BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

How can anyone call themselves "Kendrick Lamar"??? This name is atrocious

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Yes, how dare he use his own name.

My legal name sucks. I'd have changed it but as we French ain't allowed to do that in our fucked up fascist namocracy, at least I took a stage name.

feeluupp said:

one of the greatest albums of all time.

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Not great enough for a remaster, yet...

So if the greatness is true it shows the lack of vision by someone or a certain few someones.

Kendrick most likely turned Prince down.

Prince is on the level of Breakfast can wait,

Kendrick is forging a revolution.

SignOthetimes1987 said:

Kendrick most likely turned Prince down.

Prince is on the level of Breakfast can wait,

Kendrick is forging a revolution.

That reminds me of the track "Undisputed" from Rave Un2 Thee Joy Fantastic. The lyrics and music was so horrible that it makes "The Flow" sound like "Nothin But A G Thang". It seems like Prince is much more collaborative with younger artists not in his his camp. Maybe Prince contributed a vocal or musical part on keys or guitar for a track produced by Terrace Martin and it may end up as a bonus track if Interscope releases a deluxe issue on iTunes.

2020 said:

Typical org comments Of course Prince can't sell as many album now as he did 30 years ago Nor will Kendrick in 30 years...actually it will be more like Kendrick who?

I totally agree with 2020's post. This org is just plain wierd. There are so many people here who are just so negative. Yes Prince's hey day in terms of sales was 30 years ago. We all get that. But he is relevant today. Very relevant. Not so much in terms of sales but just of pure importance in the musical pop world as a true ICON. Younger and up and coming artists like Kendrick Lamar relish the idea of working with such a force as Prince. He has so much knowledge to share. All I am saying is what other artists gets as much respect musically and critically today who has had such a long career than Prince. Yes there are a handful but Prince is that group. Will hardly of these hot acts now be relevant in 30 years? I highly doubt it.

Prince still puts out amazing live shows and releases music the way he wants and when he wants. Just the fact that there are people here commenting on him and his ways says what a force he still is. No musician in popular music can discount his genius sincerely. He has changed the way the music industry looks at itself and always still defines the trends not follow them.

Good for Kendrick to spend some time with a living legend. But please give this living legend his props. Anything else is pure silliness.

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

O( > has already sold over a HUNDRED million albums!What the hell are U talking about? Record sales are the least thing on his mind. His money comes form his masters, MEGA NPGMusicPublishing company & sold out shows. Eye bet U Kendrick doesn't even own his master recordings.

Your wasting my time now...

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What Prince sold in the past is in the past. This is now. In 2015, he can't sell new music on the level that Kendrick Lamar can.

doesn't have to. His legacy speaks for itself.

BTW U do remember, just a few months ago, still debuted not one but TWO albums @#1. Still after 36 years in the muziq business.

Let's see where Kendrick will be @ or sale in 36 years. Will he have peeps, still trying to bootleg his THOUSANDS of songs in his vault, while still alive? I doubt it..

3rdeyedude said:

funksterr said:

This part speaks volumes:

My translation: The track was bad and Prince's terms were egregious, so fuck doing a deal for that song. I was there just to pick the brain of an industry vet. I can't tell you what was said, because, tbh, none of it made any fuggin sense, but hey I can tell my grandkids I did a song with a legend, you know?

This is exactly right. There is even a new interview with John Blackwell online that makes Prince sound kind of strange. "Pressed for time"? Give me a fucking break.

In what way?

coolice227 said:

coolice227 said:

funksterr said:

What Prince sold in the past is in the past. This is now. In 2015, he can't sell new music on the level that Kendrick Lamar can.

We will see about that Prince can and Prince will sell music on kendrick lamars level again you orgers will be in a statecof shock!

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funksterr said:

What Prince sold in the past is in the past. This is now. In 2015, he can't sell new music on the level that Kendrick Lamar can.

doesn't have to. His legacy speaks for itself.

BTW U do remember, just a few months ago, still debuted not one but TWO albums @#1. Still after 36 years in the muziq business.

Let's see where Kendrick will be @ or sale in 36 years. Will he have peeps, still trying to bootleg his THOUSANDS of songs in his vault, while still alive? I doubt it..

In terms of how to sell music TODAY, Prince doesn't have any answers. What he did when the industry was totally different is basically apples and oranges. It's a new game, from 1984. Prince has released a series of flop albums. He can't play the game, successful artists play in 2015.

Everytime Prince gets in an artists' head, he blows their career up. Hopefully Kendrick tuned out, when Prince started talking.

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vinaysfunk said:

2020 said:

Typical org comments Of course Prince can't sell as many album now as he did 30 years ago Nor will Kendrick in 30 years...actually it will be more like Kendrick who?

I totally agree with 2020's post. This org is just plain wierd. There are so many people here who are just so negative. Yes Prince's hey day in terms of sales was 30 years ago. We all get that. But he is relevant today. Very relevant.

His '80s and early '90s ouptut is relevant to them.

Everything else is pure silliness.

Just because you don't buy an album doesn't mean you don't jam the hell out of it.

I never bought Mark Ronson's album, but I jammed uptown funk to death.

A million 15 year old's buying your album now doesn't mean your career will endure.

Any present talent can trace it's inspiration back to other artists who came before them,

so you can never forget the past.

This isn't kendrick.org or anybodyelse.org ... so why come here to trash uncle P. SMH

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resistance76 said:

Any present talent can trace it's [its] inspiration back to other artists who came before them,

so you can never forget the past.

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But that's what I'm saying: the far, far past.

vinaysfunk said:

2020 said:

Typical org comments Of course Prince can't sell as many album now as he did 30 years ago Nor will Kendrick in 30 years...actually it will be more like Kendrick who?

I totally agree with 2020's post. This org is just plain wierd. There are so many people here who are just so negative. Yes Prince's hey day in terms of sales was 30 years ago. We all get that. But he is relevant today. Very relevant. Not so much in terms of sales but just of pure importance in the musical pop world as a true ICON.

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No, Prince is not relevant. The Prince of 30 years ago is revered, but nobody gives a fuck about his current music, INCLUDING PRINCE HIMSELF.

BartVanHemelen said:

vinaysfunk said:

I totally agree with 2020's post. This org is just plain wierd. There are so many people here who are just so negative. Yes Prince's hey day in terms of sales was 30 years ago. We all get that. But he is relevant today. Very relevant. Not so much in terms of sales but just of pure importance in the musical pop world as a true ICON.

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No, Prince is not relevant. The Prince of 30 years ago is revered, but nobody gives a fuck about his current music, INCLUDING PRINCE HIMSELF.

"Nobody" gives a fuck except you've been following his every move for at least two decades and probably get his new music as soon as it leaks. Didn't you recently start some kind of site as well?

A good way of proving just how irrelevant you think Prince is would be to stop doing that. Like, just stop following him, DON'T help create new websites, that kind of thing.

Note that this advice is not very different from what I'd say to a guy who keeps telling me just how done he is with his ex, over and over and over, showing you recent pictures to let you know she's (IYO) "letting herself go", telling you about the latest "idiotic" thing she tweeted, etc. "BRO shut up about it or face the fucking fact you've got a bad fixation."

vinaysfunk said:

^Ah yes Aerogram to the rescue. You are my favorite orger by far. Not because of what you just posted but because your posts make the most sense to me. Yeah I guess co sign on what you said

Glad you enjoy my posts! I do what I can around here.

BobGeorge909 said:

EddieC said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

Prince can't get a proper tour off the ground. Prince can't get new music out where anybody notices. Prince can't properly monetize his back catalog. Prince can't coast off his legacy like his peers.

Nobody should take business advice from Prince. The guy is terrible at it.

Paul McCartney isn't free but he could book a world tour tomorrow that would sell out on his name alone, he can collaborate on a song with some one and have everybody talk about it the next day and he can still release whatever weird sideproject whenever he wants.

If I might deviate from all the petty sniping for a minute, Kendrick's previous album was reissued in a deluxe version that included several bonus tracks not on the original. So maybe the same will happen to To Pimp A Butterfly and we'll be able to hear Prince's contribution. Or maybe not, who knows, but it's worth mentioning, it's not like this thread is really going anywhere is it?

laurarichardson said:

EddieC said:

KCOOL, no one can waste your time except yourself... and now I'm going to waste some of my own. "Has already" and "today"--most people understand that those words refer to different time periods. Strangely enough, you're both right. Prince sold records in big numbers; Kendrick Lamar sells records in big numbers. Good for both of them.

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By the way, I've always owned all of my master recordings, and every single penny from their sale always has and always will go directly into my pocket. Boo-yah, Prince!

Good for you but your masters are not worth what Prince's are.

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laurarichardson said:

EddieC said:

KCOOL, no one can waste your time except yourself... and now I'm going to waste some of my own. "Has already" and "today"--most people understand that those words refer to different time periods. Strangely enough, you're both right. Prince sold records in big numbers; Kendrick Lamar sells records in big numbers. Good for both of them.

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By the way, I've always owned all of my master recordings, and every single penny from their sale always has and always will go directly into my pocket. Boo-yah, Prince!

Good for you but your masters are not worth what Prince's are.

You don't know that... maybe they are. Once I figure out how best to monetize them.

Kendrick Lamar is wildly popular right now, and in public favor. A lot of teenagers consider him to be the second coming of Tupac, or something on that level. Prince could only reap benefits from this... except from some of his fanbase, who probably haven't really bothered listening to Kendrick's LPs.

And now I'm remembering back in 2011 when he dropped Section 80 and he was an underground act I felt only I knew about..

Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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No, Prince is not relevant. The Prince of 30 years ago is revered, but nobody gives a fuck about his current music, INCLUDING PRINCE HIMSELF.

"Nobody" gives a fuck except you've been following his every move for at least two decades and probably get his new music as soon as it leaks. Didn't you recently start some kind of site as well?

A good way of proving just how irrelevant you think Prince is would be to stop doing that. Like, just stop following him, DON'T help create new websites, that kind of thing.

Note that this advice is not very different from what I'd say to a guy who keeps telling me just how done he is with his ex, over and over and over, showing you recent pictures to let you know she's (IYO) "letting herself go", telling you about the latest "idiotic" thing she tweeted, etc. "BRO shut up about it or face the fucking fact you've got a bad fixation."

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And once again you fail to address the content and instead launch a personal attack.

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You lose, I win.