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PrintableAnji said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Brendan said: One of his 7 masterpieces: SOTT, 1999, Lovesexy, Parade, TRC, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind
I guess that would rate as "High".  I concur with Brendan, and I rate it high...but I'm of the opposite opinion when it comes to his masterpieces. What do you think are Prince's masterpiece(s), Super? In chronological order: Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, The Truth, and TRC. But, there are definitely songs here and there from various albums that I consider to be masterful, even if I don't think they're contained on top tier albums. Such as "Joy In Repitition" and "The Question of U" from GB, "I Wonder U" from Parade, or "Anna Stesia" from Lovesexy, etc. And yes, I know how much most of the hardcores here are in love with Lovesexy, but as an album it's never been one of his finest hours to me. Actually, I am too when I really think about it.  Considering I still think it's one of those unfinished songs from the album that we had a discussion about weeks ago. It's just one of those songs on the album that I'd put the album on specifically for. I don't think he sings on it.
Also, I'm surprised that, as an entire album, The Truth makes your very select list of classics..
It's a compact little album where for the first time in a long time I heard him becoming curious and inventive again. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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madhouseman said: Low.
Sadly our expectations from him have dropped. It is an average album at best compared to much of his brilliant work. The lyrics are weak and racist. They playing is brilliant, but considering the list of classics he has written, this album is a watered down chaser. He hasn't had a classic album in 15 years. This album would be probably not even be noticed if it wasn't for being a Prince album. The public has voted. Find me a dozen people who have this in their collection outside of us fanatics. Now go and find me a critic's list that has this as a must have classic. Alright then. Don't let your desire for Prince to put out a classic album cloud your thoughts. That "Feast" song is bad enough to bring the album down from classic right off the bat and there ain't no one out there gonna convince me that it is a great tune. A classic album is good from start to finish. This just don't cut da mustard babies. Your opinion would be cool with me if you hadn't gone and included me in it. I don't remember being consulted or interviewed for this piece. And if I was and forgot, I was misquoted!  | |
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Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Brendan said: One of his 7 masterpieces: SOTT, 1999, Lovesexy, Parade, TRC, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind
I guess that would rate as "High". I concur with Brendan, and I rate it high...but I'm of the opposite opinion when it comes to his masterpieces. What do you think are Prince's masterpiece(s), Super? In chronological order: Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, The Truth, and TRC. But, there are definitely songs here and there from various albums that I consider to be masterful, even if I don't think they're contained on top tier albums. Such as "Joy In Repitition" and "The Question of U" from GB, "I Wonder U" from Parade, or "Anna Stesia" from Lovesexy, etc. And yes, I know how much most of the hardcores here are in love with Lovesexy, but as an album it's never been one of his finest hours to me. Actually, I am too when I really think about it. Considering I still think it's one of those unfinished songs from the album that we had a discussion about weeks ago. It's just one of those songs on the album that I'd put the album on specifically for. I don't think he sings on it.
Also, I'm surprised that, as an entire album, The Truth makes your very select list of classics..
It's a compact little album where for the first time in a long time I heard him becoming curious and inventive again. [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:14:43 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
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madhouseman said: Sadly our expectations from him have dropped.
If those expectations include expecting something "innovative" at every release, yeah, I'd say most fans don't have such unrealistic expectations of an artist who puts out as much material as the short dude. This album would be probably not even be noticed if it wasn't for being a Prince album. The public has voted. Find me a dozen people who have this in their collection outside of us fanatics. Now go and find me a critic's list that has this as a must have classic. Alright then.
It's his most critically hailed album since SOTT - maybe you weren't around to read all the reviews that poured in on this site from different publications and web sites around the world, but the majority of them were very positive. And since WHEN does a Prince fan care about how many critics have it on their list anyway? This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Brendan said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Brendan said: One of his 7 masterpieces: SOTT, 1999, Lovesexy, Parade, TRC, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind
I guess that would rate as "High". I concur with Brendan, and I rate it high...but I'm of the opposite opinion when it comes to his masterpieces. What do you think are Prince's masterpiece(s), Super? In chronological order: Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, The Truth, and TRC. But, there are definitely songs here and there from various albums that I consider to be masterful, even if I don't think they're contained on top tier albums. Such as "Joy In Repitition" and "The Question of U" from GB, "I Wonder U" from Parade, or "Anna Stesia" from Lovesexy, etc. And yes, I know how much most of the hardcores here are in love with Lovesexy, but as an album it's never been one of his finest hours to me. Very nice, Super. 
"Lovesexy" to me is the album I pick up to prove Prince's production genius. Put those 9 songs in anyone else's hands and you have, well, 9 songs. That's one of the reasons I love "TRC" so much, as it's a return at least in part to the genius production skills found on "Lovesexy" and "1999". Of course it also helps that it's loaded with exceptional songwriting. "The Truth" for me is just barely off my list, perhaps at 8 or 9. It so personal and so addictive. I just can't wear it out and its aging like fine wine. The same thing happened to me with "Parade", and with 5 or 10 more years of convincing perhaps I'll see "The Truth" even higher. Right, I don't believe The Truth is a 10 on a 1-10 scale, but neither are all of those I that I listed as top tier albums. This is like driving a motorcycle through a minefield, but; I don't consider SOTT a 10 on a 1-10 scale either. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Anji said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Brendan said: One of his 7 masterpieces: SOTT, 1999, Lovesexy, Parade, TRC, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind
I guess that would rate as "High". I concur with Brendan, and I rate it high...but I'm of the opposite opinion when it comes to his masterpieces. What do you think are Prince's masterpiece(s), Super? In chronological order: Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, The Truth, and TRC. But, there are definitely songs here and there from various albums that I consider to be masterful, even if I don't think they're contained on top tier albums. Such as "Joy In Repitition" and "The Question of U" from GB, "I Wonder U" from Parade, or "Anna Stesia" from Lovesexy, etc. And yes, I know how much most of the hardcores here are in love with Lovesexy, but as an album it's never been one of his finest hours to me. Actually, I am too when I really think about it. Considering I still think it's one of those unfinished songs from the album that we had a discussion about weeks ago. It's just one of those songs on the album that I'd put the album on specifically for. I don't think he sings on it.
Also, I'm surprised that, as an entire album, The Truth makes your very select list of classics..
It's a compact little album where for the first time in a long time I heard him becoming curious and inventive again.
[This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:14:43 PST 2003 by Anji] Inventiveness doesn't signify "classic"? I beg to differ. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: madhouseman said: Sadly our expectations from him have dropped.
If those expectations include expecting something "innovative" at every release, yeah, I'd say most fans don't have such unrealistic expectations of an artist who puts out as much material as the short dude. well yeah, but you'd expect something in the last 10-15 years. i mean, even just once | |
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AaronFantastic said: Supernova said: madhouseman said: Sadly our expectations from him have dropped.
If those expectations include expecting something "innovative" at every release, yeah, I'd say most fans don't have such unrealistic expectations of an artist who puts out as much material as the short dude. well yeah, but you'd expect something in the last 10-15 years. i mean, even just once You don't really mean that do you? | |
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TRON said: AaronFantastic said: Supernova said: madhouseman said: Sadly our expectations from him have dropped.
If those expectations include expecting something "innovative" at every release, yeah, I'd say most fans don't have such unrealistic expectations of an artist who puts out as much material as the short dude. well yeah, but you'd expect something in the last 10-15 years. i mean, even just once You don't really mean that do you? what has he done with his music that was truly innovative in the last 10-15 years? much of it's great, but it doesn't break down any barriers or push the envelope, post-Lovesexy [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:21:53 PST 2003 by AaronFantastic] | |
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I'd say "high". It can hold it's own even when compared to
some of Prince's 80's catalogue. Not saying it is better or anything, it's too different for that. But purely as something unexpected and real, yes it did surprise me enormously and I've grown to like it a lot. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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AaronFantastic said: TRON said: AaronFantastic said: Supernova said: madhouseman said: Sadly our expectations from him have dropped.
If those expectations include expecting something "innovative" at every release, yeah, I'd say most fans don't have such unrealistic expectations of an artist who puts out as much material as the short dude. well yeah, but you'd expect something in the last 10-15 years. i mean, even just once You don't really mean that do you? what has he done with his music that was truly innovative in the last 10-15 years? much of it's great, but it doesn't break down any barriers or push the envelope, post-Lovesexy [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:21:53 PST 2003 by AaronFantastic] I can think of a lot of examples. But it'll take me awhile to make my point. I'll get back to this tomorrow. | |
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Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Anji said: Supernova said: Brendan said: One of his 7 masterpieces: SOTT, 1999, Lovesexy, Parade, TRC, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind
I guess that would rate as "High". I concur with Brendan, and I rate it high...but I'm of the opposite opinion when it comes to his masterpieces. What do you think are Prince's masterpiece(s), Super? In chronological order: Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT, The Truth, and TRC. But, there are definitely songs here and there from various albums that I consider to be masterful, even if I don't think they're contained on top tier albums. Such as "Joy In Repitition" and "The Question of U" from GB, "I Wonder U" from Parade, or "Anna Stesia" from Lovesexy, etc. And yes, I know how much most of the hardcores here are in love with Lovesexy, but as an album it's never been one of his finest hours to me. Actually, I am too when I really think about it. Considering I still think it's one of those unfinished songs from the album that we had a discussion about weeks ago. It's just one of those songs on the album that I'd put the album on specifically for. I don't think he sings on it.
Also, I'm surprised that, as an entire album, The Truth makes your very select list of classics..
It's a compact little album where for the first time in a long time I heard him becoming curious and inventive again.
[This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:14:43 PST 2003 by Anji] Inventiveness doesn't signify "classic"? I beg to differ. Personally speaking, I just don't think The Truth, as an overall album, quite reaches that level of classic status that Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain or Sign 'O' The Times do. Perhaps, time will change my mind... . [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:41:37 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
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Anji said: Personally speaking, I just don't think The Truth, as an overall album, quite reaches that level of classic status that Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain or Sign 'O' The Times do. Perhaps, time will change my mind...
. [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:41:37 PST 2003 by Anji] That could possibly be because for an album to be deemed a classic it must stand the test of time. The Truth is, what, 5 years old? From those you list above the youngest one is almost 16 years old. I also added TRC to the list, but that's less than 2 years old. Initially we were talking about masterpieces, and I said that they were albums I considered his top tier albums. That, I do. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: Anji said: Personally speaking, I just don't think The Truth, as an overall album, quite reaches that level of classic status that Dirty Mind, 1999, Purple Rain or Sign 'O' The Times do. Perhaps, time will change my mind...
. [This message was edited Mon Mar 24 23:41:37 PST 2003 by Anji] That could possibly be because for an album to be deemed a classic it must stand the test of time. The Truth is, what, 5 years old? From those you list above the youngest one is almost 16 years old. I also added TRC to the list, but that's less than 2 years old. Initially we were talking about masterpieces, and I said that they were albums I considered his top tier albums. That, I do. Ah, I guess we do agree on what Prince's top tier albums are. Likewise, both The Truth and The Rainbow Children get my vote from that perspective. | |
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High | |
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The Rainbow Children rates against previous Prince albums, as:
High: 16 votes Average: 3 votes Low: 1 vote  | |
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Don't forget my vote- High!
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The Rainbow Children --- HIGH!!! | |
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The Rainbow Children rates against previous Prince albums, as:
High: 18 votes Average: 3 votes Low: 1 vote | |
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Anji said: ...against Prince's previous albums?
Please choose from one of the following opinions: - High (as in good) - Average (as in indifferent) - Low (as in bad) My opinion is high. What's yours?  High (as in good) [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 1:22:16 PST 2003 by JohnnyTheFox] | |
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HIGH !
I adore this album and the tour! | |
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High
Love the album. The first time I heard it my jaw fell open and I'm still having trouble eating from the awe!!
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MrBliss said: high! this album has restored my faith in the guy... i love it
Same here, I was about to give up on him after Rave. I actually think TRC is my all-time favorite Prince album (well, maybe that should be Parade). I love the fact that it's very well played (real instruments), that it's very jazzy, soulful and funky (not too much rock), and I love the production and flow of the album. Too bad about some of the lyrics, but that doesn't spoil my experience in the end... RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... |
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High. That album took me on a journey. It's a novel on CD of sorts, IMO and definitely took me delving deeper into my head to appreciate it. Not only that, though, for the music itself is wonderful. I like to put on some of those melodies, close my eyes, and lay for awhile. | |
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madhouseman said: Low.
Sadly our expectations from him have dropped. It is an average album at best compared to much of his brilliant work. The lyrics are weak and racist. They playing is brilliant, but considering the list of classics he has written, this album is a watered down chaser. He hasn't had a classic album in 15 years. This album would be probably not even be noticed if it wasn't for being a Prince album. The public has voted. Find me a dozen people who have this in their collection outside of us fanatics. Now go and find me a critic's list that has this as a must have classic. Alright then. Don't let your desire for Prince to put out a classic album cloud your thoughts. That "Feast" song is bad enough to bring the album down from classic right off the bat and there ain't no one out there gonna convince me that it is a great tune. A classic album is good from start to finish. This just don't cut da mustard babies. Personally speaking, I NEVER have had to have the public dictate what music I like and what music I don't. I have many albums that I'm sure not many people may have in their collection. And??? Basically, at the end of the day, my collection is just that, MY collection. It should reflect who I am and what I enjoy...to hell with the "public". (But yes, I DO have some music that is more widely considered "good" as well, but I have it because I was partial to it...) Just stating my very humble opinion...to each their own... | |
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High!
Ah yeah! Mesage from the Happy Sunshine | |
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madhouseman said: Low.
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Sadly our expectations from him have dropped. It is an average album at best compared to much of his brilliant work. The lyrics are weak and racist. They playing is brilliant, but considering the list of classics he has written, this album is a watered down chaser. He hasn't had a classic album in 15 years. This album would be probably not even be noticed if it wasn't for being a Prince album. The public has voted. Find me a dozen people who have this in their collection outside of us fanatics. Now go and find me a critic's list that has this as a must have classic. Alright then. Don't let your desire for Prince to put out a classic album cloud your thoughts. That "Feast" song is bad enough to bring the album down from classic right off the bat and there ain't no one out there gonna convince me that it is a great tune. A classic album is good from start to finish. This just don't cut da mustard babies. I think you were asked for your opinion on the album rather than others' ability to think objectively, and as somone who has been dissapointed by most of his albums over the last 10 yrs or so I don't think my expectations of him have dropped or that my judgment is clouded. No disrespect, but it isn't good to patronise. As to the album, I would rate it as 'high' I loved it when it came out and still play it loads. Whether or not I agree with his current views (I don't), or the music he is into these days (I do), is immaterial - what I love is that HE is into those things - the result being it is the first album in many years with any heart and soul in it. [This message was edited Tue Mar 25 3:24:28 PST 2003 by vivid] | |
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So xtremely HIGH, that I fell listening to it. Da Da Da - boom boom - dada dada - dada d a d a da da da - da da - 
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