CocoRock said:

Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly has been a commercial and critical success, but he almost added one more iconic voice to the final product. In an interview with Hot 97, Lamar revealed that he recorded with Prince, but was "pressed for time" around the new album. Kendrick Lamar RELATED: The Trials of Kendrick Lamar: Inside the New Issue Lamar and Prince worked together at the legendary singer's Minnesota headquarters, where the pair also played a show for a Yahoo livestream. Though their collaboration didn't make the final cut, Lamar was just happy to be able to spend time with the revolutionary performer. "I didn't trip over getting a song done. I really appreciate the actual game he was giving me," said the rapper. "He took control of his music." Though Lamar was coy about the exact advice the "mysterious, mystique man" gave him, he did give a sense of the wisdom the singer shared. "He was breaking down some things that I need to consider in my career," he said. "What [Jay Z] is doing is just confirmation from what Prince was telling me." His mention of Jay Z followed an earlier conversation with the Hot 97 hosts about his thoughts on the new streaming service Tidal, since Lamar confirmed a collaborative album with one of its owners, J. Cole. Lamar praised the new streaming service even though his mentor Dr. Dre runs its competitor Beats Music. Still, he did not shut down the possibility of making his music available through the artist-owned service. Like To Pimp a Butterfly, Lamar did not shy away from the topic of race in the new interview. When asked about his controversial comments to Billboard that insinuated he was victim-blaming slain teen Michael Brown, Lamar stood by his comments. "For them to take my words out of context, I forgive them," said Lamar about his critics. "I speak for self first. When I say respect, I still deal with that. Just because I'm in the limelight doesn't mean I don't have animosity towards this gang over here when they just killed two of my homeboys on tour, and I gotta get a call that say 'Yeah, that's who did it.' I still feel that energy. I still feel that hatred." He ended his thoughts with a request to not take his words out of context. "I'm the only one — if not the only one, there's a few more out there — that's really speaking from the streets and from every urban neighborhood in the world. I forgive you." Lamar's second major label album is currently at the top of the Billboard 200 for a second straight week. http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20150401

The famous Prince mind-fuck. Hopefully it didn't take. What worked for Prince ususally doesn't work well for anybody else. Like Terrance Trent D'Arby.

Was just about to post this, here is the vid where he talks about Prince at the end...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkedvCA8330

It wasn't too clear, when he said they were pressed for time, so I'm not sure if he wanted to finish the song and didn't get to finish or it just didn't get picked for the album...

Will be interesting to see if the collabs with Rita Orta and the song written for Rihanna will ever surface.

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

CocoRock said:

Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly has been a commercial and critical success, but he almost added one more iconic voice to the final product. In an interview with Hot 97, Lamar revealed that he recorded with Prince, but was "pressed for time" around the new album. Kendrick Lamar RELATED: The Trials of Kendrick Lamar: Inside the New Issue Lamar and Prince worked together at the legendary singer's Minnesota headquarters, where the pair also played a show for a Yahoo livestream. Though their collaboration didn't make the final cut, Lamar was just happy to be able to spend time with the revolutionary performer. "I didn't trip over getting a song done. I really appreciate the actual game he was giving me," said the rapper. "He took control of his music." Though Lamar was coy about the exact advice the "mysterious, mystique man" gave him, he did give a sense of the wisdom the singer shared. "He was breaking down some things that I need to consider in my career," he said. "What [Jay Z] is doing is just confirmation from what Prince was telling me." His mention of Jay Z followed an earlier conversation with the Hot 97 hosts about his thoughts on the new streaming service Tidal, since Lamar confirmed a collaborative album with one of its owners, J. Cole. Lamar praised the new streaming service even though his mentor Dr. Dre runs its competitor Beats Music. Still, he did not shut down the possibility of making his music available through the artist-owned service. Like To Pimp a Butterfly, Lamar did not shy away from the topic of race in the new interview. When asked about his controversial comments to Billboard that insinuated he was victim-blaming slain teen Michael Brown, Lamar stood by his comments. "For them to take my words out of context, I forgive them," said Lamar about his critics. "I speak for self first. When I say respect, I still deal with that. Just because I'm in the limelight doesn't mean I don't have animosity towards this gang over here when they just killed two of my homeboys on tour, and I gotta get a call that say 'Yeah, that's who did it.' I still feel that energy. I still feel that hatred." He ended his thoughts with a request to not take his words out of context. "I'm the only one — if not the only one, there's a few more out there — that's really speaking from the streets and from every urban neighborhood in the world. I forgive you." Lamar's second major label album is currently at the top of the Billboard 200 for a second straight week. http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20150401

The famous Prince mind-fuck. Hopefully it didn't take. What worked for Prince ususally doesn't work well for anybody else. Like Terrance Trent D'Arby.

What exactly did he do like Prince? And his career lives on in Europe - he has steadily released some brilliant material. In a way, he - like Prince - was one of the pioneers of independent distribution and online marketing. He - also like Prince - is too prolific for the standard music industy template so he is atually right where he needs to be.

JoshuaWho said:

funksterr said:

The famous Prince mind-fuck. Hopefully it didn't take. What worked for Prince ususally doesn't work well for anybody else. Like Terrance Trent D'Arby.

What exactly did he do like Prince? And his career lives on in Europe - he has steadily released some brilliant material. In a way, he - like Prince - was one of the pioneers of independent distribution and online marketing. He - also like Prince - is too prolific for the standard music industy template so he is atually right where he needs to be.

TTD doesn't appear to be successful in Europe either. I know he makes awful new albums, just like Prince. Without a real contract or manager, just like Prince. Changed his name, just like Prince. And is a commercial disaster, just like Prince. I'm not even sure Prince gave him the talk, like he has so many other artists, but he's mentioned Prince's symbol-era as inspiration. Either way, artists that follow Prince's advice usually end up burning bridges and blaming others when their careers stall... just like Prince!

Shit, maybe that's the advice: 'Burn all your bridges, blame everbody else when you fail'.

laurarichardson said:

funksterr said:

The famous Prince mind-fuck. Hopefully it didn't take. What worked for Prince ususally doesn't work well for anybody else. Like Terrance Trent D'Arby.

Honestly, What The Fuck are you on. You know nothing about Prince and his business and the only thing that messed up TTD was his big mouth and Micheal Jackson

Funny... those are the same two things that steam-rolled Prince's career now that you mention it.

This part speaks volumes:

Though their collaboration didn't make the final cut, Lamar was just happy to be able to spend time with the revolutionary performer. "I didn't trip over getting a song done.

My translation: The track was bad and Prince's terms were egregious, so fuck doing a deal for that song. I was there just to pick the brain of an industry vet. I can't tell you what was said, because, tbh, none of it made any fuggin sense, but hey I can tell my grandkids I did a song with a legend, you know?

To Pimp A Butterfly is a fantastic album - the best I've heard so far this year, in fact. I'm very curious to hear what they worked on, but the album is good enough as it is.

funksterr said:

JoshuaWho said:

What exactly did he do like Prince? And his career lives on in Europe - he has steadily released some brilliant material. In a way, he - like Prince - was one of the pioneers of independent distribution and online marketing. He - also like Prince - is too prolific for the standard music industy template so he is atually right where he needs to be.

TTD doesn't appear to be successful in Europe either. I know he makes awful new albums, just like Prince. Without a real contract or manager, just like Prince. Changed his name, just like Prince. And is a commercial disaster, just like Prince. I'm not even sure Prince gave him the talk, like he has so many other artists, but he's mentioned Prince's symbol-era as inspiration. Either way, artists that follow Prince's advice usually end up burning bridges and blaming others when their careers stall... just like Prince!

Shit, maybe that's the advice: 'Burn all your bridges, blame everbody else when you fail'.

This innerview still proves, that 's independence is the BLUEPRINT, to every artist in the muziq industry....Your negativity toward 's success proves nothing but lies.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funksterr said:

TTD doesn't appear to be successful in Europe either. I know he makes awful new albums, just like Prince. Without a real contract or manager, just like Prince. Changed his name, just like Prince. And is a commercial disaster, just like Prince. I'm not even sure Prince gave him the talk, like he has so many other artists, but he's mentioned Prince's symbol-era as inspiration. Either way, artists that follow Prince's advice usually end up burning bridges and blaming others when their careers stall... just like Prince!

Shit, maybe that's the advice: 'Burn all your bridges, blame everbody else when you fail'.

This interview still proves, that Prince's independence is the WISHFUL THINKING, to every artist in the music industry....Your honesty toward Prince's failure proves nothing but true.

Fixed that for you.

Seriously, hopefully that kid had a good time out at Paisley and kept it moving. Prince can't sell records today, like Kendrick Lamar can. Don't think Prince isn't jealous to some degree. He wishes he had the sales numbers to back up all his bullshit. In the end, Kendrick doesn't have as many talents as Prince, so there is pretty much no way he can pull the stunts Prince does and have longevity.

funksterr said:

This part speaks volumes:

Though their collaboration didn't make the final cut, Lamar was just happy to be able to spend time with the revolutionary performer. "I didn't trip over getting a song done.

My translation: The track was bad and Prince's terms were egregious, so fuck doing a deal for that song. I was there just to pick the brain of an industry vet. I can't tell you what was said, because, tbh, none of it made any fuggin sense, but hey I can tell my grandkids I did a song with a legend, you know?

This is exactly right. There is even a new interview with John Blackwell online that makes Prince sound kind of strange. "Pressed for time"? Give me a fucking break.

bluegangsta said:

To Pimp A Butterfly is a fantastic album - the best I've heard so far this year, in fact. I'm very curious to hear what they worked on, but the album is good enough as it is.

What they did most likely would not fit well on Pimp and that's ok. Lamar is forging his own path and he's having a massively positive reception. It's so great that are still people coming up through the ranks that are not completely processed to death by commerce and show their trailblazing spirit through sheer conviction and talent.

funksterr said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

This interview still proves, that Prince's independence is the WISHFUL THINKING, to every artist in the music industry....Your honesty toward Prince's failure proves nothing but true.

Fixed that for you.

Seriously, hopefully that kid had a good time out at Paisley and kept it moving. Prince can't sell records today, like Kendrick Lamar can. Don't think Prince isn't jealous to some degree. He wishes he had the sales numbers to back up all his bullshit. In the end, Kendrick doesn't have as many talents as Prince, so there is pretty much no way he can pull the stunts Prince does and have longevity.

has already sold over a HUNDRED million albums!What the hell are U talking about? Record sales are the least thing on his mind. His money comes form his masters, MEGA NPGMusicPublishing company & sold out shows. Eye bet U Kendrick doesn't even own his master recordings.

Your wasting my time now...

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3rdeyedude said:

funksterr said:

This part speaks volumes:

My translation: The track was bad and Prince's terms were egregious, so fuck doing a deal for that song. I was there just to pick the brain of an industry vet. I can't tell you what was said, because, tbh, none of it made any fuggin sense, but hey I can tell my grandkids I did a song with a legend, you know?

This is exactly right. There is even a new interview with John Blackwell online that makes Prince sound kind of strange. "Pressed for time"? Give me a fucking break.

There's no shame in recording a good song that doesn't fit on a certain record. Most likely Prince overtook Lamar in the studio and that's not what the record is about, so no inclusion in Pimp. It's better this way, the record is essentially kendrick, as it should.

As well, while Prince tried having other stars on his records as with Rave, his modus operandi is to be 100% Prince, so I don't see him faulting Kendrick (not for long anyway).

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funksterr said:

Fixed that for you.

Seriously, hopefully that kid had a good time out at Paisley and kept it moving. Prince can't sell records today, like Kendrick Lamar can. Don't think Prince isn't jealous to some degree. He wishes he had the sales numbers to back up all his bullshit. In the end, Kendrick doesn't have as many talents as Prince, so there is pretty much no way he can pull the stunts Prince does and have longevity.

has already sold over a HUNDRED million albums!What the hell are U talking about? Record sales are the least thing on his mind. His money comes form his masters, MEGA NPGMusicPublishing company & sold out shows. Eye bet U Kendrick doesn't even own his master recordings.

Your wasting my time now...

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What Prince sold in the past is in the past. This is now. In 2015, he can't sell new music on the level that Kendrick Lamar can.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funksterr said:

Fixed that for you.

Seriously, hopefully that kid had a good time out at Paisley and kept it moving. Prince can't sell records today, like Kendrick Lamar can. Don't think Prince isn't jealous to some degree. He wishes he had the sales numbers to back up all his bullshit. In the end, Kendrick doesn't have as many talents as Prince, so there is pretty much no way he can pull the stunts Prince does and have longevity.

has already sold over a HUNDRED million albums!What the hell are U talking about? Record sales are the least thing on his mind. His money comes form his masters, MEGA NPGMusicPublishing company & sold out shows. Eye bet U Kendrick doesn't even own his master recordings.

Your wasting my time now...

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KCOOL, no one can waste your time except yourself... and now I'm going to waste some of my own. "Has already" and "today"--most people understand that those words refer to different time periods. Strangely enough, you're both right. Prince sold records in big numbers; Kendrick Lamar sells records in big numbers. Good for both of them.

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By the way, I've always owned all of my master recordings, and every single penny from their sale always has and always will go directly into my pocket. Boo-yah, Prince!

I was telling a friend that I think it's Prince playing guitar on "i". the signature riff from "who's that lady" is perfection, as is rest of the guitar on this song.

BlackandRising said:

I was telling a friend that I think it's Prince playing guitar on "i". the signature riff from "who's that lady" is perfection, as is rest of the guitar on this song.

sure sounds like it could be! Very charcteristic! Wouldn't be surprised if you're right

Kendrick who?

I think it sounds like Prince is on guitar on King Kunta after the break where it says " by the time you hear the next pop, the funk will be with you" Sure sounds like Prince guitar riff.

In this section of the song there is what sounds like a sample from Pussy Control running through it ( although I'm not sure if it was sampled from somewhere else for Pussy Control.)

Also earlier in the song he mentions the line-"something's in the water"

funksterr said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

has already sold over a HUNDRED million albums!What the hell are U talking about? Record sales are the least thing on his mind. His money comes form his masters, MEGA NPGMusicPublishing company & sold out shows. Eye bet U Kendrick doesn't even own his master recordings.

Your wasting my time now...

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What Prince sold in the past is in the past. This is now. In 2015, he can't sell new music on the level that Kendrick Lamar can.

Obviously...

And when Kendrick can sell over 21 million copies of just ONE of his albums like Prince did, let me know.

How can anyone call themselves "Kendrick Lamar"??? This name is atrocious

Lamar makes me think of lame, but until proof of the other side...

databank said:

How can anyone call themselves "Kendrick Lamar"??? This name is atrocious

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Yes, how dare he use his own name.

feeluupp said:

funksterr said:

What Prince sold in the past is in the past. This is now. In 2015, he can't sell new music on the level that Kendrick Lamar can.

Obviously...

And when Kendrick can sell over 21 million copies of just ONE of his albums like Prince did, let me know.

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Oh for fuck's sake, that was THIRTY YEARS AGO.

He's a kid from 1987.

Still doing rap which was over by the time he was 20.

So he's filling a niche.

What is that "To Pimp A Butterfly" about, then?

Still no mp3, flac or wav which could end the gossip and start the discussion.

databank said:

BartVanHemelen said:

feeluupp said:

Obviously...

And when Kendrick can sell over 21 million copies of just ONE of his albums like Prince did, let me know.

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Oh for fuck's sake, that was THIRTY YEARS AGO.

Selling over 21 million copies of Purple Rain over THIRTY YEARS AGO doesn't change the fact that it is one of the biggest selling albums of all time and one of the greatest albums of all time.

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