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PrintableChadtheRTF said: High. It's better than Purple Rain.
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HIGH Dirty Mind 1999 Purple Rain Parade Sign o' The Times Lovesexy The Gold Experience Come (straddles "high" and "average") AVERAGE Controversy The Rainbow Children Around the World in a Day Graffiti Bridge 0-+> Emancipation Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic The Truth One Nite Alone (studio) One Nite Alone (live) LOW (i still enjoy all of these.. but "low" for P) Chaos and Disorder The Vault - Old Friends 4 Sale Prince For You The Black Album New Power Soul Batman Diamonds & Pearls Exodus * [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 19:00:02 PST 2003 by JonSnow] | |
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Anji said: madhouseman said: Low.
I respect your opinion. I'm left with two questions; firstly, do you think an album necessarily needs to be in the mainstream public's attention for it to be deemed classic? And secondly, do you hear Wedding Feast as an interlude or an actual song?
Sadly our expectations from him have dropped. It is an average album at best compared to much of his brilliant work. The lyrics are weak and racist. They playing is brilliant, but considering the list of classics he has written, this album is a watered down chaser. He hasn't had a classic album in 15 years. This album would be probably not even be noticed if it wasn't for being a Prince album. The public has voted. Find me a dozen people who have this in their collection outside of us fanatics. Now go and find me a critic's list that has this as a must have classic. Alright then. Don't let your desire for Prince to put out a classic album cloud your thoughts. That "Feast" song is bad enough to bring the album down from classic right off the bat and there ain't no one out there gonna convince me that it is a great tune. even with the Wedding Feast as a interlude it is horrible hell i know it may be his I am giddy in love message but even Emancipation interludes were tolerable A classic album is good from start to finish. This just don't cut da mustard babies. . [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 22:52:15 PST 2003 by Anji] |
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herb4 said: Somewhere in between "High" and "average". Parts of it or wonderful, but I'm STILL waiting for the next Prince CD since "Sign O' the Times" that I can spin end to end, without dashing across the room for the track skip button.
I thought I was the only one who dashed across the so I let alone any one else would hear certain tracks I appreciated it more after hearing the live material. "Muse 2 the Pharoah", "Everlasting Now", "1+1+1 is 3", "Mellow" and "She Loves Me for Me" were beautifully performed on the last tour. Could live without the title track. Even live it didn't grab me. If you're forcing me into the 3 categories, than "average"... [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 11:18:55 PST 2003 by herb4] the songs were cool live but it still is average 4 me especially being mades to feel like a banished lost sinner. |
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The Rainbow Children rates against previous Prince albums, as:
High: 39 votes Average: 9 votes Low: 1 vote  | |
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Alexa De Paris is a masterpiece TRC is not but it is differant |
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utopia7 said: Alexa De Paris is a masterpiece TRC is not but it is differant So what's your vote, utopia7?  | |
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Anji said: utopia7 said: Alexa De Paris is a masterpiece TRC is not but it is differant So what's your vote, utopia7? |
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High. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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The Rainbow Children for me is one album that i'll never love. Lyrically for the most part it alienates me and in terms of enjoyment i get more out of listening to selected cuts from Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic. However it's a far more accomplished album i just wish i could enjoy it. It's easy to respect but harder to fall in love with. I would rate it average overall though technically i'd rate it high. | |
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It's his most critically hailed album since SOTT - maybe you weren't around to read all the reviews that poured in on this site from different publications and web sites around the world, but the majority of them were very positive. And since WHEN does a Prince fan care about how many critics have it on their list anyway?
Hailed by whom?? Which critics?? Unknowns that don't mean a rats bottom in the music world. I think I read maybe one rewiew worthy of the "CRITICALLY HAILED" moniker. Out side of a few tunes I find this album to be somewhat of a snoozefest. As you can tell my rating on this is LOW. Again this is just my opinion. | |
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fairlite said: Hailed by whom?? Which critics?? Unknowns that don't mean a rats bottom in the music world. I think I read maybe one rewiew worthy of the "CRITICALLY HAILED" moniker.
I didn't stutter. I repeat: It's his most critically hailed album since SOTT - maybe you weren't around to read all the reviews that poured in on this site from different publications and web sites around the world, but the majority of them were very positive. And since WHEN does a Prince fan care about how many critics have it on their list anyway? Out side of a few tunes I find this album to be somewhat of a snoozefest. As you can tell my rating on this is LOW. Again this is just my opinion.
 [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 20:49:06 PST 2003 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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fairlite said: It's his most critically hailed album since SOTT - maybe you weren't around to read all the reviews that poured in on this site from different publications and web sites around the world, but the majority of them were very positive. And since WHEN does a Prince fan care about how many critics have it on their list anyway?
Hailed by whom?? Which critics?? Unknowns that don't mean a rats bottom in the music world. I think I read maybe one rewiew worthy of the "CRITICALLY HAILED" moniker. Out side of a few tunes I find this album to be somewhat of a snoozefest. As you can tell my rating on this is LOW. Again this is just my opinion. Now even the critics have to be popular to be relevant!   | |
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Brendan said: "The Truth" for me is just barely off my list, perhaps at 8 or 9. It so personal and so addictive. I just can't wear it out and its aging like fine wine. The same thing happened to me with "Parade", and with 5 or 10 more years of convincing perhaps I'll see "The Truth" even higher.
Now that I think about this quote, I realize I misinterpreted what you were saying, Brendan. You brought up his best 7 albums and said The Truth might be at 8 or 9. When you brought up the numbers 8 or 9 I thought you meant on a scale of 10. Anyway, yeah, of course I wouldn't put it up near the top of my list of 6 albums that I listed either. It would be at the bottom of those I listed.  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: fairlite said: Hailed by whom?? Which critics?? Unknowns that don't mean a rats bottom in the music world. I think I read maybe one rewiew worthy of the "CRITICALLY HAILED" moniker.
I didn't stutter. I repeat: It's his most critically hailed album since SOTT - maybe you weren't around to read all the reviews that poured in on this site from different publications and web sites around the world, but the majority of them were very positive. And since WHEN does a Prince fan care about how many critics have it on their list anyway? Out side of a few tunes I find this album to be somewhat of a snoozefest. As you can tell my rating on this is LOW. Again this is just my opinion.
[This message was edited Tue Mar 25 20:49:06 PST 2003 by Supernova] Since when does a fan HAVE to like an album he doesn't like. I voiced my OPINION, I am allowed to do so. Don't attack me and try to say I am not a fan. I have been listening to prince since I was 12 Years old and I am 31 now, I own everything he has released. I am sorry my feelings are that after TGE his releases have been for the most part sub-par, Emancipation would have been so much better if it were cut to 2 cd's, Crystal ball was amusing had some good tracks but alot of them were too bland, NPS was a waste of CD space, Rave was something that had a lot of potential some very good tunes again but still seemed a bit lazy. The ONA Piano CD is just a DEMO nothing more. I do like ONA LIVE good mix of tunes, heavy on TRC but that was also what he was promoting. I will say that the TRC tunes to me were more interesting live. I am still a fan and I will continue to buy his output but I do have the right to not like something and have the right to say how I feel without people jumping on me. Again this is my opinion do not bash me because my opinion dowsn't jive with yours. Peace [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 21:38:56 PST 2003 by fairlite] | |
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I will give TRC a C- it was a mediocre album.it is not a masterpiece. | |
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Supernova said: Brendan said: "The Truth" for me is just barely off my list, perhaps at 8 or 9. It so personal and so addictive. I just can't wear it out and its aging like fine wine. The same thing happened to me with "Parade", and with 5 or 10 more years of convincing perhaps I'll see "The Truth" even higher.
Now that I think about this quote, I realize I misinterpreted what you were saying, Brendan. You brought up his best 7 albums and said The Truth might be at 8 or 9. When you brought up the numbers 8 or 9 I thought you meant on a scale of 10. Anyway, yeah, of course I wouldn't put it up near the top of my list of 6 albums that I listed either. It would be at the bottom of those I listed.
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fairlite said: Supernova said: fairlite said: Hailed by whom?? Which critics?? Unknowns that don't mean a rats bottom in the music world. I think I read maybe one rewiew worthy of the "CRITICALLY HAILED" moniker.
I didn't stutter. I repeat: It's his most critically hailed album since SOTT - maybe you weren't around to read all the reviews that poured in on this site from different publications and web sites around the world, but the majority of them were very positive. And since WHEN does a Prince fan care about how many critics have it on their list anyway? Out side of a few tunes I find this album to be somewhat of a snoozefest. As you can tell my rating on this is LOW. Again this is just my opinion.
[This message was edited Tue Mar 25 20:49:06 PST 2003 by Supernova] Since when does a fan HAVE to like an album he doesn't like. Since when do you not realize that the emoticon means that I'm not concerned with your opinion of it? In case you don't understand, it means I don't really care. But if you're the same "madhouseman" that posted before, and included the phrases "our expectations", and "your desire for Prince to put out a classic album", some of us chimed in and in essence told you that you can only speak for yourself, because everybody obviously doesn't hold the same opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Since when can't we respond to that post by saying that?
I voiced my OPINION, I am allowed to do so. Don't attack me and try to say I am not a fan. I have been listening to prince since I was 12 Years old and I am 31 now, I own everything he has released. I am sorry my feelings are that after TGE his releases have been for the most part sub-par, Emancipation would have been so much better if it were cut to 2 cd's, Crystal ball was amusing had some good tracks but alot of them were too bland, NPS was a waste of CD space, Rave was something that had a lot of potential some very good tunes again but still seemed a bit lazy. The ONA Piano CD is just a DEMO nothing more. I do like ONA LIVE good mix of tunes, heavy on TRC but that was also what he was promoting. I will say that the TRC tunes to me were more interesting live.
I am still a fan and I will continue to buy his output but I do have the right to not like something and have the right to say how I feel without people jumping on me. Again this is my opinion do not bash me because my opinion dowsn't jive with yours. Peace [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 21:38:56 PST 2003 by fairlite]
See my above quote. And using the word "attack" for anything I or anyone else said to you in this thread is a HUGE overreaction. If you don't like our responses, there's no use in trying to speak for us - IF you are the "madhouseman" that posted earlier in this thread by including "our" opinions within your opinion. Otherwise it's really no biggie. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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I think it is cool that someone agrees with me. I stand by what I wrote, he hasn't had a classic album in a decade and a half... TRC included.
Sales of 100-200,000 do not a classic album make. Granted, one cannot rate artistic relevence on sales alone, but DAMN! This is Prince baby. Shouldn't the man be selling more? Whats up with that. Maybe people don't like it. Someone even wrote "better than Purple Rain". Wow. Now that is just wrong! lol. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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Not that you need my vote, lol, but HIGH    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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rdhull said: herb4 said: Somewhere in between "High" and "average". Parts of it or wonderful, but I'm STILL waiting for the next Prince CD since "Sign O' the Times" that I can spin end to end, without dashing across the room for the track skip button.
It and Hot Thing  What in the fuckin' fuck???  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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For the record, I rate The Rainbow Children highly.
Supernova said: In chronological order: Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, The Truth, and TRC. I'm really intrigued by this. I know that many, many people rate The Truth highly, but I would never have imagined it to be included in a list like this. I know your opinions are well cultivated, Supernova, so I'm especially interested in finding out which particular tracks you think justify comparison with these other albums. To be honest I find The Truth fairly bland and lacking any real spark. I don't hate it, but it doesn't seem exceptional in any way beyond the fact that it features Prince in an acoustic setting. I realise conveying one's feelings about music in words is a bit like groping for something in the dark, but I'd at least be interested in which particular songs you like. [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 23:33:55 PST 2003 by fairmoan] | |
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The Rainbow Children rates against previous Prince albums, as:
High: 41 votes Average: 12 votes Low: 1 vote :WOOT: | |
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Ultimately, there is no point accounting for taste. You either dig whatever, or don't...
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madhouseman said: I think it is cool that someone agrees with me. I stand by what I wrote, he hasn't had a classic album in a decade and a half... TRC included.
Decade&Half Echos My Exact Sentiments.Sales of 100-200,000 do not a classic album make. Granted, one cannot rate artistic relevence on sales alone, but DAMN! This is Prince baby. Shouldn't the man be selling more? Whats up with that. Maybe people don't like it. Someone even wrote "better than Purple Rain". Wow. Now that is just wrong! lol. mistermaxxx | |
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Its a good album in these days and times it needs 2 b heard.I give it a high.LEADERS, STAND UP ORGANIZE!!! CRSTYLE NEW POWER THOUGHTS AND STATEMENTS!! | |
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High. At first Ill be honest and admit i didnt like it...it threw me and the preaching vocals really put me off. However several listens whilst nursing a hangover later (its a great album to listen to in bed), my opinion changed completely.
BTW Prince classics IMO: Dirty Mind 1999 Purple Rain Parade SOTT Lovesexy The Truth The Rainbow Children. My acid test for this is whether i can listen to the album and repeatedly find something new that makes me think, shit...this was a good album. | |
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according to my count there are at least two votes that TRC is LOW on the list. Please update so I don't feel so alone among these fans! The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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The Rainbow Children rates against previous Prince albums, as:
High: 43 votes Average: 12 votes Low: 2 votes [This message was edited Wed Mar 26 22:47:47 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
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High. Just outside my top five or so... | |
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