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Thread started 07/27/15 10:29am

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The Amazing Sessions

As it's well documented that Prince would record multiple songs in a day, I though we could blow each others minds by posting dates and what was recorded on them. For example...

7 August 1982 - 1999 & Little Red Corvette & Mia Bocca @ Kiowa Home Studio (Initial Tracking)

3 August 1983 - I Would Die For U & Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain @ First Avenue (Initial Tracking)
30 December 1983 - Erotic City & She's Always In My Hair @ Sunset Sound (Initial Tracking for ER, final for SAIMH)

28 September 1986 - One & Two @ Galpin Blvd Home Studio (String Overdubs)

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Reply #1 posted 07/27/15 1:06pm

lwr001

bluegangsta said:

As it's well documented that Prince would record multiple songs in a day, I though we could blow each others minds by posting dates and what was recorded on them. For example...

7 August 1982 - 1999 & Little Red Corvette & Mia Bocca @ Kiowa Home Studio (Initial Tracking)

3 August 1983 - I Would Die For U & Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain @ First Avenue (Initial Tracking)
30 December 1983 - Erotic City & She's Always In My Hair @ Sunset Sound (Initial Tracking for ER, final for SAIMH)

28 September 1986 - One & Two @ Galpin Blvd Home Studio (String Overdubs)

thats amazing..

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Reply #2 posted 07/27/15 1:38pm

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Not as impressive as you think. Bob Dylan once recorded an entire album in one evening.
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Reply #3 posted 07/27/15 2:04pm

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^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!

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Reply #4 posted 07/27/15 2:06pm

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Not as impressive as you think. Bob Dylan once recorded an entire album in one evening.

DR. DRE DID an NWA album in 4 hours!!!!!

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Reply #5 posted 07/27/15 2:24pm

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NorthC said:

Not as impressive as you think. Bob Dylan once recorded an entire album in one evening.

DR. DRE DID an NWA album in 4 hours!!!!!



I bet that's twice as long as it takes to record most rap albums. razz

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Reply #6 posted 07/27/15 2:26pm

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October 6th 1988. 2 recordings and a remix. I suppose that he was so involved in the studio in Chanhassen, MN. that day that he had to reschedule a concert in Landover, MD. to be played October 11th 1988 instead. (princevault)
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Reply #7 posted 07/27/15 2:29pm

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Reply #8 posted 07/27/15 2:32pm

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That's my brothers birthday. My birthday is so far a light day for recording. lol
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Reply #9 posted 07/27/15 3:25pm

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bluegangsta said:

As it's well documented that Prince would record multiple songs in a day, I though we could blow each others minds by posting dates and what was recorded on them. For example...

7 August 1982 - 1999 & Little Red Corvette & Mia Bocca @ Kiowa Home Studio (Initial Tracking)

3 August 1983 - I Would Die For U & Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain @ First Avenue (Initial Tracking)
30 December 1983 - Erotic City & She's Always In My Hair @ Sunset Sound (Initial Tracking for ER, final for SAIMH)

28 September 1986 - One & Two @ Galpin Blvd Home Studio (String Overdubs)

He did a lot of amazing things in the studio, but 1999/LRC/Mia Bocca weren't all recorded on the same date.

IWD4U, BIAS and PR were recorded on that date, but it was based on a live event. If that is the case, then it would be fair to say that his '84 birthday show was equally amazing as well because it contained several songs being premiered and used as the basis for future tracks including Roadhouse Garden, Our Destiny and All Day, All Night.

Also, Erotic City and She's Always were not recorded on the same date as well.

Again, Prince did some incredible things in the studio, but these are a few of the legends that just aren't true.

The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/
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Reply #10 posted 07/27/15 10:36pm

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madhouseman said:

bluegangsta said:

As it's well documented that Prince would record multiple songs in a day, I though we could blow each others minds by posting dates and what was recorded on them. For example...

7 August 1982 - 1999 & Little Red Corvette & Mia Bocca @ Kiowa Home Studio (Initial Tracking)

3 August 1983 - I Would Die For U & Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain @ First Avenue (Initial Tracking)
30 December 1983 - Erotic City & She's Always In My Hair @ Sunset Sound (Initial Tracking for ER, final for SAIMH)

28 September 1986 - One & Two @ Galpin Blvd Home Studio (String Overdubs)

He did a lot of amazing things in the studio, but 1999/LRC/Mia Bocca weren't all recorded on the same date.

IWD4U, BIAS and PR were recorded on that date, but it was based on a live event. If that is the case, then it would be fair to say that his '84 birthday show was equally amazing as well because it contained several songs being premiered and used as the basis for future tracks including Roadhouse Garden, Our Destiny and All Day, All Night.

Also, Erotic City and She's Always were not recorded on the same date as well.

Again, Prince did some incredible things in the studio, but these are a few of the legends that just aren't true.

These are the dates posted on Princevault. Do you have any evidence to refute those claims?

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Reply #11 posted 07/28/15 12:30am

NorthC

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^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!


Have you ever actually listened to his music? Anyway, my point was that Prince really isn't the only one who can work fast.
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Reply #12 posted 07/28/15 5:49am

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NorthC said:

thedance said:

^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!


Have you ever actually listened to his music? Anyway, my point was that Prince really isn't the only one who can work fast.
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Bob Dylan would be faster just because he doesn't stack vocals, and he doesn't re-sing sour notes. Lol
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Reply #13 posted 07/28/15 5:52am

TrevorAyer

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^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!


I'll take dylan over p on garbage like hardrock lover any day of the week

Dylan is an outstanding singer

Prince singing has bored me to death the last 2 decades and its all so polished and safe with no truth or grit to it. Dylan never shamed himself using auto tune ... Prince did
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Reply #14 posted 07/28/15 5:54am

lwr001

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thedance said:

^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!

I'll take dylan over p on garbage like hardrock lover any day of the week Dylan is an outstanding singer Prince singing has bored me to death the last 2 decades and its all so polished and safe with no truth or grit to it. Dylan never shamed himself using auto tune ... Prince did

bored you to death for 2 decades,, read what u wrote yet here you fucking are..you must love punishment or you are a liar

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Reply #15 posted 07/28/15 5:55am

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TrevorAyer said:

I'll take dylan

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Reply #16 posted 07/28/15 6:04am

jdcxc

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thedance said:

^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!


I'll take dylan over p on garbage like hardrock lover any day of the week

Dylan is an outstanding singer

Prince singing has bored me to death the last 2 decades and its all so polished and safe with no truth or grit to it. Dylan never shamed himself using auto tune ... Prince did


Wow...another nominee for the Tin Ear Hall of Fame.

Bob Dylan has alot of brilliant skills and singing isn't one of them. Prince has the most complex falsetto this side of Al Green and an octave range that would make Dylan cry. Listen to the rich history of Black American singers before you make that ridiculous statement. Autotune cmon? Dylan has been making the same record for thirty years.
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Reply #17 posted 07/28/15 7:42am

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bluegangsta said:

madhouseman said:

He did a lot of amazing things in the studio, but 1999/LRC/Mia Bocca weren't all recorded on the same date.

IWD4U, BIAS and PR were recorded on that date, but it was based on a live event. If that is the case, then it would be fair to say that his '84 birthday show was equally amazing as well because it contained several songs being premiered and used as the basis for future tracks including Roadhouse Garden, Our Destiny and All Day, All Night.

Also, Erotic City and She's Always were not recorded on the same date as well.

Again, Prince did some incredible things in the studio, but these are a few of the legends that just aren't true.

These are the dates posted on Princevault. Do you have any evidence to refute those claims?

Madhouseman you have me puzzled here.

The Vault book in 2004 didn't acknowledge this one day session for 1999/MB/LRC so I thought Princevault's statement came from a more recent discovery.

As for SAIMH and EC IDK what The Vault says but it's on Princevault as such.

I know the folks from Princevault usually don't post unsourced information, however I know you have done this astounding research for your books series project so I'll take your word for anything you say. However I'd be curious to know what are your sources and new infos regarding those recording dates and (if you have a clue) how come Nielsen and/or the Princevault team got different data.

By all means Princevault needs to correct its entries if you have new information that contradicts past research nod

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
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Reply #18 posted 07/28/15 7:45am

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bluegangsta said:

As it's well documented that Prince would record multiple songs in a day, I though we could blow each others minds by posting dates and what was recorded on them. For example...

7 August 1982 - 1999 & Little Red Corvette & Mia Bocca @ Kiowa Home Studio (Initial Tracking)

3 August 1983 - I Would Die For U & Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain @ First Avenue (Initial Tracking)
30 December 1983 - Erotic City & She's Always In My Hair @ Sunset Sound (Initial Tracking for ER, final for SAIMH)

28 September 1986 - One & Two @ Galpin Blvd Home Studio (String Overdubs)

Recording CT'sP, IWU, NP and UTCM in a single take without any previous demos was pretty impressive IMHO nod

Recording NEWS in a take was pretty cool, too.

However we need to keep in mind that many of the most acclaimed, classic jazz albums were recorded in a day or two, during semi-improvisation sessions, so while impressive by pop standards this is not so by jazz standards.

Still, even though it seems it didn't, in fact happen, I was pretty mind-blown when I first read that 1999, LCR and MB had been recorded in a single day, that would have been pretty impressive given how efficient and inspired those three tracks are nod

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Reply #19 posted 07/28/15 8:01am

Stimpy

watch the documentary on "the wrecking crew" and you will see the GREATEST collection of musical session players (including John Blackwell's dad Charley and WEndy's dad as well) EVER.

they played on almost EVERY record released in the 1960's and early 1970's and often did 5 sessions a day often 15 hours at a stretch.

THEY did an album in hours sometimes.

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Reply #20 posted 07/28/15 2:12pm

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A) I'll take BOTH Dylan and Prince. They're two of the greatest artists ever. Two of my favorites. And the 3rd and 4th greatest Minnesotans ever, behind King Sausage (1st place) and Joel from MST3K (2nd place). Honorable shout outs to Hubert Humphrey and Paul Wellstone, but let's not get political.

B) What are we talking about again?

C) Oh yeah, studio dates. Erotic City and She's Always In My Hair on the same day. Holy shit.
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Reply #21 posted 07/28/15 3:14pm

TrevorAyer

lwr001 said:



TrevorAyer said:


thedance said:

^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!



I'll take dylan over p on garbage like hardrock lover any day of the week Dylan is an outstanding singer Prince singing has bored me to death the last 2 decades and its all so polished and safe with no truth or grit to it. Dylan never shamed himself using auto tune ... Prince did



bored you to death for 2 decades,, read what u wrote yet here you fucking are..you must love punishment or you are a liar



How about a third option ... I'll always check out new prince out of curiosity ... The punishment would be listening to hardrawk lover more than once ... Which i wont do cuz its garbage ... Prince and dylan will always have my ear ... They earned it long ago .. But dylan really is a great singer ... I cant stAnd those corn syrup covers of his songs other people have hits with .. Dylan has more late era gems than p by a mile .. I know some dont like his voice but i do ... Its real and he sings great ... P does a lot more annoying stuff with his singing these days ... Hardrawk lover being a freat example of p voice worsening an already horrible song that hes convinced five people is his next hit ... Not really raggin on p ... Just defending dylan
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Reply #22 posted 07/28/15 3:23pm

TrevorAyer

jdcxc said:

TrevorAyer said:


I'll take dylan over p on garbage like hardrock lover any day of the week

Dylan is an outstanding singer

Prince singing has bored me to death the last 2 decades and its all so polished and safe with no truth or grit to it. Dylan never shamed himself using auto tune ... Prince did


Wow...another nominee for the Tin Ear Hall of Fame.

Bob Dylan has alot of brilliant skills and singing isn't one of them. Prince has the most complex falsetto this side of Al Green and an octave range that would make Dylan cry. Listen to the rich history of Black American singers before you make that ridiculous statement. Autotune cmon? Dylan has been making the same record for thirty years.
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Ha i disagree .. It is p making the same record over and over ... He even uses the same stupid lyrics over and over ... The same melodies .. The same beats .. The same basslines and keyboard stabs (when he's not ripping off the golden girls theme). Dylan still makes outstanding and different music than before ... In fact he pissed of his entire fan base yet became more popular than ever before .. Rolling stone is considered the best rock song of all time and rightly so ... P indeed has one of the best falsettos .. He just has not done anything interesting with it in quite some time .. And yes i was and still am disappointed that p of all people would butcher his own gift with auto tune ... It really shows how far he has fallen from being relevant to even his own fans ..
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Reply #23 posted 07/28/15 3:26pm

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ennio morricone has done 500 movie soundtracks. ha

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #24 posted 07/29/15 6:02am

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bluegangsta said:

3 August 1983 - I Would Die For U & Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain @ First Avenue (Initial Tracking)

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That's not a studio session.

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Reply #25 posted 07/30/15 12:07am

madhouseman

databank said:

bluegangsta said:

These are the dates posted on Princevault. Do you have any evidence to refute those claims?

Madhouseman you have me puzzled here.

The Vault book in 2004 didn't acknowledge this one day session for 1999/MB/LRC so I thought Princevault's statement came from a more recent discovery.

As for SAIMH and EC IDK what The Vault says but it's on Princevault as such.

I know the folks from Princevault usually don't post unsourced information, however I know you have done this astounding research for your books series project so I'll take your word for anything you say. However I'd be curious to know what are your sources and new infos regarding those recording dates and (if you have a clue) how come Nielsen and/or the Princevault team got different data.

By all means Princevault needs to correct its entries if you have new information that contradicts past research nod

I have just wrapped up the first draft of my book about his studio sessions. I'm working on some fixes, so I hope to have it out in the near future. Not sure if it will be by the end of the year, but if not, then soon after that. Once it is done, I need to find a publisher.

Regarding the research, my sources are from the actual studio, WB's vault and several other unpublished sources including personal diaries and almost 200 hours of interviews with those involved with the sessions. I'm really excited about it. It covers 1983/84 only, but as I recall, there are between 150 -200 sessions that are documented in the book.

The guys from Princevault are the most dedicated archivists you can find. They are amazing and have the best information on the web about Prince's music. I've known some of them for years because a lot of us wrote/researched for Uptown magazine/Per Nilsen. They are very familiar with the book and I'm sure that PV will be updated once the book comes out.

Thanx for the chance to talk about it. I'm looking forward to it finally coming out because it has been in the works for 20 freakin' years. lol

The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/
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Reply #26 posted 07/30/15 2:25am

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TAKE MY MONEY
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Reply #27 posted 07/30/15 2:11pm

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KingSausage said:

TAKE MY MONEY


Lol. Looking forward to it being finished.
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Reply #28 posted 07/31/15 2:53am

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madhouseman said:

Once it is done, I need to find a publisher.

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Don't get your hopes up. I'd say: self-publish. If it is a success, there's always a chance a publisher might get interested. That's what happened to Alan Sepinwall with his book "The Revolution Was Televised: The Cops, Crooks, Slingers, and Slayers Who Changed TV Drama Forever" (see also his FAQ).

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Get it out there, and I'll buy it the second it is released.

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Reply #29 posted 07/31/15 3:19am

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TrevorAyer said:

thedance said:

^ F*ck Bob Dylan... because he really can't sing... lol


He's a great song writer though!

I'll take dylan over p on garbage like hardrock lover any day of the week Dylan is an outstanding singer

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