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Thread started 07/10/15 3:50am

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The Who Replaced Prince at Glastonbury 2015

According to their site:

"(Not many know that we were a last-months addition to the show, replacing Prince who decided not to come this year.)"

http://thewho.com/28-june...-somerset/


And:

http://www.u.tv/Entertain...bury-40760


http://www.independent.co...80102.html

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Reply #1 posted 07/10/15 4:43am

mattj

djfine said:

According to their site:

"(Not many know that we were a last-months addition to the show, replacing Prince who decided not to come this year.)"

http://thewho.com/28-june...-somerset/


And:

http://www.u.tv/Entertain...bury-40760


http://www.independent.co...80102.html

Do we think this was a oppurtunity missed ?? or was it just not the right time...

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Reply #2 posted 07/10/15 5:30am

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Prince is messing with them. They should think about what kind of fee they would offer him.... and then double it, because if he did it, it would go down as THE greatest Glastonbury performance of all time.

Kanye, Foo Fighters (I know they had to cancel cos Dave broke his leg), Florence & The Machine.... ain't none of these cats anywhere NEAR P's level as a live performer.

Year in, year out, he's topped the list of who the Glasto crowd would like to see the most. Those folks ain't ready yet.

Part of me thinks he shouldn't do it, because the crowd wouldn't be his crowd. The tickets sell out way before they even announce the headline acts. Not that he needs HIS crowd, it's just better when he does. That's what was so good about Hop Farm Festival in 2011 - we were all able to get tickets, and I personally knew at least 50 of us Purple Hippies there, and spent the show in a state of bliss knowing we were all on the same level.



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Reply #3 posted 07/10/15 6:14am

antonb

I would love prince to do Glastonbury. And put in a great Prince performance. Before he gets too old to put in the kind of performance we know he is capable of.It would blow peoples mind.But he seems to have fallen out with them .Also he would never allow them to show his full concert.Unless they paid him massive bucks.
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Reply #4 posted 07/10/15 6:29am

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Prince's reason for not doing Glastonbury is often assumed to be money but the following may also be factors:

- the televisation of Glastonbury performances

- everyone who's anyone seems to do Glastonbury, maybe he doesn't want to conform.

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Reply #5 posted 07/10/15 6:53am

Pentacle


No, it can't be the money. Because if you're as rich as Prince you're all about the music.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #6 posted 07/10/15 7:00am

RodeoSchro

How can you replace someone who never committed to come in the first place?

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Reply #7 posted 07/10/15 8:19am

Militant

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RodeoSchro said:

How can you replace someone who never committed to come in the first place?

Exactly.

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Reply #8 posted 07/10/15 9:14am

tatocorcu

andymacfunky said:

Prince's reason for not doing Glastonbury is often assumed to be money but the following may also be factors:


- the televisation of Glastonbury performances


- everyone who's anyone seems to do Glastonbury, maybe he doesn't want to conform.


I think it's the tv broadcast that he has issues with - which is stupid, as it would bring his music to such a wide new audience... But it's his call
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Reply #9 posted 07/10/15 11:51am

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It is pretty backward thinking if it's about it being televised. A captive fucking audience live or on iplayer potentially into every home in the country. And if he kills it. Which he would, he'd hook in a fuckload more fans and sales of his albums, purple rain and the hits at the very least.
Comin str8 outta Preston...
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Reply #10 posted 07/10/15 12:21pm

antonb

Look at bloody Lional richie!!

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Reply #11 posted 07/10/15 12:27pm

thisisreece

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It is pretty backward thinking if it's about it being televised. A captive fucking audience live or on iplayer potentially into every home in the country. And if he kills it. Which he would, he'd hook in a fuckload more fans and sales of his albums, purple rain and the hits at the very least.

This. Prince doing Glastonbury has no down side. He'd kick ass and get a lot more fans - it's probably the best and most assured way in which he could. The only thing he could do, is capitalise on it more by coinciding it with an album release.

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Reply #12 posted 07/10/15 12:28pm

RodeoSchro

mikeyaddict said:

It is pretty backward thinking if it's about it being televised. A captive fucking audience live or on iplayer potentially into every home in the country. And if he kills it. Which he would, he'd hook in a fuckload more fans and sales of his albums, purple rain and the hits at the very least.



I agree 100%. But I do know there's such a thing as saturation.

For instance, if the goal of playing Glastonbury is to sell tickets for a tour immediately thereafter, then there's a risk that many who saw the free TV telecast will say, "Why pay to go to the show in my town when I just saw that show for free on TV?"

I'd take that risk, though. I'm sure there's years of tour sale statistics Prince could analyze to see how acts that played Glastonbury and then toured the UK/Europe did.

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Reply #13 posted 07/10/15 4:25pm

dandan

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because if he did it, it would go down as THE greatest Glastonbury performance of all time.


Not with 3rdEyeGirl it wouldn't.
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Reply #14 posted 07/11/15 8:59am

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dandan said:

Militant said:
because if he did it, it would go down as THE greatest Glastonbury performance of all time.
Not with 3rdEyeGirl it wouldn't.

I've seen Prince 14 times across two continents playing with lots of different bands.

The best show - by far - was with 3rd Eye Girl.

9th February 2014, Shepherd's Bush.

3rd Eye Girl are more than capable of delivering the greatest Glastonbury performance ever.

btw, I also know a thing or two about Glastonbury - back in 2007 my band were listed as one of the Top Five acts to see at the whole festival by The Guardian's official miniguide that everyone at the festival is given.

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Reply #15 posted 07/11/15 10:32am

stillwaiting

Militant said:

Prince is messing with them. They should think about what kind of fee they would offer him.... and then double it, because if he did it, it would go down as THE greatest Glastonbury performance of all time.

Kanye, Foo Fighters (I know they had to cancel cos Dave broke his leg), Florence & The Machine.... ain't none of these cats anywhere NEAR P's level as a live performer.

Year in, year out, he's topped the list of who the Glasto crowd would like to see the most. Those folks ain't ready yet.

Part of me thinks he shouldn't do it, because the crowd wouldn't be his crowd. The tickets sell out way before they even announce the headline acts. Not that he needs HIS crowd, it's just better when he does. That's what was so good about Hop Farm Festival in 2011 - we were all able to get tickets, and I personally knew at least 50 of us Purple Hippies there, and spent the show in a state of bliss knowing we were all on the same level.



I so wish I agreed with you. If it was the 2002 or 2004 shows, it would be. For some of the 3EG shows of 2013/14 it would be. But if we get an NPG show with 25 minutes of Prince Sampler Karaoke and Shelby shouting Put Your Hands Up at the top of her lungs, it would be an ok but very inconsistent performance.

At big shows, he tends to be much more the entertainer and much less the serious musician. At the Essence festival, he sleepwalked his way through a good show that could have been so much better. On "Controversy" for example, he was doing his trademark screams over and over, hyping the crowd up leaving out most of the lyrics. Prince is the greatest live performer who ever lived, but even the greatest going through the motions is still not good enough.

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Reply #16 posted 07/12/15 4:45am

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stillwaiting said:

Militant said:

Prince is messing with them. They should think about what kind of fee they would offer him.... and then double it, because if he did it, it would go down as THE greatest Glastonbury performance of all time.

Kanye, Foo Fighters (I know they had to cancel cos Dave broke his leg), Florence & The Machine.... ain't none of these cats anywhere NEAR P's level as a live performer.

Year in, year out, he's topped the list of who the Glasto crowd would like to see the most. Those folks ain't ready yet.

Part of me thinks he shouldn't do it, because the crowd wouldn't be his crowd. The tickets sell out way before they even announce the headline acts. Not that he needs HIS crowd, it's just better when he does. That's what was so good about Hop Farm Festival in 2011 - we were all able to get tickets, and I personally knew at least 50 of us Purple Hippies there, and spent the show in a state of bliss knowing we were all on the same level.



I so wish I agreed with you. If it was the 2002 or 2004 shows, it would be. For some of the 3EG shows of 2013/14 it would be. But if we get an NPG show with 25 minutes of Prince Sampler Karaoke and Shelby shouting Put Your Hands Up at the top of her lungs, it would be an ok but very inconsistent performance.

At big shows, he tends to be much more the entertainer and much less the serious musician. At the Essence festival, he sleepwalked his way through a good show that could have been so much better. On "Controversy" for example, he was doing his trademark screams over and over, hyping the crowd up leaving out most of the lyrics. Prince is the greatest live performer who ever lived, but even the greatest going through the motions is still not good enough.


I think the problem with Essence is that he took a rock band to a black festival. No matter how you slice it, 3EG is a rock band - who can pull off funk/soul to a degree with a few supplemental members like Cassy O'Neal on keys. Ida can play funk...... Donna and Hannah are not funk players. They are great rock musicians.

Glastonbury is a rock festival more than anything else. If he went there, he should do a show that's halfway between the "Hit & Run Part 1" shows like the one I saw at Shepherd's Bush, and the "Hit & Run Part 2" arena shows where Josh and Cassy were with them. Plus a small horn section, and a couple of suitable covers (like when he did "Creep" at Coachella).

Prince knows how to put a set together to suit the show.

I just think for Essence, he ought to have had John Blackwell on drums. Mike Scott on guitar, maybe.

I love Donna and Hannah and I still say the 3EG show at Shep Bush is THE best Prince show I've ever seen.... but it worked because it was a guitar heavy set.

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Reply #17 posted 07/12/15 6:30am

dandan

Militant said:



dandan said:


Militant said:
because if he did it, it would go down as THE greatest Glastonbury performance of all time.

Not with 3rdEyeGirl it wouldn't.


I've seen Prince 14 times across two continents playing with lots of different bands.



The best show - by far - was with 3rd Eye Girl.



9th February 2014, Shepherd's Bush.



3rd Eye Girl are more than capable of delivering the greatest Glastonbury performance ever.




btw, I also know a thing or two about Glastonbury - back in 2007 my band were listed as one of the Top Five acts to see at the whole festival by The Guardian's official miniguide that everyone at the festival is given.



I've seen 3EG 5 times now and they're just not up to the standard one comes to expect from Prince. Yes, they're a rock band, but not a particularly good one. The NPG he had for the Musicology tour, for example, were more than capable of delivering rock to the same standard, if not better, than 3EG. The difference is of course, the NPG weren't limited to that one genre. Any session musician worth their salt (especially the world class players P hires) can play rock to the standard of 3EG, which is average at best. The only thing 3EG bring to the table is limits. John Blackwell, Renato, Rhonda, Maceo Parker? Hot damn son! That's the standard Prince's music deserves. I'm tired of him having to shoehorn his incredible music into a rock outfit.
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Reply #18 posted 07/12/15 7:21am

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RodeoSchro said:

How can you replace someone who never committed to come in the first place?


lol If this is just some wishful thinking then my wish is Ravinia
Pavilion, Highland Park, Il. 2015/16/17/etc. It's 10 minutes from my house!
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