I was curious if the full version of this little ditty is out there? I've enjoyed the 2:09 track and kinda have a soft spot for the song given its backstory between Prince and Lisa.

A little note :

I have an old mp3 rip of this track where he counts on 1,2,3, before the track starts
The count off has been omitted on my flac files

FragileUndertow said:

A little note :

I have an old mp3 rip of this track where he counts on 1,2,3, before the track starts
The count off has been omitted on my flac files

Hi there,

May I ask how long is the running time on your older MP3 for this track?

Thank you in advance for any info you can provide

Averett said:

FragileUndertow said:

A little note :

I have an old mp3 rip of this track where he counts on 1,2,3, before the track starts
The count off has been omitted on my flac files

Hi there,

May I ask how long is the running time on your older MP3 for this track?

Thank you in advance for any info you can provide

Mp3 with count off runs a full 2:09

Flac / Work It Disc 4 / 2:09 / Omits the count off, and has 2 seconds of silence at the end

It's a 2 second difference, nothing major

FragileUndertow said:

Averett said:

Hi there,

May I ask how long is the running time on your older MP3 for this track?

Thank you in advance for any info you can provide

Mp3 with count off runs a full 2:09

Flac / Work It Disc 4 / 2:09 / Omits the count off, and has 2 seconds of silence at the end

It's a 2 second difference, nothing major

Gotcha. Sounds close if not identical to the version on Testament 2.0

Thank you for the clarification.

I remember someone claiming to have this in pristine condition.

Did that ever see the light of day?

The version I have sounds pretty shitty and is incomplete.

Funny thing about it, is that it is in the 1982 folder, when with the tinny keyboards and squeaky falsetto sounds like something from the late Dirty Mind/early Controversy era rather than the better music of the Linn drum dominated 1999 era.

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I seem to have the 2.09 version as well and it is an alright song, I would not go crazy about. Nver knew it was about Lisa. I thought being 1982 it would be about Jill or Vanity. Now it possibly being older it may be about Lisa.

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I always associate it with Turn it Up and Dance to the beat for some reason as well. They all have a similar sound and sound like they were all recorded at the same time. (Mid to late 1981).

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Some of the Chronology on that IVault and The Work 2.0 was chronologically messed up as Tick Tick Bang and Feel U up are in the 1982 or 1980 folder as well, when it is clearly obvious they sound like Controversy era out takes of 1981. Feel u up may belater 1981 as it has a Linn drum running through it, but there is Linn on Controversy.

Adorecream said:

Never knew it was about Lisa. I thought being 1982 it would be about Jill or Vanity. Now it possibly being older it may be about Lisa.

Just in case folks want more info on the writing of the track (per PrinceVault):

Lisa Coleman mentioned the track during a 2004 interview, admitting that the song was written about her. She was living with Prince in 1981; they had an argument when he suggested she finds her own place; she left and drove around for a few hours; when she returned, Prince had written and recorded this song for her, with the lyric "I guess I have a strange way of saying I love you".

Adorecream said:

Funny thing about it, is that it is in the 1982 folder, when with the tinny keyboards and squeaky falsetto sounds like something from the late Dirty Mind/early Controversy era rather than the better music of the Linn drum dominated 1999 era.

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I seem to have the 2.09 version as well and it is an alright song, I would not go crazy about. Nver knew it was about Lisa. I thought being 1982 it would be about Jill or Vanity. Now it possibly being older it may be about Lisa.

.

I always associate it with Turn it Up and Dance to the beat for some reason as well. They all have a similar sound and sound like they were all recorded at the same time. (Mid to late 1981).

.

Some of the Chronology on that IVault and The Work 2.0 was chronologically messed up as Tick Tick Bang and Feel U up are in the 1982 or 1980 folder as well, when it is clearly obvious they sound like Controversy era out takes of 1981. Feel u up may belater 1981 as it has a Linn drum running through it, but there is Linn on Controversy.

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I would again suggest that a number of outtakes, and also released tracks, have been misdated. 'Allegiance' is my pet case-in-point; it may have been shopped around to Paisley Park artists ~1991, but it is quite clearly a circa early 1989 recording. It uses almost all of the same patches/(stock) samples as 'Dance with the Devil', and the bass guitar appears to be mixed identically. It seems it was dated enough by the time Howard Hewett became attached to it that they decided to rerecord it entirely from scratch. 'All My Dreams' may have been initially tracked in 1985, but the apparently completed circulating version is with mid-1986 elaborate Fairlight and overdubs. I don't believe there is a 1991 'update' to 'Old Friends 4 Sale', I believe the less personal lyrical changes were completed in late 1985 or 1986 for potential use on a post-Parade album. 'I Wonder' is certainly much older than its often-attributed 1990 or 1991, more likely 1986 (kith and kin with other semi-a capella or largely vocal-driven works of the same era, 'Forever in My Life', 'Big Tall Wall', 'Train'). The 'Dream Factory' 'Witness' is most likely a late 1980-early 1982 demo overdubbed (as was the craze of that era) in early/mid-1986 entirely by other Revolution/Counter-Revolution members without further Prince vocal or instrumental involvement (it was, however, of course rerecorded entirely from scratch in late-1986 in a Bob Georgeish production style). My instincts tell me that 'Strange Way' is early 1981. 'Feel U Up'/'Irresistable Bitch' suite are clearly mid-to-late 1981, probably from roughly the same period that 'Jerk Out' was initially tracked, leading up in his musical development to that early Hookers/Vanity 6-esque and pseudo-rockabilly ('No Call U', 'Turn It Up', 'Horny Toad') synthesized sound and gradually breaking away from some of the late 70s/very early 1980s tinges that are still preserved in his Controversy-era sound.

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And small parcels of time in the Prince world can amount to major and disceranable differences in sound, eras or 'eras within eras'.

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[Edited 2/3/15 14:13pm]

I really love that song. World could be better if mr. Nelson could release "Crystal Ball II" and "Roadhouse Garden".