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The Story of Madhouse
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Thank you for posting. ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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Yeah--thanks for posting this. Glad to see it.
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This is the same article published in Wax Poetics some years ago. © Bart Van Hemelen
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"...Prince layering his piano and keyboards on top of his own bass, on top of his own drums, continuously reacting to himself as a stranger from a musician’s point of view, is Prince earning his musical genius reputation." Notice that there is no guitar in it. That's what makes the albums so unique, imho. That, and badass sax tracks by Eric Leeds. "Whatever skin we're in
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Absence of guitar is very common in jazz. Much less in P's music, though. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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nayroo2002 said: "...Prince layering his piano and keyboards on top of his own bass, on top of his own drums, continuously reacting to himself as a stranger from a musician’s point of view, is Prince earning his musical genius reputation." Notice that there is no guitar in it. That's what makes the albums so unique, imho. That, and badass sax tracks by Eric Leeds. P's drumming on Madhouse 8 is ridiculous. M8 is truly underrated. Critics got too caught up in the Jazz Purist notion of instrumental music to give it a fair play. It has finally found a cult audience. The musical ideas are so vibrant...so Prince. | |
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Agreed! Same with The Flesh sessions. The wooh is on the one! | |
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I think jazz critics pretty much ignored it at the time and only here have I read people complaining that "Prince can't play jazz", which isn't really a point when it comes to the quality of his jazz-funk records because they are what they are and they stand on their own. So I don't think 8 is so underrated, it's obviously a fan favorite and I'm pretty much certain critics would rave about it today if it was to get a proper remaster/rerelease treatment. Actually in the context of the jazz scene of the 80's 8 and 16 are extremelky strong albums: back then u basically had 3 jazz movements: some who were doing good ol' hardbop (they're still here), those who were into the arty-farty, highly experimental free-jazz scene that had its headquarters in NY and those who tried to incorporate electronic 80's elements into their jazz, often in a somewhat clumsy way. Prince, who had been a few years earlier a forerunner in the use of eletronic gear, managed to avoid this trap and came-up with organic jazz-funk records that avoided a gross inclusion of electronic instruments without trying to imitate classic hardbop either, basically he just did what he usually did, only instrumental and with a more pronounced jazzy approach. As a consequence, 8 and 16 are pretty unique for their time and haven't aged much, they're "out of time" albums. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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databank said:
I think jazz critics pretty much ignored it at the time and only here have I read people complaining that "Prince can't play jazz", which isn't really a point when it comes to the quality of his jazz-funk records because they are what they are and they stand on their own. So I don't think 8 is so underrated, it's obviously a fan favorite and I'm pretty much certain critics would rave about it today if it was to get a proper remaster/rerelease treatment. Actually in the context of the jazz scene of the 80's 8 and 16 are extremelky strong albums: back then u basically had 3 jazz movements: some who were doing good ol' hardbop (they're still here), those who were into the arty-farty, highly experimental free-jazz scene that had its headquarters in NY and those who tried to incorporate electronic 80's elements into their jazz, often in a somewhat clumsy way. Prince, who had been a few years earlier a forerunner in the use of eletronic gear, managed to avoid this trap and came-up with organic jazz-funk records that avoided a gross inclusion of electronic instruments without trying to imitate classic hardbop either, basically he just did what he usually did, only instrumental and with a more pronounced jazzy approach. As a consequence, 8 and 16 are pretty unique for their time and haven't aged much, they're "out of time" albums. Interesting perspective. Btw- M8 also had one of my fave P album covers...cool overall concept for project. | |
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He was trying to impress Miles. He was a fan of Weather Report. This is WR lite. With Princey ideas in dribs. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: He was trying to impress Miles. He was a fan of Weather Report. This is WR lite. With Princey ideas in dribs. And Miles was a fan of P | |
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