Romeoblu said:

This and Crystal City Cry ( Ingrid Chavez) are pretty much the same song, same basic tracks.

I knew it sounded familiar, but couldnt place where i'd heard it. Thanks!

Quite the elusive song... Very interested in hearing it.

How long is the song??

Very elusive, like the other "leaks"

SoulAlive said:

I haven't heard it yet.To those of you who have....do you think it would have fit perfectly on Madonna's Like A Prayer album? Or did she make the right decision by not including it on her album?

No way. It's too much for her. And too weird. She made the right choice.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

SoulAlive said:

I haven't heard it yet.To those of you who have....do you think it would have fit perfectly on Madonna's Like A Prayer album? Or did she make the right decision by not including it on her album?

No way. It's too much for her. And too weird. She made the right choice.

Weird in a good way?

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paulludvig said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

No way. It's too much for her. And too weird. She made the right choice.

Weird in a good way?

If you're into weird, sure. I appreciate a song that keeps you guessing where it's going. But I can see some people not liking it because of the sing-songy cheesiness of the melody.

That ecstasy trip really messed him up, didn't it? That is what this is about, right?--yes, there's some talk of suicide, but I think that's as a potential result of things going badly.

Interesting song. The combination of sing-a-long melody, unorthodox instrumentation and enigmatic lyrics really works.

Don't put my hands on this one yet...humm

love2thenines2003 said:

Don't put my hands on this one yet...humm

Strange trax ...Unorthodox tune from Prince but i like it.....so different from what Prince does 2day like a predictable & POOR trax like BALTIMORE

Haven't found it yet but it sounds like this could be like "Others Here With Us"! dying to hear this one.

Finally heard it. Very Batman sounding and yes a little strange. I like how the ending gets all funky!

Hasn't leaked where I drink from yet. lol. I hate not knowing shit. lol. You fucks. kisses

What fucked up lyrics. He just does not do that no mo. His brain was jacked--by...

Quirky and interesting - I like it.

It's a bit "trying too hard", IMHO. More a bunch of ideas thrown together than an actual song. Almost like he tried to show Madonna "look how weird I am".

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Also got a bit of a "must note this down and perhaps flesh some of this out later" vide from it.

BartVanHemelen said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Obsessed with the lyrics.

Is it far

This place that we're going 2?

Is it someplace that I

Want 2 go?

Do we get there alone

Or by alien means?

When I go

Will I ever return?

What makes a girl of 17

Look 4 comfort within suicide?

Does she get there alone

Or by alien means?

When she's dead

How will she ever know?

1100 flying children

Rave until they drop.

1100 more will 2

Until the flying stops.

Until alternative ways of action.

Equal airborne satisfaction.

13 year old lookouts

Layin 4 the cops.

Get ur hands off me, Sammy!

Alien...

Is there really joy in this place

That we're going 2?

Everlasting joy.

Does it last 4 3 hours or more?

Do we get there alone

Or by alien means?

Which one will U live 4?

Alien...

I'll try it.

Don't wanna go out by alien means. No.

Explore the interplanetary field inside ur mind.

But don't U go out, don't U go out

By alien means.

Serve it up, Frances.

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see if the 2 BOLD changes are correct or not...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Obsessed with the lyrics.

Is it far

This place that we're going 2?

Is it someplace that I

Want 2 go?

Do we get there alone

Or by alien means?

When I go

Will I ever return?

What makes a girl of 17

Look 4 comfort within suicide?

Does she get there alone

Or by alien means?

When she's dead

How will she ever know?

1100 flying children

Rave until they drop.

1100 more will 2

Until the flying stops.

Until alternative ways of action.

Equal airborne satisfaction.

13 year old lookouts

Layin 4 the cops.

Get ur hands off me, Sammy!

Alien...

Is there really joy in this place

That we're going 2?

Everlasting joy.

Does it last 4 3 hours or more?

Do we get there alone

Or by alien means?

Which one will U live 4?

Alien...

I'll try it.

Don't wanna go out by alien means. No.

Explore the interplanetary field inside ur mind.

But don't U go out, don't U go out

By alien means.

Serve it up, Frances.

[Edited 5/8/15 21:57pm]

see if the 2 BOLD changes are correct or not...

Yep, absolutely correct on both changes. Thanks!

I like the lyrics. Looking forward to this one, it hasn't hit my neck of the woods yet. Aint seen the new Can I Play With U? lying around on the streets yet either.

Hope this river keeps on flowing. I'm getting old waiting for Prince to finally let this stuff out.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

see if the 2 BOLD changes are correct or not...

Yep, absolutely correct on both changes. Thanks!

Isnt the last line "Serve it up Prince"? Like, how Madonna would have been supposed to sing it?

Boy, this needs Inspector Clouseau to track it down...

Revolution81 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Yep, absolutely correct on both changes. Thanks!

Isnt the last line "Serve it up Prince"? Like, how Madonna would have been supposed to sing it?

yep

Revolution81 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Yep, absolutely correct on both changes. Thanks!

Isnt the last line "Serve it up Prince"? Like, how Madonna would have been supposed to sing it?

I wonder how many of you are looking at this one through rose colored 80's glasses. It's just okay in my opinion.

xpertluva said:

I wonder how many of you are looking at this one through rose colored 80's glasses. It's just okay in my opinion.

They are because, compared to Baltimore out now..yeah not sure why this is getting rave reviews. This is alright, its slow and kinda cheesy then turns into his 90's chant stuff he started doing around that time.

Defenitley not Like A Prayer material. It started off strong but he kinda took it off course, and sounds unfinished. More so Ingrid Chavez like. I can defenitley see why it was turned down and unreleased but nice to hear it anyway Always liked the title.

paisleypark4 said:

xpertluva said:

I wonder how many of you are looking at this one through rose colored 80's glasses. It's just okay in my opinion.

They are because, compared to Baltimore out now..yeah not sure why this is getting rave reviews. This is alright, its slow and kinda cheesy then turns into his 90's chant stuff he started doing around that time.

Defenitley not Like A Prayer material. It started off strong but he kinda took it off course, and sounds unfinished. More so Ingrid Chavez like. I can defenitley see why it was turned down and unreleased but nice to hear it anyway Always liked the title.

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This appears to be a jumble, or sketch, of musical and lyrical ideas, some of them individually strong (but brief and never completely realized), superimposed onto the structure and some of the backing tracks of an even earlier (possibly ~late 1987) outtake. The transition to a 'funk workout' towards the end is not unlike parts of 'It's a Wonderful Day' (or its instrumental excerpt in UTCM).

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The song concludes with an ever-so-important late-1980s 'public service announcement'-worthy message (here, an admonition against teenage suicide, and, perhaps, the circumstances behind adolescent drug abuse). Is this Prince's 'Close My Eyes Forever'?

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Did he think this track could serve Madonna as a Lovesexified positive, constructive, redemptive, uncritical campaign for youth, providing edge without risking controversy like the previous album's 'Papa Don't Preach'?

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Alhough one would expect a far more conventional pop track of a collaboration between two of the largest recording artists in the world, it seems well intended if misguided.

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While this is clearly a demo, I imagine P would have considered this to be close to being a finished track. What it is lacking cannot be made up by production alone, which is why the track is branded as bizarre and doesn't work in the end.

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I believe Prince revamped this specifically for Madonna, rather than simply offering her an existing, pre-configured outtake from the Vault.

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He may even be loosely attempting to stay within the limits of her vocal range and styling on the 'sing-songy' (guide?) vocals.

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It appears to be envisioned as a duet, with some sections as individual solos, some parts together-- back and forth.

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I believe [0:01 - 0:43] are meant to be sung by Madonna alone, [0:50 - 1:30] Madonna and Prince, breakdown at [1:38 - 2:19] Prince alone, etc., the 'rap' delivered at the end Prince with some interplay with Madonna ('Serve It Up, Prince').

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The initial 43 seconds are to me the most interesting part. Treading in similar territory to 'Others Here With Us', enigmatic and macabre, even vaguely sinister.

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The opening 43 seconds have been arranged to, or at least happen to mirror, the organ-backed (or in this case moody strings in their place) 'confessional', extended-narrative introduction approach of the 'Like a Prayer' (the song). [I do not mean to suggest this song is at the production standard of that massively successful track]

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He may have already heard demo versions of, or made his studio contributions to, the 'Like A Prayer' tracks by the time he resolved to put this one together.

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'By Alien Means' actually is not entirely far removed in spirit from the 'Oh, Father', 'Act of Contrition', 'Supernatural' and 'Promise to Try'-artsy and introspective pretentious elements of the 'Like a Prayer' album and era, but filtered through the weirdness of Prince's Lovesexy/Rave/Batman-era sensibilities.

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I wouldn't fully rule out the [remote] possibility that Madonna recorded some vocal tracks for this song, even though it had virtually no chance of making the album.

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The existence of 'By Alien Means' seems to have been very well documented in the Madonna community, from at least the early 1990s, before perhaps even most Prince elite collectors and traders were aware, for a track it is said she simply really didn't like and nixed. Is the suggestion that the song was simply so bad (or weird) that its name was remembered even years later by her behind-the-scenes people? It is not at all incompatible with Madonna's own penchant for pretention and quizzicalness during this phase of her career.

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She did, after all, record the [not very much better from a standpoint of commercial or critical achievement] 'Love Song'.

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A song like this wouldn't be an entirely unwelcome addition to the 'Graffiti Bridge' film or soundtrack, after failing to beat the appreciable odds against it as a Madonna-Prince effort on 'Like a Prayer'.

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[Edited 5/9/15 23:40pm]