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Reply #30 posted 03/27/15 8:08pm

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Sounds like promotion for all the people who didn't know Hill released new music. The Gold Standard.

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Reply #31 posted 03/27/15 8:15pm

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So Prince getting sued over Judith Hill's album is worthy of this forum but not for producing it & releasing it for free?

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Reply #32 posted 03/27/15 8:36pm

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If a singer has a contract with The Voice (or a producer), the contract is the singer's problem. She would be the one breaching her own contract. If those songs did belong to someone else, she should well have been aware of that. And didn't Live Nation release the music?

Yeah,it seems to me that Judith is the one who should be getting sued.Prince could easily argue that he didn't know about pre-existing contracts that Judith had signed.

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Reply #33 posted 03/27/15 8:49pm

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nosajd said:

So Prince getting sued over Judith Hill's album is worthy of this forum but not for producing it & releasing it for free?

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This is the section for discussion about Prince. Prince is being sued, so the thread is over here.

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There are a couple of threads with hundreds of replies over in the associated artists section. They're over there because that discussion is about Judith Hill.

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Reply #34 posted 03/27/15 8:51pm

fusk

ughhhhhhh now i'm going to get news about prince being sued instead of news of prince doing something i care about...

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i'm losing interest over here

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Reply #35 posted 03/27/15 10:21pm

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Sony sues Prince for 'stealing' The Voice contestant Judith Hill and producing her debut album

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http://www.dailymail.co.u...album.html



Prince sued in legal battle over The Voice singer Judith Hill

Posted March 27 2015 — 9:49 PM EDT

Prince is being sued for allegedly working with singer Judith Hill to release her first album as a free digital download, interfering with a contract Hill had with producer Jolene Cherry and Sony.

After Hill appeared on The Voice in 2013, she signed an exclusive recording contract with Sony and Cherry, a producer known for discovering Lady Gaga, and began work on her first album.

In the suit obtained by EW, Cherry alleges that several months ago the producer heard rumors that Hill, in spite of their legal arrangement, was recording with Prince. Hill asked if she could collaborate on an album with Prince, but Sony and Cherry denied her request as they had spent a lot of time and money on her first album already. Hill and Prince were warned that continuing to work together would put her in breach of her contract.

"Judith Hill's first album—'Back in Time'—is now out, but rather than cheering along with her, the people who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop her career and album and worked to position Hill for her first release (as well as those who co-wrote many of the songs) are sitting dumb-founded on the sidelines while Prince gives away their investment for free," the legal documents stated.

Cherry is now seeking damages to compensate them for their losses, as well as punitive damages "to hold Prince accountable for tortuously interfering in its agreement with Hill and recover damages stemming from the fact that he deliberately interfered with its relationship with Hill and made it economically unfeasible for them to ever release Hill's first album."

But Judith Hill's lawyer, Peter Haviland, says that the lawsuit is "nothing but a publicity stunt."

"Judith Hill was and is absolutely free to perform her music as she has done. She sued in New York on March 25 to confirm that she was free and to stop Cherry from continuing to bother her. Now in response Cherry counter-sues, in Los Angeles—improperly—even though a case is already pending against Cherry in New York. The Los Angeles suit is nothing but a publicity stunt," Haviland said in a statement to EW. "Prince supports, promotes and gives opportunity to truly exceptional talent like Judith Hill. It is a shame that Prince has been dragged into this insanity, but Judith Hill will not be deterred from performing her music by the likes of some Jolene Cherry."

Source: Entertainment Weekly http://www.ew.com/article...udith-hill

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Reply #36 posted 03/27/15 10:54pm

novabrkr

fusk said:

nosajd said:

So Prince getting sued over Judith Hill's album is worthy of this forum but not for producing it & releasing it for free?

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This is the section for discussion about Prince. Prince is being sued, so the thread is over here.

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There are a couple of threads with hundreds of replies over in the associated artists section. They're over there because that discussion is about Judith Hill.


Prince is all over the album. He's even singing co-lead vocals on it.

The associated artists section should be preserved for discussion on what those artists do on their own.

It's ridiculous that so many visitors here blew their chances to find about this record due to juvenile ideals about "forum content purity". At the moment of writing this, this thread appears on the front page as a "news item", but there's no mention whatsover about the record having been available for download at all.

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Reply #37 posted 03/27/15 10:55pm

sovembol

Prince and legal fees usually translates into .. Prince is going on tour! Hit N Run coming to your town!

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Reply #38 posted 03/27/15 11:05pm

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novabrkr said:

fusk said:

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This is the section for discussion about Prince. Prince is being sued, so the thread is over here.

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There are a couple of threads with hundreds of replies over in the associated artists section. They're over there because that discussion is about Judith Hill.


Prince is all over the album. He's even singing co-lead vocals on it.

The associated artists section should be preserved for discussion on what those artists do on their own.

It's ridiculous that so many visitors here blew their chances to find about this record due to juvenile ideals about "forum content purity". At the moment of writing this, this thread appears on the front page as a "news item", but there's no mention whatsover about the record having been available for download at all.


See http://prince.org/msg/5/415069 Discussion about free download via email from LiveNation.

Hmmmmm............. will the lawsuit affect Live Nation too???

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Reply #39 posted 03/27/15 11:24pm

novabrkr

luv4u said:

novabrkr said:


Prince is all over the album. He's even singing co-lead vocals on it.

The associated artists section should be preserved for discussion on what those artists do on their own.

It's ridiculous that so many visitors here blew their chances to find about this record due to juvenile ideals about "forum content purity". At the moment of writing this, this thread appears on the front page as a "news item", but there's no mention whatsover about the record having been available for download at all.


See http://prince.org/msg/5/415069 Free download via email from LiveNation.


And how was a thread titled "A note from Prince - Judith Hill" buried somewhere in the "Associated artists & people" going to help the fans find the record within the limited amount of time it was available? Do you honestly think most people that visit this site check out that forum regularly? Nothing in the thread title even really indicates that a new record is out.

There should have been a news item on the front page on this release being available that would have been titled in a clear enough manner.

The description for the "Associated artists & People" reads "talk about ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc". A note sent by Prince HIMSELF should not go there and remain there exclusively.

Furthermore, we should be allowed to discuss Prince's contributions on the record, because it certainly fits the "Prince: Music and more" description.

I know we shouldn't continue to debate the modding decisions on the threads themselves, so I'll stop here. The problem with debating these issues on the "site discussion" forum is just that hardly anybody reads that forum regularly either (not even the owners of this site, it seems). I know you're one of the only ones doing modding work when it's urgently needed and so many others have simply stopped doing it regularly, but the information on this particular release on this site has been handled really badly.

[Edited 3/27/15 23:48pm]

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Reply #40 posted 03/27/15 11:27pm

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Sony is not suing Prince, it is Jolene Cherry. I advise you mods to change the thread title.
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Reply #41 posted 03/27/15 11:54pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:


prince is NOT stupid! He is a very smart man. This is the same man, that negotiated himself out of a signed, iron clad, multi million dollar, contract with WBR. Then went independent. He knows what he is doing. He has been in the muziq biz 4 36 YEARS.....



rolleyes Yet he still does not comprehend WHO has kept him in the muSIC biz for 36 years.



lol you know he has tried many times. You have to give
him some props especially in the NPG MUSIC CLUB
era.
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Reply #42 posted 03/28/15 12:05am

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novabrkr said:



fusk said:




nosajd said:


So Prince getting sued over Judith Hill's album is worthy of this forum but not for producing it & releasing it for free?



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This is the section for discussion about Prince. Prince is being sued, so the thread is over here.


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There are a couple of threads with hundreds of replies over in the associated artists section. They're over there because that discussion is about Judith Hill.




Prince is all over the album. He's even singing co-lead vocals on
it.

The associated artists section should be preserved for discussion on what those artists do on their own.

It's ridiculous that so many visitors here blew their chances to find about this record due to juvenile
ideals about "forum content purity". At the moment of writing this, this thread appears on the front page as a "news item", but there's no mention whatsover about the record having been available for download at all.



You're wrong.

There WAS a thread in the Prince Forum specifically about the Livenation download with a big capitalized header to catch readers attention.

It was subsequently locked and is now, obviously, redundant.
"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #43 posted 03/28/15 12:07am

trickster

Oh, this is what prince is waiting for!! The final battle! Steeling an Recording slave wink Keep on fighting
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Reply #44 posted 03/28/15 12:15am

novabrkr

BlackCandle said:

novabrkr said:


Prince is all over the album. He's even singing co-lead vocals on it.

The associated artists section should be preserved for discussion on what those artists do on their own.

It's ridiculous that so many visitors here blew their chances to find about this record due to juvenile ideals about "forum content purity". At the moment of writing this, this thread appears on the front page as a "news item", but there's no mention whatsover about the record having been available for download at all.

You're wrong. There WAS a thread in the Prince Forum specifically about the Livenation download with a big capitalized header to catch readers attention. It was subsequently locked and is now, obviously, redundant.


How am I wrong if the thread was locked, no further posts on the thread were allowed and we're supposed to discuss Prince's contributions to this project on a subforum where were mainly supposed to have topics about "ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends etc."?

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Reply #45 posted 03/28/15 12:17am

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novabrkr said:

BlackCandle said:

novabrkr said: You're wrong. There WAS a thread in the Prince Forum specifically about the Livenation download with a big capitalized header to catch readers attention. It was subsequently locked and is now, obviously, redundant.


How am I wrong if the thread was locked, no further posts on the thread were allowed and we're supposed to discuss Prince's contributions to this project on a subforum where were mainly supposed to have topics about "ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends etc."?



Geez, nothing like derailing a thread. Please get back on topic, thanks. biggrin

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Reply #46 posted 03/28/15 12:41am

novabrkr

luv4u said:

novabrkr said:


How am I wrong if the thread was locked, no further posts on the thread were allowed and we're supposed to discuss Prince's contributions to this project on a subforum where were mainly supposed to have topics about "ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends etc."?



Geez, nothing like derailing a thread. Please get back on topic, thanks. biggrin


Don't accuse me of derailing a thread when I didn't even bring this issue up. I'm the third person commenting on it. I only wrote a lengthy description of what was wrong in order to express in clearer terms what the problem is.

I would have sent you this reply as an orgnote, but since you publicly chose to criticize my posts I think I should be allowed to do the same.

[Edited 3/28/15 0:52am]

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Reply #47 posted 03/28/15 1:48am

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http://www.hollywoodrepor...mps-784935 and the complaint: http://www.scribd.com/doc...771/Cherry

"According to the complaint filed in L.A. Superior Court on Friday, Hill signed an exclusive recording agreement with a joint venture between Sony and The Cherry Party after appearing on The Voice in 2013. Cherry, a talent scout who takes credit for discovering Lady Gaga, says her relationship with Sony was later restructured and that The Cherry Party became a successor-in-interest to rights under the recording agreement.

Hill's deal is said to have required the singer to make four albums, but prior to the restructuring, there were rumors that she was meeting with Prince.

Cherry says that she rejected Hill's request to record and release an album with Prince and earlier this month, sent Hill a warning that working with Prince would violate the recording agreement."

Something amazing is about to happen? popcorn

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Reply #48 posted 03/28/15 2:27am

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I don't see how Prince could be sued over Judith' breach of contract.

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It is well known that contestants to "talent" shows like The Voice are locked in restrictive contracts.

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Reply #49 posted 03/28/15 2:28am

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According to Hill's lawyer, this is Cherry doing a publicity stunt for an artist who is free of Cherry and doesn't want to be bothered with Cherry? But why? I don't get it.
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Reply #50 posted 03/28/15 2:28am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prince is NOT stupid! He is a very smart man. This is the same man, that negotiated himself out of a signed, iron clad, multi million dollar, contract with WBR.

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Utter lie. He got out of that contract because he still had friends at the upper echelon at WBR.

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Reply #51 posted 03/28/15 2:30am

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This could be good news, might have to do a world tour and open the vault!
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Reply #52 posted 03/28/15 2:56am

thisisreece

Prince hadn't signed any contract, Judith Hill had, surely he's a little out of reach on this one?

[Edited 3/28/15 2:56am]

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Reply #53 posted 03/28/15 3:34am

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BartVanHemelen said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prince is NOT stupid! He is a very smart man. This is the same man, that negotiated himself out of a signed, iron clad, multi million dollar, contract with WBR.

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Utter lie. He got out of that contract because he still had friends at the upper echelon at WBR.


Plus: smart people don't join the JW's.

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #54 posted 03/28/15 5:46am

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Pentacle said:



BartVanHemelen said:




KCOOLMUZIQ said:


prince is NOT stupid! He is a very smart man. This is the same man, that negotiated himself out of a signed, iron clad, multi million dollar, contract with WBR.



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Utter lie. He got out of that contract because he still had friends at the upper echelon at WBR.




Plus: smart people don't join the JW's.


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Dude, I'm not JW but what you said is pretty rude since they're just as human as you are.
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Reply #55 posted 03/28/15 6:03am

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Prince should've known better. Moron.
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Reply #56 posted 03/28/15 6:31am

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nosajd said:

Pentacle said:


Plus: smart people don't join the JW's.

. Dude, I'm not JW but what you said is pretty rude since they're just as human as you are.


No they're not.

PS Half my family is JW.

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Reply #57 posted 03/28/15 6:41am

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maybe that is why he had a last minute "closed-door" announcement to make on a Sunday night during a snow storm and then gave the music away the next day........he knew he was doing the wrong thing and probably didn't give a fuck because he is rich

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Reply #58 posted 03/28/15 6:51am

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nosajd said:

Pentacle said:


Plus: smart people don't join the JW's.

. Dude, I'm not JW but what you said is pretty rude since they're just as human as you are.

U have to remember it is a lot of atheist on this site.....disbelief

Just pray 4 them 2 b delivered from their evil ways...

pray

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #59 posted 03/28/15 6:52am

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iZsaZsa said:

According to Hill's lawyer, this is Cherry doing a publicity stunt for an artist who is free of Cherry and doesn't want to be bothered with Cherry? But why? I don't get it.


"...Judith Hill’s lawyer, Peter Haviland, says that the lawsuit is “nothing but a publicity stunt.”

Judith Hill was and is absolutely free to perform her music as she has done. She sued in New York on March 25 to confirm that she was free and to stop Cherry from continuing to bother her. Now in response Cherry counter-sues, in Los Angeles—improperly—even though a case is already pending against Cherry in New York. The Los Angeles suit is nothing but a publicity stunt,” Haviland said in a statement to EW. “Prince supports, promotes and gives opportunity to truly exceptional talent like Judith Hill. It is a shame that Prince has been dragged into this insanity, but Judith Hill will not be deterred from performing her music by the likes of some Jolene Cherry.”..."

http://www.ew.com/article...udith-hill

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