Princevault, Uptown, Per Nilsen, etc. can be every bit as speculative as anything found on a thread such as this. And unabashedly false-authoritative as I have been alleged to have been at points in this thread.

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They, and their contributors and informants, are indeed most fortunate, it would seem, to have been furnished access to extraordinarily rare unreleased documents and materials.

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However, a footing in elite *bootleg* trading circles, and access to 'interviews' of sorts with lesser Purple players (some of whom have an axe to grind, some of whom wear rose-tinted glasses, some of whom are actively involved in distortion campaigns), years and even decades after the fact, are rather tenuous credentials, and most often a poor substitute for reasoned analysis.

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I am inclined to suggest that a truly detailed and thorough history of Prince's catalogue bears only a weak correlation to the assertions and data presented by the above-mentioned.

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Rebeljuice said:

databank said:

I've asked the mods what u suggest before and they said no. I've also thought of creating such a new forum, but I thought no one will ever go there because the Org is the place

I dont know why it is an issue... Obviously the mods are adverse to serious discussion having its own grown-up section. They much prefer the mud slinging I guess.

Im not so sure that many Prince fans think the org is the place to be. I would say that the org has scared away many a fan due to its schitzophrenic attitude towards Prince. A new site aimed at fans who want to discuss his music and are interested in the history and evolution of the music might actually be a breath of fresh air. Its not as if a site like that needs thousands of members to work. It just needs a few enthusiastic Prince scholars and a few willing to learn. It would then grow naturally. Hardest part is kicking it off with lots of discussions to get engaged in from the start. Perhaps a call for some volunteers to help get it off the ground. Im not sure there will be too many takers who post on the org, too many enjoy the triviality of it all. See how Barts thread about the experts-exchange thing dropped like a lead balloon. But there may be quite a few lurkers who would happily engage in something a bit more grown up...

I think it would be an awsome undertaking. It would be nice to have a site which discusses the music first and foremost. Somewhere to learn something factual. Discussing techniques, album reviews, chronology of recordings, outtakes and where they fit into the picture, proteges and their music, tours and the musicians employed at the time, album disections etc etc. Factual information that can be preserved, and perhaps one day compiled. PVault is great, but it lacks any discussion pertaining to the facts it presents. And it is the discussion that is engaging to others as opposed to presenting straight up fact. Then when someone tells me they just dont get what I see in Prince, I could point them to the new site and tell them to look around and see what they come away with. You cant do that with the org, people would come away thinking Prince and his fans are insane and would run a mile!

Unfortunately I dont really have the time to get something like that off the ground, but I would happily get engaged with the site from the onset. Is anyone else though? thats the question. I dont doubt they are out there, but how do you connect with them to start with?

The problem I've found is, compared to a decade ago, it's increasingly hard to convince people to post on a forum to begin with. A lot of music discussion happens on Facebook groups, which at times gets even more trivial/banal than anywhere else.