lwr001 said:

Bart - the real loser is you as you care way too much about another man's business...

And... we have our first Bart basher of the thread! Congratulations on being predictible and unoriginal. Your spot on the bandwagon keeps you in good company though. Enjoy! You've just taken a cheap pot shot because you think it is pretty safe and a "cool thing to do". ...oh, look over there, there is another crowd gathering on another internet thread, maybe you can join the crowd and pretend you were there from the beginning, you internet pioneer, you! Cheers!

lwr001 said:

Bart - the real loser is you as you care way too much about another man's business...

Err.... is that not an accusation you can throw at every single one of us here on this site, yourself included?

Pentacle said:

stillwaiting said:

Ok, so we should start a petition to ask them to cover legal costs that will likely cost more than the small profit margin a Purple Rain remaster will bring in? Bad idea. Won't make a difference. Had they done this in 1996-2001 it might have given his career a bit of a jolt...nobody cares now. Except a few die hards here.

Prince will have to pay for the costs when (not if) he loses. So yes, let's start it now.

I'm thinking, we really should do it. It will be another first for the revolutionary artist Prince!

Can you imagine the headlines:

"Fans ask record company to sue their favorite artist"

undergroundFUNK said:

This is really the only thing that bugs or irritates me about Prince. All the promises of albums we never get. PR remaster Roadhouse Garden Crystal Ball 2 the albums listed at the back of the One Nite Alone program and so on.... Why even say anything at all about a project until you are a 100% certain it's being released. Just pissing off your hardcore fanbase that would be the ones to buy these albums.The general public could give two shits and don't pay that close attention. So why bother pissing off the ones that really appreciate your music and support you in every release. Hook your loyal fanbase up. Give us Roadhouse Garden Crystal Ball 2 Purple Rain Remaster Deluxe Special Edition. I don't know I guess I'm just tired of empty promises throughout all the years of being a fan. It gets old.

Warner brothers must have thought they had pr remaster. I just think he is not bothered how he treats the labels. Him releaseing planet earth free when he had a deal with universal, slave etc. He seems like a pain for the record companys to deal with. He definately used pr remaster as carrot to get his new albums released. it is a shame for us fans that we do not get any of older stuff and the money market seems to be there only for live performance rather than albums so money is probably the issue.

Rebeljuice said:

lwr001 said:

Bart - the real loser is you as you care way too much about another man's business...

Err.... is that not an accusation you can throw at every single one of us here on this site, yourself included?

While I do think we over-analyze Every. Single. Detail. of Prince's music, you have to admit that Bart's posts are damn-near 99% accurate.

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Even though he shatters some illusions and crushes some hopes about modern-day Prince, Bart can dissect an Org debate and take the wind out of any false claims or obsessed-fan rantings.

Se7en said:

Do you think Price used WB?

He says he is on board with the remaster BUT first you have to release AOA and PE.

They do and he says thanks and walks away.

undergroundFUNK said:

This is really the only thing that bugs or irritates me about Prince. All the promises of albums we never get. PR remaster Roadhouse Garden Crystal Ball 2 the albums listed at the back of the One Nite Alone program and so on....

what where these?

Se7en said:

Rebeljuice said:

Err.... is that not an accusation you can throw at every single one of us here on this site, yourself included?

While I do think we over-analyze Every. Single. Detail. of Prince's music, you have to admit that Bart's posts are damn-near 99% accurate.

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Even though he shatters some illusions and crushes some hopes about modern-day Prince, Bart can dissect an Org debate and take the wind out of any false claims or obsessed-fan rantings.

yup.

undergroundFUNK said:

KingSausage said:

Se7en said:

While I do think we over-analyze Every. Single. Detail. of Prince's music, you have to admit that Bart's posts are damn-near 99% accurate.

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Even though he shatters some illusions and crushes some hopes about modern-day Prince, Bart can dissect an Org debate and take the wind out of any false claims or obsessed-fan rantings.

Fuck yeah. He's a reality check. A crucial role on the Org.

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LIBRA said:

Se7en said:

Rebeljuice said:

Err.... is that not an accusation you can throw at every single one of us here on this site, yourself included?

While I do think we over-analyze Every. Single. Detail. of Prince's music, you have to admit that Bart's posts are damn-near 99% accurate.

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Even though he shatters some illusions and crushes some hopes about modern-day Prince, Bart can dissect an Org debate and take the wind out of any false claims or obsessed-fan rantings.

It's an interesting discussion up to a point but when either side gets too obsessive it becomes kinda creepy. We're talking about entertainment, not world peace or anything. The guy plays great guitar, but still.

I don't feel deprived of anything because my attitude is that I can't miss what I've never had, period. I couldn't care less if Prince burned it all tomorrow but we would have to open a suicide hotline on this site for some folks.

When you have people on this very thread going to the extreme of wishing P would die so they can have his work, you know that some truly sick, twisted, evil stuff is going on.

Even bart ain't trippin that hard.

sad face

Aerogram said:

Pentacle said:

1. He's signed a contract.

2. He's signed a contract which I'm sure does not include 'you can give us censored versions'.

3. He's signed a contract. Remasters do not automatically mean bonus tracks, but this was also mentioned in the press release.

Signed, sealed, and not yet delivered.

He has signed a contract with WB, not with his fans. Even if it's unlikely it authorized him to censor, I would not put it past him to decide that if those are his masters, then he can withold until he gets his wish. Withholding may be perfectly ok under the contract, we don't know.

He may not be able to censor a song on the original album, but I expect him to "finish" his well-known outtakes with this treatment, and it would be allowed.

love2thenines2003 said:

We need some info from some insiders...There are few people here on the org with real information. ..we need info in one direction or another....because all these talkings based on speculations and dreams become little by little so boring!

We as fans...NO...consumers need some INFO from Prince and/or Warner Brothers, period.

Cinny said:

Aerogram said:

Pentacle said: He has signed a contract with WB, not with his fans. Even if it's unlikely it authorized him to censor, I would not put it past him to decide that if those are his masters, then he can withold until he gets his wish. Withholding may be perfectly ok under the contract, we don't know.

He may not be able to censor a song on the original album, but I expect him to "finish" his well-known outtakes with this treatment, and it would be allowed.

Whatever decisions decides to make with his MEGA re-masters, Eye will support him wholeheartedly 4ever....

thepurplestream said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Whatever decisions decides to make with his MEGA re-masters, Eye will support him wholeheartedly 4ever....

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I'm sure no one is surprised to hear this.

1. No one knows ANYONE fro0m warners to get answers from?

2. i dont care as long as he returns to releasing new albums in a timely manner

the ship has sailed? Oh well,we might as well start focusing on a 30th anniversary SOTT remaster let's see if that one happens

undergroundFUNK said:

If I remember correctly the ones that were listed and didn't get released and I believe there were 5 listed. The Last December Greatest Hits of Symbol & Madrid 2 Chicago. I'm not 100% sure if that's correct. Do not have my program handy right now.

There were four albums listed:

Last December

Xenophobia

Madrid 2 Chicago

The Very Best Of

I was so looking forward to getting four different albums, but instead we only got a pretty good album and three (edited) live performance CDs.

JudasSmile said:

undergroundFUNK said:

If I remember correctly the ones that were listed and didn't get released and I believe there were 5 listed. The Last December Greatest Hits of Symbol & Madrid 2 Chicago. I'm not 100% sure if that's correct. Do not have my program handy right now.

There were four albums listed:

Last December

Xenophobia

Madrid 2 Chicago

The Very Best Of

I was so looking forward to getting four different albums, but instead we only got a pretty good album and three (edited) live performance CDs.

These albums were also used to encourage new memberships for the coming year of the NPG Music Club. Instead, we got that bland live album & piano demos & when I wrote a letter to complain about it, I got a response (from Prince's legal team at the time, no less - which were apparently serving as the fan club's customer service) essentially stating that what Prince chooses to release is entirely within his purview. That is all well & good, however, when he advertises specific content is forthcoming in an attempt to drum up membership, it's a bit more murky. He long ago set the standard on classless business dealings & anyone who expects anything better of him is playing a fool's game.