard them and continue to enjoy them to this day.

I totally agree! An individuals appreciation to music changes over time. This is why I think music has to be lived with and re-visited. People should never be too quick to pass judgement as we all change in time.

emesem said:

the last album where Prince sounds like Prince

Interesting post, which begs this question: is 20Ten the last album without 3EG or Joshua Welton?

I wonder which one-off singles before AOA/PE were Prince-only? Not Screwdriver or LOL, and Ain't Gonna Miss U sounds like AOA/HNR. Groovy Potential?

warning2all said:

I don't think Prince is an "album guy". He's a guy with a couple of strong tracks in uneven albums. That's is in stark contrast from the "Dirty Mind"-"Sign o the Times" era, where you can say he definitely delivered fully realized Albums. "Rainbow Children", enjoy it or not- may be an exception. It has a concept from beginning to end that is complete. As a release- 20Ten is a minor, but enjoyable album, I enjoy most since "Rainbow Children". It was in style to bash it, until HITNRUN came along

True, it was in style to bash it, maybe it still is in style to bash it. look at mick jagger's reluctance to record a new stones album, for example: he knows whatever he does, it maybe won't match up to the past and/or people will not be interested.

Se7en said:

emesem said:

the last album where Prince sounds like Prince

Interesting post, which begs this question: is 20Ten the last album without 3EG or Joshua Welton?

I wonder which one-off singles before AOA/PE were Prince-only? Not Screwdriver or LOL, and Ain't Gonna Miss U sounds like AOA/HNR. Groovy Potential?

prince seemed comfortable and in his skin in 20ten, that's why the album is cohesive. MPLS, on the other hand, i thought did NOT sound like prince for some reason, I just can't put a finger on it.

groovy potential sounds like prince. I kinda like da bourgeoisie too, although it was unfinished. the new song "indifference" kinda sounds like prince, the few times i've heard it.

train23 said:

how can I find a 20ten?

check

EBay.

yes it is

There are some good songs on it that I think would have been fun live

4. Sticky Like Glue

6. Laveux

7. Sea of Everything

As an album it is not very strong or memorable (I even had to look up the tracklist because I always get it mixed up with MPLsound) but at least the album cover looks half decent, and there are a couple of songs on it that I really, unapologetically like, for instance Walk in Sand , Future Soul Song, or the first half of Sticky Like Glue (which sounds like classic Prince unless the rap part starts).

The rest is not too bad, either, but I am not into the lyrics of the other songs because I can´t really relate to them,and lyrics mean a lot to me (which is one reason why I don´t like songs such as Gold Standard , etc. etc. ....ok music, lame lyrics).

Everybody Loves Me and Compassion suck, Laydown is one of his "bragging" songs and I don´t like those kind of songs....and I absolutely agree with what King Sausage said about Laydown.

OldFriends4Sale said:

There are some good songs on it that I think would have been fun live

Agreed! The live version of Sticky Like Glue is great.

The first half of 20Ten is pretty fantastic, and most of you slept hard on it. The opening couplet of Compassion>Beginning Endlessly is a wonder to behold. Act of God, Sticky Like Glue, and Lauvaux are all special. But the centerpiece of that album is Future Soul Song. The harmonies in that song are pure candy...it's Prince at his most Brian Wilson-esque. I would dare call it a masterpiece. The album loses steam in a big way down the stretch, sadly.

Always been a fan of La Veaux, Act Of God, Sticky Like Glue, and Lay it Down (Purple Yoda is hard to resist)

Funkyalien said:

or is 20ten a very good album? have been listening non-stop for three days after ignoring it for years. i expect no reply, or disparaging comments maybe. wish there was someone who shared the sentiment....the first prince lp i bought when it came out was 1999...probably getting old...

I like it a lot. It didn't blow my mind like Mplsound did, I wouldn't consider it a major Prince album but i think it's really cool and it has some gems on it, Lavaux for one

paulludvig said: