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Prince & the Time 1980-1984 and the further adventures of...
Throughout Prince's career, he has been involved with a succession of protégés and side-projects. This story envelop a fascinating insight into Prince's production and songwriting techniques. Many of the artists have become stars in their own right. Perhaps most famous and successful of all of this musical projects have been ... THE TIME.
Oberheim synthesizer Sunset Sound The Idolmaker Morris Day, Jesse Johnson, Jerome Benton, Monte Moore,Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis Jellybean Johnson Lincoln Junior High classmate Grand Central, Flyte Time, Sharon Hughes (background vocals) Sue Ann Carwell, Alexander O'Neal The Starr ★ Company Jamie Starr It's all about self-respect...to take pride in who you are, the way you dress and groom, and the way you walk & talk. -Morris Day Party Up Oh Baby Cool Girl My Stick the Walk Wild & Loose I Don't Wanna Leave U 777-9311 After Hi School Grace Jerk Out [What Time Is It? studio sessions] Colleen [What Time Is It? studio sessions] 2 Friends of mine got lost in the snow Jungle Love Chili Sauce ie Proposition #17 Tonight, hey, I'm a Movie Star Ice Cream Castles My Drawers If the Kid Can't Make U Come Cloreen Bacon Skin Tricky Chocolate [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions] My Love Belongs 2 U [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions] My Summertime Thang [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions] Velvet Kitty Kat [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions] Data Bank #1 | |
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I was left a photo of the front of my condo—sort of—by Morris Day & The Time, who used my steps as the set for their debut album cover 30 years ago.
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It still looks bad ass. What? | |
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This year[7.29.1981] marks the 30th anniversary of Morris Day's first album with the Time, a self-titled effort of synthesizer-driven party-funk written by Prince and members of his Revolution. It sent two singles to the upper reaches of the Billboard R&B charts - "Get It Up," which featured an explosive Prince solo, and "Cool."
Q: This year marks the 30th anniversary of the Time's first album. Was that a good experience working with Prince on that one?
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The Time, home studio, April 1981 – album mixed in late April
Home studio, autumn-winter 1981
July 29. 1981 rel The Time[self titled album]
1.Get It Up . Prince initiated this album before the band had even been assembled. The record was completed in only two weeks in April 1981 at his home studio in the basement of his house at Lake Riley in Chanhassen, Minneapolis. Only Oh, Baby was recorded in April 1979 at Alpha Studios in Los Angeles during the sessions for his own 1979 album "Prince". The final mixing of the tapes took place at Hollywood Sunset Sound in Los Angeles, from 28th to 30th April 1981. [Prince] himself plays more or less every note on the album. Matt Fink delivers synthesizer solos on Get it up and The stick, while Lisa Coleman provides some backing vocals on Cool and The Stick. Prince's own voice is often audible in the final mix. . On 29th July 1981 the first album [The Time] was released by Warner Bros. Records. The credits listed [Morris Day] (lead vocals), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar), [Terry Lewis] (bass), [Jellybean Johnson] (drums) as well as [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy Jam] (both keyboards) as the members of the band. The production credit is shared by [Morris Day] with a guy named Jamie Starr, who had been first introduced as an engineer on [Prince]'s 1980 album "Dirty Mind". Neither record nor sleeve contains any songwriting credits. The music itself bears all the hallmarks of [Prince]'s synth-based Minneapolis-Sound and it didn't take long before stories start to circulating at the press, that [Prince] himself was behind this project - writing all songs, playing mosts instruments and producing the complete album, only utilizing [Morris Day] to add some vocals on the final mix.
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1.) Morris 2.)William Doughty 3.) Andre 'Cymone' Anderson 4.) Linda Anderson
Pepé moved to Minneapolis and began working with Prince in 1974-75. It wasn't long before he realized that Prince was more than good, he was a phenomenal musician, and a singer as well. He also showed a deep desire and serious determination to make it. It was at this point that Pepé committed himself to passing the THE KNOWLEDGE to Prince; and Prince listened and listened.
Prince(keyboards) Andre Cymone(bass) Morris(drums | |
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Cool" is a song by The Time, released as the second single from their eponymous debut album. Like most of the album, the song was recorded in Prince's home studio in April 1981, and was produced, arranged, and performed by Prince with Morris Day later adding his lead vocals. The song was co-written with Revolution guitarist Dez Dickerson and contains background vocals by keyboardist Lisa Coleman, however both were uncredited. The classic video for the song is directed by Chuck Statler, who is best known for directing the early Devo videos -Wiki
Cool
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November 14th, 1981 • Soul TrainTV-Show Details
Line-Up
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The stick was originally written by Lisa Coleman, but it was registered to Jamie Starr. initial tracking took place in April, 1981 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen, MN, Matt Fink delivers synthesizer Lisa Coleman (listed as "various girlfriends")background vocals)) Terry Lewis (background vocals) all other known instruments by Jamie Starr Lead vocals/Drums by Morris Day
My stick, I just love my stick
It's about time 2 go (No)
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If anyone knows of or has any interviews with the Time or any of the members from the 1980-1984 period or pieces where a member talks about that time please do share...
'church' organ playing Ya'll have 2 excuse me I was going to mention this earlier But I forgot But what we are going to do right here right now No not yet not yet just relax, this is my show We are going to take up a collection, ya know like they do in church
So as U C the fellas assembling behind me we're going 2 take advantage of your kind generous hearts And take a collection I'll take anything Money Phone Numbers Credit Cards Your Momma U don't want her? But the bitch in in the hat Fella go on out there and take advantage of these kind hearts That's right bring the house lights up, I like it like that that way I can see who is giving and who ain't Now as we know Brother Prince played here a week or 2 ago and from what they tell me he charged $25 a head
I don't know about U but I stayed home that night that is just a little steap\ No serious that's steap I want U 2 bear 1 thing in mind as those hat's come in front of U And that is GIVE GIVE until your heart until it hearts Mike Jones I see U out there I see U laughing I want 2 C U with your hands in your pocket What Time Is It? It's time to put something in that hat U know what time it is Come on Don't throw it at me cause I'll be out there on your ass Don't throw the shit at me put it in the hat Alright fellas that's quite enough Thank U so much Jerome Jerome where u at I need U Jerome Anyone C Jerome I know u.... Prince R U out there, did U give? U took, Did U give? Morris is waiting I don't have all night This is my show, this is my stage Jerome did I get some phone numbers lol somebody stole em...
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The Time... hmmm. Don't know that I've heard of them. I'll have to check them out--I mean, if there's a Prince connection, they might be okay.
Actually, I liked that pic of Grand Central--I'd never actually seen it before, so nice inclusion. Though the couple on stage didn't seem to fully appreciate what the three would eventually be. Probably just hearing what they were actually playing instead of the future. Short-sighted people. . Also, is there an easy way to find all of these "period" or "project" retrospective threads that you do, OF4S? It'd be nice if there were a list somewhere. . Anyway, I like them, but since I often don't have any thing really to add, I've never said anything much about them. They're a nice addition to Prince.org. | |
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Dapper brand of 'cool' still suits Time
In the '80s, when backdated attire turned a handful of street-wise musicians into sartorial hipsters, fans nationwide struggled to keep up with The Time.
Inspired by zoot suits, bygone Hollywood glamour and underworld cool, the band scoured hand-me-down shops for designer castoffs to enhance their image as swaggering funk kingpins. Porkpie hats, pleated trousers, wide-shouldered long coats, Morris Day's gold jacket with the tiger-print lapels. OK, not every outfit screamed panache. Some just screamed.
Little has changed, except now they can afford new threads. "Our first clothing budget was $100," Jesse Johnson remembers. "For all of us." Sporting flashy suits, shades and fedoras, The Time continues to pride itself on fashion sense. And in typical Time fashion, the band is still behind the times, opting for a Godfather vibe over today's sloppy chic. It all started with sprees at Minneapolis vintage shops Ragstock and Tatters Clothing. "We were interested in being cool," Jimmy Jam says. "It was about attitude and feeling good about ourselves, even though we didn't have the money." Morris had to overcome his retail snobbery. "I ain't going to lie: I was a little apprehensive about going into a used-clothing store," he says. "But that original Presley (suit) came out of Tatters, and I wore it till it fell off." No designers or stylists played a role in The Time's flamboyant early press photos or videos. At concerts during the first tour, "every kid was dressed like us, because they could do it cheap," Jesse says. "The prices at Ragstock went way up." The Time's dapper-duds scheme soon backfired. Says Jerome Benton, "By the end of the tour, used suits at Aardvark's (in L.A.) were $300."
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rel 6.26.1981
Get it up (9:08) performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) & Matt Fink (synthesizer solos) • final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7] • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) • 1981 on the promo 12"-Single [Get it up] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles] Get it up (edit / mono) (3:05) Get it up (edit) (3:05) • 1981 on the 7"-Single [Get it up] • 1981 on the promo 12"-Single [Get it up]
Get it up, get ready for a real good time. I'm gonna try to blow your mind.
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The Time Opening 4 Prince 01.30.1982 @ the Capitol Theatre
1. The Stick 2. Dance 2 the Beat 3. Oh Baby 4. Get It Up 5. Cool
Prince & band 1. Uptown 2. Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad? 3. I Wanna Be Your Lover 4. Head 5. Dirty Mind 6. Do Me Baby 7. Controversy 8. Let's Work 9. Jack U Off
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After hi school (4:22)
Seems like nothing's ever gonna change in my world.
(chorus)
But there's a lot of stuff that I could learn to do in my world.
(repeat chorus)
Listen to me, listen to me!
I'm talkin' to ya, you stupid slob!
I'm talkin to you.
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Jet: March 1, 1982 You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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http://www.eurweb.com/2015/03/steven-ivory-before-uptown-funk-there-was-the-time-watch/
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*“Uptown Funk,” that Mark Ronson/Bruno Mars collaboration you hear everywhere, is glossy, funk-from-concentrate that uses so many meat by-products from other funk songs—a rhythm guitar lick similar to Roger Troutman and Zapp’s “More Bounce to the Ounce” here; a strategically inserted “Sayyy Whaaaaat?” synonymous with a million funk and hip hop recordings, there—that I’d be surprised if Ronson, when he finished producing the track (with Mars, Jeff Bhasker and Philip Lawrence), didn’t step back from the recording console and declare, a’la Dr. Frankenstein, “It’s Alive!” However, Ronson reserves the most obvious pinching for the song’s video (he’s the white cat in most of the frames). Indeed, most kiddies today don’t know Mars and his band’s bumptious video antics were no doubt inspired by a band that debuted more than thirty years ago, The Time. Don’t believe me, just watch…the video: Ronson’s clip features Mars being primped and fussed over by right hand man Philip Lawrence, similar to how The Time’s onstage “valet” Jerome Benton spruces up Time lead singer Morris Day. * At some point, Mars purposefully checks his wrist watch to see what time it is—a trademark move of Day (as in, “What Time Is It?” The Time—get it?). Ronson’s clip artfully uses an old Lincoln Continental as a prop; on the cover of Ice Cream Castles, The Time’s third album, members pose sitting on a bright yellow Cadillac. * Okay, perhaps I’m reaching with that last one, but I’m convinced Ronson’s title, “Uptown Funk,” was inspired by “Uptown,” the 1980 song (and state of mind) by Prince, The Time’s creator and producer. All the swaggering Mars and band sing about in “Uptown Funk”, The Time personified in their second single back in the day, the title of which said it all: “Cool.” I remember how excited people were about the debut of The Time. It was 1980 and the R&B band genre, after dominating the mid-late ‘70s–think Earth, Wind and Fire, Ohio Players, Commodores, Isleys 3+3, Parliament/Funkadelic and Rufus featuring Chaka Khan and bands like the Bar-Kays, New Birth, B.T. Express, Brass Construction, Brick and thumping bass legend Larry Graham’s steamrolling Graham Central Station–was now being represented by a revised Kool and the Gang, the Brothers Johnson and the S.O.S. Band. Earth, Wind & Fire and the Isleys were winding down. Larry Graham was singing ballads. * The Time, on the other hand, had the vibe of an underground thing that had a light cast on it by this young cat catching fire out of Minneapolis named Prince. Warner Brothers, for whom both Prince and The Time recorded, issued a press release with the band’s eponymously titled 198l debut LP, claiming for PR sake that Prince stumbled onto the band when he walked into a Minneapolis nightclub while they were onstage. * The truth is that he and Morris Day, a drummer, were friends, and Prince himself assembled The Time by recruiting musicians he knew from local Minneapolis area bands. For the first two Time albums, Prince wrote most of the songs, played most of the instruments—synthesizers, guitars, bass and drum machines—and with Day developed the lead singer’s braggadocious lady’s man persona. * The studio was one thing, but onstage, The Time (Day, guitarist Jesse Johnson, Jimmy “Jam” Harris and Monte Moir, keyboards; bassist Terry Lewis, Jellybean Johnson, drums; Jerome Benton, percussion, vocals) was real. At Hollywood’s Roxy Theater, scene of the band’s first L.A. performance in 1981, the anticipation was palpable. They nearly burned down the 500-seat club with a funky, turtleneck-tight set that featured all the irreverence and rebellion that, along with the music, gave The Time its public identity. When Jesse Johnson stepped from the stage and onto the table of a patron sitting at the front of the stage to blaze a guitar solo, we were taken aback. The gall! The attitude! We love this band! Years later I’d tell Terry Lewis what a great performance the Roxy show was. “Aw, man, that was one of the weakest shows on that tour,” he said. “Most of us had the flu or something that night, and we were feeling miserable.” After the show, Warner Brothers hosted a private reception for the band, press and assorted VIPs at a restaurant across the street from the club. There, in a corner of the room, was Prince, in that animal print coat and scarf ensemble he often wore before the real money came, standing among Warner execs and people from Cavallo & Ruffalo, the firm that managed Prince and The Time, discussing the show. * Prince being the band’s professional mentor didn’t deter him or Morris Day and company, when touring together, from attempting to obliterate one another onstage. When The Time opened the show, their blistering grooves often made it difficult for Prince, whose set was more musically eclectic, to pull the audience back in. * During Prince’s 1982/’83 tour, The Time did double duty, playing behind the curtain to supply music for the boss’ girl group, Vanity 6, before performing their own set. Prince got to play behind the curtain, too, for a different reason: when bad weather in Atlanta kept Lewis and Jimmy Jam, moonlighting as independent songwriters/producers, from making a flight to a show in Texas, Prince had Time member Benton–half-brother to Lewis–strap on a bass guitar and pretend to be playing during The Time set, while Prince played the actual bass parts from backstage. Jam and Lewis were fired from the band shortly thereafter, in 1983. * Since then, there have been several Time configurations, including short-term reunions of the original members (sometimes performing as the Original 7even, since Prince owns rights to The Time moniker), most of whom launched successful careers as songwriters, producers and bandleaders in their own right. * Despite their onstage prowess—and signature songs, “The Bird” and “Jungle Love”–the band biggest single was the 1990 song, “Jerk Out,” which reached #9 on the Billboard pop charts. No matter. The Time’s musical and visual style influenced countless R&B bands during the ’80s, including The Deele, from which the R&B production team of Antonio “L.A.” Reid and Kenny “Babyface” Edmonds emerged. * I like Ronson’s “Uptown Funk.” I believe all the biting in that video is in conscious, humble homage to The Time. In any case, Ronson’s conceptualized dance music serves to expose a new generation to traditional funk. And that’s always cool, no matter what time it is. Steven Ivory, veteran journalist, essayist and author, writes about popular culture for magazines, newspapers, radio, TV and the Internet. Respond to him via STEVRIVORY@AOL.COM
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So damn cool A robin sings a masterpiece that lives and dies unheard... | |
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I love this stuff. Especially since I was ten at the time and I had to wait to get a ride to the record stores just to look at an album or cassette tape to see what bands looked like. I(we) had no clue. Keep it up! | |
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Although they hadn't yet really played together as a group in the studio, in August 1981 THE TIME performed their first live appearance at a showcase for a small group of executives from Warner Bros. Records at the S.I.R. Studio in Los Angeles, with Prince overseeing the proceedings by the soundboard. During rehearsals for the upcoming "Controversy"-Tour with Prince, THE TIME incorporated Jerome Benton into their acts to be Morris Day's on-stage valet. The band warmed-up in autumn 1981 by playing a small number of low-key gigs around the Minneapolis aera.
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1982 Cntroversy "Tour
p 48 chapter 4 Pawns Possessed: the Rise & Fall of Prince
The hostilities burst to the surface during the last show of the tour at Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati. During their opening set, the Time found themselves being pelted by eggs from offstage. Gradually, they realized that Prince and some of his band members were the culprits. The barrage increased, and, toward the end of the set, Prince and his accomplices abducted Jerome Benton, a dancer for the group, from the stage and poured honey all over him. They they pelted hims with garbage. "They tarred and feathered him, basically," recalled Fink, who did not participate and insisted to the Time members that he wanted no part of the battle.
Then, as the Time's set ended, Chick Huntsberry grabbed Jesse Johnson and hauled him to Prince's dressing room. There, Huntsberry handcuffed Johnson to a horizontal coat rack bolted into a brick wall. Prince came in and began taunting Johnson and tossing Doritos chips and other pieces of food at him. "This is what you get for talking about my mama!" Prince shouted.
The various members of Prince's band and crew in the room looked on with horror as the episode continued. "It was a cruel thing to do," observed Bennett. Fink recalled, "I just sat there and said to myself, this is getting out of hand."
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Morris Day & Jimmy Jam
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Gosh I love entire 1982-83 pimp-in-pink/purple era where Prince was his funkiest. The imagery, music, side projects, etc.. Maybe do, just not like did before | |
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