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Thread started 04/23/15 11:27am

Averett

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Prince vs Sheila E vs Morris Day...

Who is without doubt the better drummer out of these three?

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Reply #1 posted 04/23/15 12:54pm

KoolEaze

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Prince.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #2 posted 04/23/15 2:02pm

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Prince. Can anybody name at least three GREAT Prince songs that he played drums on? I could go to PrinceVault, but I'm too lazy.

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Reply #3 posted 04/23/15 2:09pm

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luv2tha99s said:

Prince. Can anybody name at least three GREAT Prince songs that he played drums on? I could go to PrinceVault, but I'm too lazy.

Not really GREAT songs but I find it very impressive that he played the drum parts of the first three songs on the Parade album in just one take.

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Reply #4 posted 04/23/15 6:36pm

motherfunka

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Sheila E

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #5 posted 04/23/15 8:14pm

terrig

That pic of sheila totally captures how incredible it must feel to be a drummer. <3

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Reply #6 posted 04/23/15 8:23pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Sadly we haven't heard enough of Morris Day

I would say Sheila E, even though I love Princes wild sometimes off drumming(remembering the Flesh sessions)

Morris Day I remember on Party Up live 1982 and he played on Let's Work from Controversy

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, after posting the Time thread, there are a good number of songs Morris Day played drums on for those 3 albums. I need to give those particular tracks a new listen, along with Let's Work.

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I will get back to U on this answer.

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Reply #7 posted 04/23/15 8:36pm

Ego101

Pretty Much every song on his 1st 3-4 albums featured Prince on live Drums..

ie: Soft & Wet, I'm Yours, I wanna be your lover, Bambi, Sexy Dancer, I feel for you,

Head, Controversey ect....

Later highlights include:

Tambourine-atwiad

+ the 1st 4 songs on the parade album.. ***allegedly played in one take ..

luv2tha99s said:

Prince. Can anybody name at least three GREAT Prince songs that he played drums on? I could go to PrinceVault, but I'm too lazy.

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Reply #8 posted 04/23/15 9:18pm

Adorecream

Sheila E, her drumming is amazing and she has all the percussive skills. Prince is great too, but I am more a fan of his guitar playing, piano and of course vocal talent. Morris is an okay rhythm drummer, but easily the joker in the pack here.

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Sheila is a one of a kind drummer and percussionist

Prince is a one of a kind musician and artist.

Morris is an okay vocalist, player and drummer.

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Reply #9 posted 04/24/15 3:31am

S3V3N

KoolEaze said:

luv2tha99s said:

Prince. Can anybody name at least three GREAT Prince songs that he played drums on? I could go to PrinceVault, but I'm too lazy.

Not really GREAT songs but I find it very impressive that he played the drum parts of the first three songs on the Parade album in just one take.

Cocaine's a helluva drug. lol

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Reply #10 posted 04/24/15 4:21am

iZsaZsa

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Sheila E. Prince is a great bandleader and Sheila E is the only one of the 3 that I know for sure can keep up with Prince live on stage. Can Morris play for Prince? Can Prince play for Prince? shrug On record I think she could record what they have, but I doubt if either of them could play Sheila E drums. I'm rambling. lol
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Reply #11 posted 04/24/15 5:37am

TheEnglishGent

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Sheila, Morris, Prince. Prince hasn't even got any drums ffs.

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Reply #12 posted 04/24/15 6:09am

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Morris Day on Drums

1.) Cool

2.) My Stick

3.) Girl

4.) the Walk

5.) Cloreen Bacon Skin

6.) Tricky

7.) If the Kid Can't Make U Come (Jesse Johnson drums) all 3 played the drums at different times, but Jesse got the correct beat

Let's Work

The song was completed at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA, between 14 and 23 August, 1981. Prince and Morris Day worked on the Dance Remix of the track on 8 December, 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound.

It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the Dance Remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running. The Dance Remix contains sampled clips from Private Joy, Annie Christian and Controversy, the first time a Prince song sampled another of his songs (something he has done often ever since).

-PrinceVault

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Reply #13 posted 04/24/15 2:46pm

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Adorecream said:

Sheila E, her drumming is amazing and she has all the percussive skills. Prince is great too, but I am more a fan of his guitar playing, piano and of course vocal talent. Morris is an okay rhythm drummer, but easily the joker in the pack here.


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Sheila is a one of a kind drummer and percussionist


Prince is a one of a kind musician and artist.


Morris is an okay vocalist, player and drummer.


-//// Prince said he preferred Morris over all his drummers and all the guys in the Time say he is phenomenal.
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Reply #14 posted 04/24/15 3:07pm

jdcxc

Listen to P on the first Madhouse album...tight funky brilliant drum work.
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Reply #15 posted 04/24/15 4:12pm

CharismaDove

My favorite drummer is Morris, followed by Sheila, then Prince. But all 3 are so good at it, that being last place isn't an insult biggrin I love Prince's drum solos

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Reply #16 posted 04/25/15 4:49am

Averett

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CharismaDove said:

My favorite drummer is Morris, followed by Sheila, then Prince. But all 3 are so good at it, that being last place isn't an insult biggrin I love Prince's drum solos

I'm happy to see Morris getting some love. I'm not 100% sure who the better drummer is (hence the question posed by the thread) but I suspect that some younger fans may not be aware of how good Morris actually is.

[Edited 4/25/15 4:49am]

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Reply #17 posted 04/25/15 5:03am

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Sheila, hands-down. P's feel on the drums is based on a rather simplistic in-the-pocket sort of style, and he pays extra attention to the groove with fills that arent exactly flashy (not counting his genius use of the LINN. I'm talking purely acoustic drumming). Morris is the same except hes a harder hitter and his chops are a bit more refined. Sheila does all of the above, except her chops are flashy as hell and very complicated and complex at times. I've seen Sheila do things that have made my eyes pop out of their sockets, and her approach/feel is SOOOOO fluent like her skills came naturally with little to no hard work and practice. In other words: her DNA is rhythm-based and playing the drums with such ease to her is compareable to us making our morning pot of coffee. Shes got great hands, great hand to eye coordination, and shes really stepped her double bass game up too. Chick is a total fox. Not bad for a girl, right? cool

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Reply #18 posted 04/25/15 5:36am

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kygermo said:

Sheila, hands-down. P's feel on the drums is based on a rather simplistic in-the-pocket sort of style, and he pays extra attention to the groove with fills that arent exactly flashy (not counting his genius use of the LINN. I'm talking purely acoustic drumming). Morris is the same except hes a harder hitter and his chops are a bit more refined. Sheila does all of the above, except her chops are flashy as hell and very complicated and complex at times. I've seen Sheila do things that have made my eyes pop out of their sockets, and her approach/feel is SOOOOO fluent like her skills came naturally with little to no hard work and practice. In other words: her DNA is rhythm-based and playing the drums with such ease to her is compareable to us making our morning pot of coffee. Shes got great hands, great hand to eye coordination, and shes really stepped her double bass game up too. Chick is a total fox. Not bad for a girl, right? cool

Have you heard the Madhouse albums and The Flesh?

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Reply #19 posted 04/25/15 6:11am

kygermo

paulludvig said:

kygermo said:

Sheila, hands-down. P's feel on the drums is based on a rather simplistic in-the-pocket sort of style, and he pays extra attention to the groove with fills that arent exactly flashy (not counting his genius use of the LINN. I'm talking purely acoustic drumming). Morris is the same except hes a harder hitter and his chops are a bit more refined. Sheila does all of the above, except her chops are flashy as hell and very complicated and complex at times. I've seen Sheila do things that have made my eyes pop out of their sockets, and her approach/feel is SOOOOO fluent like her skills came naturally with little to no hard work and practice. In other words: her DNA is rhythm-based and playing the drums with such ease to her is compareable to us making our morning pot of coffee. Shes got great hands, great hand to eye coordination, and shes really stepped her double bass game up too. Chick is a total fox. Not bad for a girl, right? cool

Have you heard the Madhouse albums and The Flesh?

You know what? I stand corrected. I COMPLETELY FORGOT about Madhouse. Slipped my mind entirely.

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Reply #20 posted 04/25/15 7:10am

ZahndiFadzhina

Averett said:

Who is without doubt the better drummer out of these three?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

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Reply #21 posted 04/25/15 7:51am

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ZahndiFadzhina said:

Averett said:

Who is without doubt the better drummer out of these three?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

I wonder if Prince and Sheila or Prince and Morris ever did an informal drum-off just for fun? hmmm

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Reply #22 posted 04/25/15 11:19am

Ego101

Only One of the 3 choices is a true Professional Drummer.

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Reply #23 posted 04/25/15 11:36am

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Averett said:

CharismaDove said:

My favorite drummer is Morris, followed by Sheila, then Prince. But all 3 are so good at it, that being last place isn't an insult biggrin I love Prince's drum solos

I'm happy to see Morris getting some love. I'm not 100% sure who the better drummer is (hence the question posed by the thread) but I suspect that some younger fans may not be aware of how good Morris actually is.

[Edited 4/25/15 4:49am]

I think because Sheila E plays drums and percussion like 95% of the time, she would be the more experienced seasoned drummer. She also plays bass guitar but Prince plays it more and most likely would be better.

I still would love to see/hear Morris singing lead while playing drums

My first time officially hearing him play was at the First Avenue show 1982 where Prince had him on drums for Party Up
Now that I know more specific songs he played on the Time album and Let's Work I'm going to playlist em and have a listen

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Reply #24 posted 04/25/15 7:18pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Morris Day on Drums

1.) Cool

2.) My Stick

3.) Girl

4.) the Walk

5.) Cloreen Bacon Skin

6.) Tricky

7.) If the Kid Can't Make U Come (Jesse Johnson drums) all 3 played the drums at different times, but Jesse got the correct beat

Let's Work

The song was completed at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA, between 14 and 23 August, 1981. Prince and Morris Day worked on the Dance Remix of the track on 8 December, 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound.

It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the Dance Remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running. The Dance Remix contains sampled clips from Private Joy, Annie Christian and Controversy, the first time a Prince song sampled another of his songs (something he has done often ever since).

-PrinceVault

Cloreen Bacon Skin's beat is the same as Irresistable Bitch, actually the beat and bass line is the exact same

Makes me wonder if Morris is on IB directly or if Prince just sampled Morris

Morris cuts loose on Cloreen

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Reply #25 posted 04/25/15 9:40pm

CharismaDove

Instrumentally, I'd say Jesse is more talented than Morris

Vocally, I'd say Morris is more talented than Jesse

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Reply #26 posted 04/28/15 8:25am

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Morris Day. Morris played drums on a lot of stuff and didn't get credit. I have it from a VERY good source that he played on a lot of Dirty Mind. He also played the drums on Darling Nikki.

Morris is amazing and Prince has said this. Michael B. has told me himself that Morris is a amazing drummer.

Prince is more of a quiet, finesse guy. If you watch him playing drums he barely hits them. Prince was a great pocket player back in the day. When you listen to something like Cinnamon Girl it's the sound of someone hitting the drums with a purse.

This is all my opinion, of course. For what it's worth, I do play drums and I know how to listen.

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Reply #27 posted 04/28/15 8:29am

paulludvig

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Morris Day. Morris played drums on a lot of stuff and didn't get credit. I have it from a VERY good source that he played on a lot of Dirty Mind. He also played the drums on Darling Nikki.

Morris is amazing and Prince has said this. Michael B. has told me himself that Morris is a amazing drummer.

Prince is more of a quiet, finesse guy. If you watch him playing drums he barely hits them. Prince was a great pocket player back in the day. When you listen to something like Cinnamon Girl it's the sound of someone hitting the drums with a purse.

This is all my opinion, of course. For what it's worth, I do play drums and I know how to listen.

Really? That's new to me. Source?

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Reply #28 posted 04/28/15 8:59am

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paulludvig said:

steakfinger said:

Morris Day. Morris played drums on a lot of stuff and didn't get credit. I have it from a VERY good source that he played on a lot of Dirty Mind. He also played the drums on Darling Nikki.

Morris is amazing and Prince has said this. Michael B. has told me himself that Morris is a amazing drummer.

Prince is more of a quiet, finesse guy. If you watch him playing drums he barely hits them. Prince was a great pocket player back in the day. When you listen to something like Cinnamon Girl it's the sound of someone hitting the drums with a purse.

This is all my opinion, of course. For what it's worth, I do play drums and I know how to listen.

Really? That's new to me. Source?

will back U up on that one. Lisa Coleman said Darling Nikki was all Prince.

That's Prince's furious drumming, sounds very similar to his Flesh wild drumming

But I do agree, in that I believe he played more drums on some of Prince's earlier albums as well

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Reply #29 posted 04/28/15 12:25pm

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I'm just curious in regards to those who are more knowledgeable on the topic than I, for each artist, which song best serves as the best example for their respective drumming ability?

[Edited 4/28/15 12:26pm]

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