OldFriends4Sale said:

Angelsoncrack said:

He's contradicting everything he sang about in "race";

"Down with history, and all this BS propoganda

Keeping you from me, and me from you as we grow

I don't wanna know

Why those before us hated each other"

That's exactly what he is doing. Concentrating on the past rather than thinking of ways to improve the situation at hand. Be the statement accurate or not.

He should just make music

bad businessman, who when he had his label it was shut down because people did not get paid

He isn't a good example of people owning lol

I personally think he's at a stage where his role should not simply be making music. Race was written when? Attitudes, thoughts, etc., change as we grow. I thought Race was a great message back in the day. Now I think it's wholly naive. And on the contrary, I think he's finally using the past to focus on what needs to be done in/for the future. What's the old adage about forgetting the past and being doomed to repeat it?

[Edited 9/4/15 11:28am]

BlackandRising said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Like I said, some of what you say must be true--concerning police abuse; early on in America especially. Are you just being stubborn, though? Would you agree that this is a time and a place and not indicative of the police as an institution? Also, asking me to do some resarch on the subject is funny, considering you can't even tell me who invented the police. If you're gonna engage, please have the courtesy to know the basics.

I already stated that what he said doesn't diminish what the police do today. And I'm not here to tell you who "invented" the police, as that was anywhere near anything I stated in my post. I simply stated that what Prince said cannot be simply dismissed as false. You stated that it was, I responded with an alternative opinion that I found in a nanosecond. Are you following? Because you're getting kind of snippy here. ala ""please have the courtesy to know the basics". What does that even mean?

But it is false.
If he says the police were created for X Y Z and they were actually created here and for this.
Then how can it not be dismissed as false?

The Early Days of American Law Enforcement

The Watch

More than 350 years ago, America’s first known system of law enforcement was established in Boston. As soon as colonists had settled there in 1630, local ordinances had allowed for constables to be appointed. Soon after, in April 1631, the townspeople formed a “watch” made up of six watchmen, one constable, and several volunteers who patrolled at night, walking the rounds.

Initially run by a combination of obligatory and voluntary participation, the 17th century watch typically reported fires, maintained order in the streets, raised the “hue and cry” (pursuing suspected criminals with loud cries to raise alarm), and captured and arrested lawbreakers. Constables had similar tasks, which included maintaining health and sanitation and bringing suspects and witnesses to court—frequently for such conduct as working on the Sabbath, cursing in public places, and failing to pen animals properly.

In the more rural, sparsely populated areas of the Colonies, the sheriff was the main law enforcement figure. Appointed by the governor, sheriffs’ duties included serving legal documents such as writs, appearing in court, and collecting taxes. In many cases, the sheriff was paid a fixed amount for each task he performed, some, for example, receiving payment based on the amount of taxes they collected. Occasionally, these tasks proved dangerous. In fact, the first known American peace officer to be killed in the line of duty was Columbia County (NY) Sheriff Cornelius Hogeboom, who was shot on October 22, 1791, as he attempted to serve a writ of ejectment.

This early policing system was modeled after the English structure, which incorporated the watch, constables, and sheriffs (derived from the British term, “shire-reeves”) in a community-based police organization. (Interestingly, the British system developed from “kin policing” dating back to about 900 A.D., in which law enforcement power was in the people’s hands, and they were responsible for their families or “kin.”) Early law enforcement was reactionary, rather than pre-emptive—the watch usually responded to criminal behavior only when requested by victims or witnesses. And, with monetary incentive in certain areas, apprehending criminals was not always a priority.

BlackandRising said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

He should just make music

bad businessman, who when he had his label it was shut down because people did not get paid

He isn't a good example of people owning lol

I personally think he's at a stage where his role should not simply be making music. Race was written when? Attitudes, thoughts, etc., change as we grow. I thought Race was a great message back in the day. Now I think it's wholly naive. And on the contrary, I think he's finally using the past to focus on what needs to be done in/for the future. What's the old adage about forgetting the past and being doomed to repeat it?

[Edited 9/4/15 11:28am]

I think Prince's focus should stay on working with #All Artists in understanding their liberties and right as Artists/Musicians. That is where his energy has been for a long time. And it is clear that that is where it is by those quotes. Artists of every ethnic group look up too him. Continue on the direction that hasn't changed in Prince. Prince is not going to get in the street and march, he isn't going to go live in an all black underpriviledged community and get them to get their own police.

OldFriends4Sale said:

BlackandRising said:

I already stated that what he said doesn't diminish what the police do today. And I'm not here to tell you who "invented" the police, as that was anywhere near anything I stated in my post. I simply stated that what Prince said cannot be simply dismissed as false. You stated that it was, I responded with an alternative opinion that I found in a nanosecond. Are you following? Because you're getting kind of snippy here. ala ""please have the courtesy to know the basics". What does that even mean?

But it is false.
If he says the police were created for X Y Z and they were actually created here and for this.
Then how can it not be dismissed as false?

The Early Days of American Law Enforcement

The Watch

More than 350 years ago, America’s first known system of law enforcement was established in Boston. As soon as colonists had settled there in 1630, local ordinances had allowed for constables to be appointed. Soon after, in April 1631, the townspeople formed a “watch” made up of six watchmen, one constable, and several volunteers who patrolled at night, walking the rounds.

Initially run by a combination of obligatory and voluntary participation, the 17th century watch typically reported fires, maintained order in the streets, raised the “hue and cry” (pursuing suspected criminals with loud cries to raise alarm), and captured and arrested lawbreakers. Constables had similar tasks, which included maintaining health and sanitation and bringing suspects and witnesses to court—frequently for such conduct as working on the Sabbath, cursing in public places, and failing to pen animals properly.

In the more rural, sparsely populated areas of the Colonies, the sheriff was the main law enforcement figure. Appointed by the governor, sheriffs’ duties included serving legal documents such as writs, appearing in court, and collecting taxes. In many cases, the sheriff was paid a fixed amount for each task he performed, some, for example, receiving payment based on the amount of taxes they collected. Occasionally, these tasks proved dangerous. In fact, the first known American peace officer to be killed in the line of duty was Columbia County (NY) Sheriff Cornelius Hogeboom, who was shot on October 22, 1791, as he attempted to serve a writ of ejectment.

This early policing system was modeled after the English structure, which incorporated the watch, constables, and sheriffs (derived from the British term, “shire-reeves”) in a community-based police organization. (Interestingly, the British system developed from “kin policing” dating back to about 900 A.D., in which law enforcement power was in the people’s hands, and they were responsible for their families or “kin.”) Early law enforcement was reactionary, rather than pre-emptive—the watch usually responded to criminal behavior only when requested by victims or witnesses. And, with monetary incentive in certain areas, apprehending criminals was not always a priority.

wait so you think that your one reference, with no reference, is the entire story and that's that?? Seriously?

BlackandRising said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what I'm up against.

lol so, tell me then, you stated prince was wrong, I supplied another opinion. That is called debating. What exactly do you think you're up against?

I can't keep going in circles. Prince says the police was created as a racist institution--and cites early abuses in America. It's as if these abuses (if they indeed happened) were part of the codes and practices of some police charter. No. They were abuses. The police force was not founded on a system of racist codes and practices. You should probably know at this point, that the police isn't just an American phenomenon either. Maybe this will help. I'll just have to assume it went through this time.

filthyrichyuppie said:

BlackandRising said:

lol so, tell me then, you stated prince was wrong, I supplied another opinion. That is called debating. What exactly do you think you're up against?

I can't keep going in circles. Prince says the police was created as a racist institution--and cites early abuses in America. It's as if these abuses (if they indeed happened) were part of the codes and practices of some police charter. No. They were abuses. The police force was not founded on a system of racist codes and practices. You should probably know at this point, that the police isn't just an American phenomenon either. Maybe this will help. I'll just have to assume it went through this time.

you didn't answer my question.

BlackandRising said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

I can't keep going in circles. Prince says the police was created as a racist institution--and cites early abuses in America. It's as if these abuses (if they indeed happened) were part of the codes and practices of some police charter. No. They were abuses. The police force was not founded on a system of racist codes and practices. You should probably know at this point, that the police isn't just an American phenomenon either. Maybe this will help. I'll just have to assume it went through this time.

you didn't answer my question.

Likewise (ad infintum).

BlackandRising said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

But it is false.
If he says the police were created for X Y Z and they were actually created here and for this.
Then how can it not be dismissed as false?

The Early Days of American Law Enforcement

The Watch

More than 350 years ago, America’s first known system of law enforcement was established in Boston. As soon as colonists had settled there in 1630, local ordinances had allowed for constables to be appointed. Soon after, in April 1631, the townspeople formed a “watch” made up of six watchmen, one constable, and several volunteers who patrolled at night, walking the rounds.

Initially run by a combination of obligatory and voluntary participation, the 17th century watch typically reported fires, maintained order in the streets, raised the “hue and cry” (pursuing suspected criminals with loud cries to raise alarm), and captured and arrested lawbreakers. Constables had similar tasks, which included maintaining health and sanitation and bringing suspects and witnesses to court—frequently for such conduct as working on the Sabbath, cursing in public places, and failing to pen animals properly.

In the more rural, sparsely populated areas of the Colonies, the sheriff was the main law enforcement figure. Appointed by the governor, sheriffs’ duties included serving legal documents such as writs, appearing in court, and collecting taxes. In many cases, the sheriff was paid a fixed amount for each task he performed, some, for example, receiving payment based on the amount of taxes they collected. Occasionally, these tasks proved dangerous. In fact, the first known American peace officer to be killed in the line of duty was Columbia County (NY) Sheriff Cornelius Hogeboom, who was shot on October 22, 1791, as he attempted to serve a writ of ejectment.

This early policing system was modeled after the English structure, which incorporated the watch, constables, and sheriffs (derived from the British term, “shire-reeves”) in a community-based police organization. (Interestingly, the British system developed from “kin policing” dating back to about 900 A.D., in which law enforcement power was in the people’s hands, and they were responsible for their families or “kin.”) Early law enforcement was reactionary, rather than pre-emptive—the watch usually responded to criminal behavior only when requested by victims or witnesses. And, with monetary incentive in certain areas, apprehending criminals was not always a priority.

wait so you think that your one reference, with no reference, is the entire story and that's that?? Seriously?

You'll find this throught the country

To assume the people did not feel the need for Sheriffs and Cops until Black folk became Emancipated is not even realistic.

http://www.nleomf.org/mus...-2012.html

filthyrichyuppie said:

BlackandRising said:

you didn't answer my question.

Likewise (ad infintum).

I mean, I did answer your queries. i don't think you understood the answers.

BlackandRising said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

I can't keep going in circles. Prince says the police was created as a racist institution--and cites early abuses in America. It's as if these abuses (if they indeed happened) were part of the codes and practices of some police charter. No. They were abuses. The police force was not founded on a system of racist codes and practices. You should probably know at this point, that the police isn't just an American phenomenon either. Maybe this will help. I'll just have to assume it went through this time.

you didn't answer my question.

So, do you think the police were created here in America to protect the Native Americans' property? Who's property do you think the police was created to protect? What role do you think the "police" played in regards to the native americans property. What role do you think the police played in regard to the property of the Africans here in America? Do you think they were created to protect the property of the Africans? You're so offended by him saying the police were created to protect the property of white folks, yet you haven't said whom you think they were created to "protect & serve"? Who?

EFFDUBB said:

BlackandRising said:

you didn't answer my question.

So, do you think the police were created here in America to protect the Native Americans' property? Who's property do you think the police was created to protect? What role do you think the "police" played in regards to the native americans property. What role do you think the police played in regard to the property of the Africans here in America? Do you think they were created to protect the property of the Africans? You're so offended by him saying the police were created to protect the property of white folks, yet you haven't said whom you think they were created to "protect & serve"? Who?

You're a bit late to the party, darlin'. Go back to the beginning of this thread. Once you've caught up, then you can rephrase.

filthyrichyuppie said:

BlackandRising said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Likewise (ad infintum).

I mean, I did answer your queries. i don't think you understood the answers.

Wrong. And wrong. What are you, like, 10?

CharismaDove said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Aren't you the one that believes in fairies?

What the fuck does believing in God have to do with this? You seriously need to learn to let past shit go. Why is it so hard for you to accept that people believe in him? You're honestly no better than a religious fanatic obsessed with converting people lol

Well...let's put it this way. Your grasp on reality can't always be trusted.

it seems obvious that some still want the minstrel show to continue... if a black man is "fortunate" enough to be allowed to sing & dance for entertainment purposes, he BETTER not dare speak of anything else besides singing and dancing, or do anything else besides sing or dance...lest he be ridiculed or labeled a troublemaker...some things never change...smh

filthyrichyuppie said:

RJOrion said:

it seems obvious that some still want the minstrel show to continue... if a black man is "fortunate" enough to be allowed to sing & dance for entertainment purposes, he BETTER not dare speak of anything else besides singing and dancing, or do anything else besides sing or dance...lest he be ridiculed or labeled a troublemaker...some things never change...smh

That's sounds like a bit of a cop out. Doh.

Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.

So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.

I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?

Don't worry. I'll wait.

CharismaDove said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Well...let's put it this way. Your grasp on reality can't always be trusted.

You're free to think that way. It doesn't change the fact that Black Americans aren't treated right. Have a nice day.

You connected your own illusions to how black Americans are treated. Wow. I'm impressed.

thesoulbrother said:

Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.

So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.

I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?

Don't worry. I'll wait.

im riding for Prince, but there's a LOT of valid counter-points in your comment... makes me lean back and think for a minute...

KingSausage said:

So Prince, amirite?

Shhh...let's not, you know, get back on topic. Until then...

filthyrichyuppie said:

BlackandRising said:

I mean, I did answer your queries. i don't think you understood the answers.

Wrong. And wrong. What are you, like, 10?

you're inferring immaturity after answering questions the way you do? With each post, it became more and more obvious as to what kind of person you are. You didn't understand my answers, so now your posts have devolved to this.

CharismaDove said:

EFFDUBB said:

Screw any of you racist punks for not wanting to deal with the truth to the wickedness of racism. Prince isn't speaking about the police in the Netherlands or any other place except America in this instance. You don't live here, and don't know the gravity of what happens here. You never had to truly deal with racism so you talk out of your ass. You hate that Prince is a grown ass man and not your little music slave. He is a person first, musician second. The police were and still are a big instrument for the institution and support of an evil ideology called white supremacy. If the truth hurts don't get mad at Prince. Address the evil bastards that started all of this racist evil terrorist shit. Call out the evil racist terrorists who spent and continue to spend ridiculous amounts of resources to terrorize another group of people so they can have a genetic advantage. That's what racism truly is. It's the need and desire for a genetic advantage in the world. If you don't have experience of police officers terrorizing you then just say it's never happened to you, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others. You love the police so much because they've been right by you for the most part. But they haven't been right by everyone. That's the silly assumption you make when you think of the police. It's inaccurate. They're selective about whom they treat with respect and dignity. And most times the unselected are not white. So when those who have been terrorized by the police speak on it, you struggle to believe your precious little protector can be so evil. The truth is...THEY CAN.

Thank you so fucking much for this post. I was beginning to lose hope about this thread..

SAY that!

BlackandRising said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Wrong. And wrong. What are you, like, 10?

you're inferring immaturity after answering questions the way you do? With each post, it became more and more obvious as to what kind of person you are. You didn't understand my answers, so now your posts have devolved to this.

You're asking questions about questions and...in the same breath...complain about devolution. Wow.

RJOrion said:

thesoulbrother said:

Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.

So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.

I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?

Don't worry. I'll wait.

im riding for Prince, but there's a LOT of valid counter-points in your comment... makes me lean back and think for a minute...

Thank you.

suzysix said:

CharismaDove said:

Thank you so fucking much for this post. I was beginning to lose hope about this thread..

SAY that!

She just did.

thesoulbrother said:

Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.

So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.

I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?

Don't worry. I'll wait.

Ain't that the truth

thesoulbrother said:

Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Prince is full of shit. He is always talking about linking contracts to slavery and it pisses me off each and everytime he does that. I think what people fail to grasp is that back in 1993, Prince was given a 7-year, $100 million deal. With that kind of money Prince had the potential to do some wonderful and amazing things. Not to mention, in 1985 he had his own label, Paisley Park. Michael Jackson, the number one entertainer in the world, didn't have his own label in 1985. Instead of Prince using the leverage and the tools (and the money) that he had to bless the music world with some real talent and some real music, he released bullshit from people like Dale Bozzio and Carmen Electra.

So he gets "free" and changes his name to that ridiculous symbol but scrawls "slave" on his face and becomes militant. Get the fuck outta here, man. Now all of a sudden you black? For the record I have never seen Prince with a black woman as a love interest in any of his videos, with the exception of Troy Beyer in Three Chains O' Gold but who the fuck saw it? Prince again raised all this commotion about wanting to "free the music" only to put out schlock like Newpower Soul and Larry Graham's forgettable GCS2000. Again, he had the power to be so far ahead of the game with his 1-800-NEW-FUNK and his NPG Music Club sites but he dropped the ball. He self-sabotaged his own shit before it even had a chance to grow and catch on. Everytime Prince innovated something like selling a concert ticket with a CD or selling his own singles on his site, he walked away from it. That's his own undoing.

I just find it laughable that he wants to compare record labels and contracts to slavery but yet The Time and The Family couldn't even use their own name. Regardless of whatever legal situations that entails, two of his most popular groups have to change their names just so they can go out and perform. Now what kind of sense does that make? You're gonna deny your own artists the right to use their name so they can make a living? But you wanna talk slavery? Negro please.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes no difference is he releases this album on Tidal, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, the traditional way, or if he gives this motherfucker away. It won't mean jack shit if it's not good. Plectrumelectrum did 33,000 copies and Art Official Age did 66,000 which equals wood and double wood respectively. Jocking Jay Z will not make the masses flock to Tidal to buy his new album. Furthermore, saying silly shit in the press before the release of an album to sound pseudo-intellectual won't do any good either. The bottom line is Prince is one bitter motherfucker still trying to hold on to what little relevancy he has left in a world that passed him by years ago. This is the same artist who fought the record label tooth and nail to get his masters and now that he has them?

Don't worry. I'll wait.

^^^^^^ I might have 2 side with the devil here

Prince might not like it though