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Thread started 08/17/15 5:09am

thedance

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Prince and "the edge"

Has Prince lost "the edge"??

(and, no it's not the guitarman in U2 I'm talking about)


"Life Can Be So Nice" is sharp as a knife... and so is most of Prince's 80's songs.. and -albums.


Can Prince do it again..... make edgy music?

Or is Prince a star burned out, struggeling..... tamed... what do u think about "the edge" + Prince?

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Reply #1 posted 08/17/15 5:11am

Marco81

thedance said:

Has Prince lost "the edge"??

(and, no it's not the guitarman in U2 I'm talking about)


"Life Can Be So Nice" is sharp as a knife... and so is most of Prince's 80's songs.. and -albums.


Can Prince do it again..... make edgy music?

Or is Prince a star burned out, struggeling..... tamed... what do u think about "the edge" + Prince?

He is already, you just did not notice.

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Reply #2 posted 08/17/15 5:12am

thedance

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HardRockLover actually has some of the old edgy magic, that could be a good sign for the new album (I hope).. however Baltimore is tame and outwatered, not worthy for Prince imo...

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Reply #3 posted 08/17/15 5:26am

databank

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thedance said:

Has Prince lost "the edge"??

(and, no it's not the guitarman in U2 I'm talking about)


"Life Can Be So Nice" is sharp as a knife... and so is most of Prince's 80's songs.. and -albums.


Can Prince do it again..... make edgy music?

Or is Prince a star burned out, struggeling..... tamed... what do u think about "the edge" + Prince?

The efforts and imagination you deploy to create your weekly "Prince is over and done" thread under different titles/an,gles are pretty impressive. U sure did NOT lose your edge.

But I say lockdance

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Reply #4 posted 08/17/15 5:54am

Marco81

databank said:

thedance said:

Has Prince lost "the edge"??

(and, no it's not the guitarman in U2 I'm talking about)


"Life Can Be So Nice" is sharp as a knife... and so is most of Prince's 80's songs.. and -albums.


Can Prince do it again..... make edgy music?

Or is Prince a star burned out, struggeling..... tamed... what do u think about "the edge" + Prince?

The efforts and imagination you deploy to create your weekly "Prince is over and done" thread under different titles/an,gles are pretty impressive. U sure did NOT lose your edge.

But I say lockdance

His next post will for sure be about bashing down the song Stare once more...

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Reply #5 posted 08/17/15 6:08am

khelm9

thedance said:

HardRockLover actually has some of the old edgy magic, that could be a good sign for the new album (I hope).. however Baltimore is tame and outwatered, not worthy for Prince imo...

This 100%

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Reply #6 posted 08/17/15 6:16am

fabriziovenera
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After N.E.W.S. seems Prince want to be Prince. So, we will hear music we have hear in past.

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Reply #7 posted 08/17/15 6:29am

Guitarhero

Prince seems to of loss his edge , he needs something to spark him again , but when will that happen, maybe the new album will have something like the Prince we remmember. yes

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Reply #8 posted 08/17/15 7:03am

antonb

Just because you don't write songs about having sex with your sister anymore doesn't mean you have lost your edge. Do you mean can he write songs like he did in the eighties. I think he can , just not as often or as frequent. Prince was in his prime back in the eighties/early nineties.Its no big deal, I still enjoy his music and performances. And I think he is a better musician now.
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/15 7:18am

luvsexy4all

who sent all these people on to the org to excrete all over the place???

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Reply #10 posted 08/17/15 1:03pm

Angelsoncrack

I'm 99.999% sure Prince visits 4chan

Prince is not edgy, he IS edge

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Reply #11 posted 08/17/15 1:23pm

pray4rain

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databank said:

thedance said:

Has Prince lost "the edge"??

(and, no it's not the guitarman in U2 I'm talking about)


"Life Can Be So Nice" is sharp as a knife... and so is most of Prince's 80's songs.. and -albums.


Can Prince do it again..... make edgy music?

Or is Prince a star burned out, struggeling..... tamed... what do u think about "the edge" + Prince?

The efforts and imagination you deploy to create your weekly "Prince is over and done" thread under different titles/an,gles are pretty impressive. U sure did NOT lose your edge.

But I say lockdance

Please Databank, what is this "lock this thread" BS? If you don't care to discuss something, simply skip the thread, no one is asking for your opinion if you don't care for a specific topic.

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Reply #12 posted 08/17/15 1:34pm

V10LETBLUES

thedance said:

Has Prince lost "the edge"??

(and, no it's not the guitarman in U2 I'm talking about)


"Life Can Be So Nice" is sharp as a knife... and so is most of Prince's 80's songs.. and -albums.


Can Prince do it again..... make edgy music?

Or is Prince a star burned out, struggeling..... tamed... what do u think about "the edge" + Prince?



Yeah all of his 80's music had a hard ass sharp edge. I think it's becasue his mind was too.

But I will also say that both Hardrocklover and Stare the sharpest things he done in a while, so maybe he still has it in him in bits and starts.

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Reply #13 posted 08/17/15 1:59pm

RodeoSchro

He's 57. No 57-year-old is going to make the same kind of music they made as a 27-year-old.

It is what it is - for every artist. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Reply #14 posted 08/17/15 4:30pm

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I'd say he has but it is to be expected he is almost 60yrs old your gonna loose something along the way. I think we could benefit greatly by collaborating with he Revolution once again or Questlove. He's still more talented than most cats out there.
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Reply #15 posted 08/17/15 6:41pm

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When Prince released Life Can Be So Nice, it wasn't hailed as edgy, but as further proof he was being self-indulgent and lnsing it.
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Reply #16 posted 08/17/15 7:12pm

V10LETBLUES

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When Prince released Life Can Be So Nice, it wasn't hailed as edgy, but as further proof he was being self-indulgent and lnsing it.


Who said that? It matters who. Like the same people who call Planet Earth dull or boring vs cornball amateurish cheese like AOA as better. Like those who call Mnplsound a gift to those who love Parade. It's always about the source, then you let it go at that
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Reply #17 posted 08/17/15 7:50pm

Aerogram

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V10LETBLUES said:

Aerogram said:

When Prince released Life Can Be So Nice, it wasn't hailed as edgy, but as further proof he was being self-indulgent and lnsing it.


Who said that? It matters who. Like the same people who call Planet Earth dull or boring vs cornball amateurish cheese like AOA as better. Like those who call Mnplsound a gift to those who love Parade. It's always about the source, then you let it go at that


Prince himself said he did not have enough good material at the time of Parade. That was about a year or two later.

Not that I agree. If you had read the press at the time, the reaction to Oarade wasn't universal praise, he was criticized for being self-indulgent and tacks like Life... Do u lie, the first tracks before girls and boys...were often seen as underdeveloped.

I loved Parade then and I do now, I guess people who were not old enough back then imagine all of his music was praised until batman. Not really, he was criticized for ATWIAD and part of Parade.
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Reply #18 posted 08/17/15 8:02pm

V10LETBLUES

Any music critic who shitted Parade has shown whether he is qualified or to be taken seriously, same as those who lathered praise onto Mnplsound. The Internet never forgets who said what
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Reply #19 posted 08/17/15 8:15pm

feeluupp

PARADE = GREAT

AOA = AVERAGE

PLANET EARTH = DULL

MPLS = CRAP

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Reply #20 posted 08/17/15 9:06pm

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pray4rain said:

databank said:

The efforts and imagination you deploy to create your weekly "Prince is over and done" thread under different titles/an,gles are pretty impressive. U sure did NOT lose your edge.

But I say lockdance

Please Databank, what is this "lock this thread" BS? If you don't care to discuss something, simply skip the thread, no one is asking for your opinion if you don't care for a specific topic.

Nowadays people write nonsense online in the name of their "entitled freedom of speech". Calling a stop to nonsense is my own entitled freedom of speech nod

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Reply #21 posted 08/17/15 11:14pm

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databank said:

pray4rain said:

Please Databank, what is this "lock this thread" BS? If you don't care to discuss something, simply skip the thread, no one is asking for your opinion if you don't care for a specific topic.

Nowadays people write nonsense online in the name of their "entitled freedom of speech". Calling a stop to nonsense is my own entitled freedom of speech nod

Following this line of logic you can post "lock this thread" on every second thread herre on the org. My advice: save yuorself some time, leave to others what is "nonsense or not" to them, skip these threads and use your time on different fora with more serious issues, like freedom of speech.

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Reply #22 posted 08/18/15 3:21am

Aerogram

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V10LETBLUES said:

Any music critic who shitted Parade has shown whether he is qualified or to be taken seriously, same as those who lathered praise onto Mnplsound. The Internet never forgets who said what

There was a backlash going on after Purple Rain Mania and while Kiss restored some of the good faith, Parade and UTCM were seen as symptoms the backlasher had a point. Also, there was no internet back then, though we did have running water and did not go unwashed.

Your theory that critics were so much better back then is flimsy, reviewers were always for the most part very influenced by trends that blinded them to qualities and flaws. A strong bias goes a long way, as you know well.

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Reply #23 posted 08/18/15 7:56am

paulludvig

daingermouz2020 said:

I'd say he has but it is to be expected he is almost 60yrs old your gonna loose something along the way. I think we could benefit greatly by collaborating with he Revolution once again or Questlove. He's still more talented than most cats out there.

Revisiting the past is not edgy.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #24 posted 08/18/15 8:28am

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Aerogram said:



V10LETBLUES said:


Any music critic who shitted Parade has shown whether he is qualified or to be taken seriously, same as those who lathered praise onto Mnplsound. The Internet never forgets who said what


There was a backlash going on after Purple Rain Mania and while Kiss restored some of the good faith, Parade and UTCM were seen as symptoms the backlasher had a point. Also, there was no internet back then, though we did have running water and did not go unwashed.



Your theory that critics were so much better back then is flimsy, reviewers were always for the most part very influenced by trends that blinded them to qualities and flaws. A strong bias goes a long way, as you know well.




These are great points. People forget that, in the USA, general audiences were not super hot for Prince's post PurpleRain material. Sure, there were hit singles, but it was viewed as a Prince being self indulgent. As genius as the 1985-1988 albums are viewed now, they were not viewed that way then.
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Reply #25 posted 08/18/15 8:31am

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Aerogram said:



V10LETBLUES said:


Any music critic who shitted Parade has shown whether he is qualified or to be taken seriously, same as those who lathered praise onto Mnplsound. The Internet never forgets who said what


There was a backlash going on after Purple Rain Mania and while Kiss restored some of the good faith, Parade and UTCM were seen as symptoms the backlasher had a point. Also, there was no internet back then, though we did have running water and did not go unwashed.



Your theory that critics were so much better back then is flimsy, reviewers were always for the most part very influenced by trends that blinded them to qualities and flaws. A strong bias goes a long way, as you know well.




These are great points. People forget that, in the USA, general audiences were not super hot for Prince's post PurpleRain material. Sure, there were hit singles, but it was viewed as a Prince being self indulgent. As genius as the 1985-1988 albums are viewed now, they were not viewed that way then.
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Reply #26 posted 08/18/15 10:12am

khelm9

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Aerogram said:

There was a backlash going on after Purple Rain Mania and while Kiss restored some of the good faith, Parade and UTCM were seen as symptoms the backlasher had a point. Also, there was no internet back then, though we did have running water and did not go unwashed.

Your theory that critics were so much better back then is flimsy, reviewers were always for the most part very influenced by trends that blinded them to qualities and flaws. A strong bias goes a long way, as you know well.

These are great points. People forget that, in the USA, general audiences were not super hot for Prince's post PurpleRain material. Sure, there were hit singles, but it was viewed as a Prince being self indulgent. As genius as the 1985-1988 albums are viewed now, they were not viewed that way then.

Sign O'The Times was hailed as genius almost unanimously upon it's release and still is.

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Reply #27 posted 08/18/15 10:23am

feeluupp

skywalker said:

Aerogram said:

There was a backlash going on after Purple Rain Mania and while Kiss restored some of the good faith, Parade and UTCM were seen as symptoms the backlasher had a point. Also, there was no internet back then, though we did have running water and did not go unwashed.

Your theory that critics were so much better back then is flimsy, reviewers were always for the most part very influenced by trends that blinded them to qualities and flaws. A strong bias goes a long way, as you know well.

These are great points. People forget that, in the USA, general audiences were not super hot for Prince's post PurpleRain material. Sure, there were hit singles, but it was viewed as a Prince being self indulgent. As genius as the 1985-1988 albums are viewed now, they were not viewed that way then.

I completly agree. It is a good point you brought up in the USA... In terms of popularity and commercial performance in the USA, it was 1999, Purple Rain and Diamonds and Pearls that all sold great in the U.S. However his "genius" material AWTIAD, PARADE, SIGN O THE TIMES, LOVESEXY all sold low numbers in the U.S. which I believe that is why Prince focused on touring more in Europe during 86-88... Remember Lovesexy tour in the U.S. according to Alex Hans book were playing in front of mostly empty stadiums... Besides major cities like New York, L.A. Chicago, the tour was not a sell out at all, it didn't even sell out during the opening show in Minneapolis.

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Reply #28 posted 08/18/15 4:18pm

MoBettaBliss

i think 'life can be so nice' is a really well chosen example to make your point... what an absolute gem of a song

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Reply #29 posted 08/18/15 5:43pm

CharismaDove

feeluupp said:

skywalker said:

Aerogram said: These are great points. People forget that, in the USA, general audiences were not super hot for Prince's post PurpleRain material. Sure, there were hit singles, but it was viewed as a Prince being self indulgent. As genius as the 1985-1988 albums are viewed now, they were not viewed that way then.

I completly agree. It is a good point you brought up in the USA... In terms of popularity and commercial performance in the USA, it was 1999, Purple Rain and Diamonds and Pearls that all sold great in the U.S. However his "genius" material AWTIAD, PARADE, SIGN O THE TIMES, LOVESEXY all sold low numbers in the U.S. which I believe that is why Prince focused on touring more in Europe during 86-88... Remember Lovesexy tour in the U.S. according to Alex Hans book were playing in front of mostly empty stadiums... Besides major cities like New York, L.A. Chicago, the tour was not a sell out at all, it didn't even sell out during the opening show in Minneapolis.


Not surprising. While he was/is one of the biggest stars of all time, I always thought he was underappreciated by critics/award shows and such. But since 2004, it's been a different story. It's like the media wants to make up to Prince all the times they made him out to be an out-of-touch fool in the '90s (although he didn't do much to reverse this opinion). But I mean, since then, he's gotten more Grammy noms than he did in the '80s, and for songs like Cinnamon Girl and Future Baby Mama. And critics lately love to salivate at anything Prince releases or anywhere he performs.

Again, not surprising. People tend to be appreciated after their time is done. After Prince ceased to be a pop star and more of a musical legend, he gained the respect of the masses (I would say Superbowl 2007 was the biggest aid in this). Similarly, MJ was villfied as a washed-up pop star before his death; even at times his albums would sell 25 million+ or 13 million+, the media would love to play it off like it was a failure while praising other artists who sold less as "successful." And now since his death, try saying something bad about him lol . People don't appreciate what they get till it's gone. And in this case, the 'gone' is Prince's pop star days. Just IMO..

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