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Thread started 07/30/15 5:03pm

feeluupp

Technical Malfunction on I Don't Wanna Leave U

I posted this several times in other threads and got no responses... I also just recently posted about this in the embarassing moments thread and finally someone noticed as well...

The malfunction on I Don't Wanna Leave U at the 6:00 mark... The transition is an obvious malfunction that I think Prince didn't notice at the time and kept it on the album...

I beleieve all though I have no proof besides the actual song itself, that this part is a technical error, and probably the only technical error that Prince didn't know about that was let in one of his albums... The other technical error which was noticed and was allowed was the recroding of If I Was Ur Girlfriend which he ended up liking the distortion effect according to Susan Rodgers.

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Reply #1 posted 07/30/15 5:24pm

EddieC

feeluupp said:

I posted this several times in other threads and got no responses... I also just recently posted about this in the embarassing moments thread and finally someone noticed as well...

The malfunction on I Don't Wanna Leave U at the 6:00 mark... The transition is an obvious malfunction that I think Prince didn't notice at the time and kept it on the album...

I beleieve all though I have no proof besides the actual song itself, that this part is a technical error, and probably the only technical error that Prince didn't know about that was let in one of his albums... The other technical error which was noticed and was allowed was the recroding of If I Was Ur Girlfriend which he ended up liking the distortion effect according to Susan Rodgers.

It's just a hard edit isn't it, not an actual glitch or error? I always assumed it was intentional... no clear idea for an ending, so we just slam this completely different passage down over a going nowhere vamp. Pretty much akin to the needle being pulled off the record on Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody. Both sides of the album end in similarly jarring ways, with the songs simply interrupted by something extraneous to the natural progression of the song.

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Reply #2 posted 07/30/15 6:12pm

kidmelody2012

feeluupp said:

I posted this several times in other threads and got no responses... I also just recently posted about this in the embarassing moments thread and finally someone noticed as well...

The malfunction on I Don't Wanna Leave U at the 6:00 mark... The transition is an obvious malfunction that I think Prince didn't notice at the time and kept it on the album...

I beleieve all though I have no proof besides the actual song itself, that this part is a technical error, and probably the only technical error that Prince didn't know about that was let in one of his albums... The other technical error which was noticed and was allowed was the recroding of If I Was Ur Girlfriend which he ended up liking the distortion effect according to Susan Rodgers.

PRINCE WAS TIRED AND VANITY WANTED TO GIVE HIM SOME BOOOTY SO HE JUST ENDED IT LIKE THAT...

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Reply #3 posted 07/30/15 8:21pm

SoulAlive

I like that "malfunction"! It was a clever way to end that song....changing the groove.

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Reply #4 posted 08/01/15 8:22am

imprimis

This track has at least two very identifiable edits. It is evidently a much longer composition than appears on 'What Time Is It?'. This song has been said to be one of the least fitting tracks appearing on a Time record, and I believe they have performed it live only once. And it would work much better as a Prince effort (he is actually co-lead in the mix in many parts). Did P decide to give them a track flagged specifically for his own next album, to fill in the void for a second ballad on 'What Time Is It?', after he decided to retain 'International Lover' earlier in the year (which ends up serving the role as the 'Do Me Baby' equivalent for '1999', with its stage-antics type of monologue, etc. Perhaps, also, it was seen as too similar in tone to 'Gigolos Get Lonely Too' [recorded just three days before IL])?

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Reply #5 posted 08/01/15 8:56am

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I LOVE this so. I always thought it was an intentional move. Maybe an extended version out there in the vault. Sort of reminds me of Neon Telephones ending.

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Reply #6 posted 08/01/15 11:18am

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feeluupp said:

I posted this several times in other threads and got no responses... I also just recently posted about this in the embarassing moments thread and finally someone noticed as well...

The malfunction on I Don't Wanna Leave U at the 6:00 mark... The transition is an obvious malfunction that I think Prince didn't notice at the time and kept it on the album...

I beleieve all though I have no proof besides the actual song itself, that this part is a technical error, and probably the only technical error that Prince didn't know about that was let in one of his albums... The other technical error which was noticed and was allowed was the recroding of If I Was Ur Girlfriend which he ended up liking the distortion effect according to Susan Rodgers.

falloff at the intensity of your conviction creating a thread and all wink

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It's an interesting theory. Maybe Madhouseman will find out. There have been other SOTT "accidents" than IIWYG according to Nilsen, notably FIML (the background vox not synched) and accelerating the track of UGTL and deciding it was better that way could almost be called an accident as well.

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There are also troubling sound issues with the sound of some early albums ("krshh" sound on DMSR, obvious saturation on ATWIAD, particularly The Ladder), things that look unintentional and you'd think they could have been corrected and weren't. As Susan R. said once, many tracks were recorded on the fly, sometimes on the road while touring, and the engineering on those albums isn't comparable to the standards of other superstars from that time.

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However regarding IDWLY it's really hard to say. You could have the exact same speculation about the abrupt ending of Life Can Be So Nice and indeed in thatcase too it's possible that the end of the track was mistakenly erased and Prince thought wow that's cool. But both "incidents" could also be Prince deciding to do something really fucked up. If you read the story of how Tricky's Maxinquaye was made (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun07/articles/classictracks_0607.htm, a must read if u ask me as this was kind of the 1999 of the 90's), there's this part:

"I'm not sure where the whiney backward guitar riff came from. It may well have been something I played, and then Tricky would have wanted it backwards. I mean, you couldn't play a riff without him going, 'No, no, that sounds too normal,' whereas if you made a mistake he'd go, 'Yeah, I love it, I love it! Now put it down an octave and make it backwards.' That's probably how that part came about, and immediately afterwards Tricky was like, 'That's it, we're done!'"

Incidentally, before even reading this story that's something I'd already done myself on some texts and songs and I know other artists, including painters, who did it to some of their works, something sounds/looks just too "clean", too ordinary and you suddenly decide to trash it a little bit by doing somethiing fucked up and then suddenly u got what u wanted.

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So I say u have an interesting theory and it could absolutely be true, but until someone who was there speaks about how it was done (same with LCBSN), we just have no way of knowing. I hope Madhouseman did or will ask.

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