Reply #120 posted 02/16/15 5:48pm
lezama 
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funksterr said:
jasminejoey said:
Anybody who gives a shit about the music.
Which is no one. I remember when I first realized Joshua Whelton was a major player in Prince's music, and neither of them knew what the hell they were doing. I heard a fanmade clip of "She's Always In My Hair" at a 3EG concert. Which was all types of sample laden fuck-ery. Fans that attended the show were head over heels bragging about how great the music was. When I asked about the fuck-ery, they said they couldn't tell at the time of the live show, because they were in the moment. Nobody is truly paying attention at a live concert. Even if you were, due to room acoustics, you still wouldn't be able to say with a lot of accuracy anything about the performance. I believe that's why Prince doesn't like cellphones and bootlegs revealing to the world the true nature of the event. The people that were at the show perceive something different.
I think the Revolution are plenty tight and capable a band. I don't remember them having any problems the last few times they played charity shows for Bobby Z and Sheila E. Even is they weren't though, I'd still want them over any other Prince band.
The core band of Hannah, Ida, Prince & Donna actually sound tight as hell on that song. I can overlook the synth parts of Josh on that song live because the core band sounds great with it. I'm not sure what "samples" you're talking about though. Change it one more time.. |
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Reply #121 posted 02/16/15 6:09pm
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lezama said:
funksterr said:
Which is no one. I remember when I first realized Joshua Whelton was a major player in Prince's music, and neither of them knew what the hell they were doing. I heard a fanmade clip of "She's Always In My Hair" at a 3EG concert. Which was all types of sample laden fuck-ery. Fans that attended the show were head over heels bragging about how great the music was. When I asked about the fuck-ery, they said they couldn't tell at the time of the live show, because they were in the moment. Nobody is truly paying attention at a live concert. Even if you were, due to room acoustics, you still wouldn't be able to say with a lot of accuracy anything about the performance. I believe that's why Prince doesn't like cellphones and bootlegs revealing to the world the true nature of the event. The people that were at the show perceive something different.
I think the Revolution are plenty tight and capable a band. I don't remember them having any problems the last few times they played charity shows for Bobby Z and Sheila E. Even is they weren't though, I'd still want them over any other Prince band.
The core band of Hannah, Ida, Prince & Donna actually sound tight as hell on that song. I can overlook the synth parts of Josh on that song live because the core band sounds great with it. I'm not sure what "samples" you're talking about though.
You can't achieve a proper Minnepolis Sound by overlooking the synths. That's the kind of thing that should never happen with Prince, but has actually happened more often than not since the Revolution ended.
The samples were like the ones used on Mutiny, when they played the George Lopez Show. |
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Reply #122 posted 02/17/15 5:07pm
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funksterr said:
jasminejoey said:
Anybody who gives a shit about the music.
Which is no one. I remember when I first realized Joshua Whelton was a major player in Prince's music, and neither of them knew what the hell they were doing. I heard a fanmade clip of "She's Always In My Hair" at a 3EG concert. Which was all types of sample laden fuck-ery.
It's toward the end of the solo, it sounds incredible live, it takes the song to another level. Simple but effective.
Fans that attended the show were head over heels bragging about how great the music was. When I asked about the fuck-ery, they said they couldn't tell at the time of the live show, because they were in the moment. Nobody is truly paying attention at a live concert. Even if you were, due to room acoustics, you still wouldn't be able to say with a lot of accuracy anything about the performance. I believe that's why Prince doesn't like cellphones and bootlegs revealing to the world the true nature of the event. The people that were at the show perceive something different.
That's such a ridiculous statement it's signiture-worthy.
You believe a fan cell phone recording is better reference than actually being there? That has to be a first.
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Reply #123 posted 02/18/15 10:07am
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HatrinaHaterwitz said:
SquirrelMeat said:
funksterr said:
I call B.S. on this post for a number of reasons, but chief among them... Who the F goes to a concert to hear how tight the band is? Nobody that matters, that's for sure. A concert is about a vibe. It's about date night. It's about having fun and reliving your favorite songs, in realtime with the artist(s) that created them. What kind of nerd azz fool is in there with a notebook or some shit critiquing the band and checking for tightness? People come to have a good time. That's what I do anyway. Most other people to. That's why every other backing band is pretty much fradulent on the biggest hits. I want Wendy and Lisa chiming in on vox. I want Dr Fink to solo on "Head". I'm at the concert looking to have a good time, and it could not be better than hearing the originals.
Thats not what I said. I don't go to monitor the band, but of course you end up appreciating good musicianship while you are there. See them enough and you get a good idea of their ability.
Equally, I don't go to relive favourite songs. I've been there, done that. I enjoyed Dr Fink solo on Head when he did it. I don't need it again, especially when it would be a shadow of its former self.
I would much rather go to a Prince gig tomorrow and hear the two new albums performed than try to relive some youth fantasy and hear Raspberet Beret for the millionth time.
The originals were great, when they were original. I still enjoy hearing the likes of Purple Rain, but I'd be much more excited to hear Clouds.
Yet and still this was the set list of the "Old Boss's" most recent concert:
*Credit to Orger Aiden*
Here's the set list that I live tweeted (and gave to Dr funkenberry):
PURPLE RAIN
LETS GO CRAZY
TAKE ME WITH U (with Liv Warfield)
U GOT THE LOOK (with Liv Warfield)
FUNK N ROLL/FUNK N ROLL REMIX
CONTROVERSY
1999
LITTLE RED CORVETTE
NOTHING COMPARES 2 U
KISS (extended)
ONLY LOVE CAN HURT LIKE THIS (Paloma Faith Cover) (with Liv Warfield)
Sampler + Band Set
- "turn the lights off, this is not a country and western show" prince
WHEN DOES CRY (full with new "oh"chant)
SIGN O THE TIMES (full band join in, slightly altered melody in verse)
DARLING NIKKI (intro) (crowd go WILD)
HOT THING
A LOVE BIZARRE (intro)
POP LIFE
I WOULD DIE 4 U
4EVER IN MY LIFE
HOUSEQUAKE (including 3rd Eye solos)
U KNOW (intro)
THE GOLD STANDARD (sample)
IF I WAS UR GIRLFRIEND (short)
GUITAR
PLECTRUMELECTRUM
"Thank you London
Encore 1
"This is dedicated to a friend of mine" - P
THE BREAKDOWN (in full P at Piano)
WHATS MY NAME?
STRATUS
SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL (abandoned after 2 lines)
DREAMER
Encore 2
Prince "we gotta go after this one"
LETS WORK
DONT STOP TIL U GET ENOUGH
During this he shouted "You know who wrote this?
COOL
Prince clearly knows what butters his damn bread! Why he's so hell bent on not breaking off that loaf with the other original bakers, is what I have a real serious problem with understanding.
You said: I enjoyed Dr Fink solo on Head when he did it. I don't need it again, especially when it would be a shadow of its former self.
I have no idea what makes you think that, because I'd put down cash money, right now, on Dr. Fink doing that BETTER than he's EVER did it before! Oh nice. I love that Paloma faith song. The studio version as well as the live piano+mic version. And live has a great voice for a song like that one. Wish I had a bite of THAT sammich.
Oh yeah...also...seems like much more that rehashing PR was involved in that set list. [Edited 2/18/15 10:08am] |
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Reply #124 posted 02/18/15 5:49pm
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Noodled24 said:
funksterr said:
It's toward the end of the solo, it sounds incredible live, it takes the song to another level. Simple but effective.
Fans that attended the show were head over heels bragging about how great the music was. When I asked about the fuck-ery, they said they couldn't tell at the time of the live show, because they were in the moment. Nobody is truly paying attention at a live concert. Even if you were, due to room acoustics, you still wouldn't be able to say with a lot of accuracy anything about the performance. I believe that's why Prince doesn't like cellphones and bootlegs revealing to the world the true nature of the event. The people that were at the show perceive something different.
That's such a ridiculous statement it's signiture-worthy.
You believe a fan cell phone recording is better reference than actually being there? That has to be a first.
People miss a lot. You ever listen to Mariah Carey's untreated live vocals? You know how many bands actually record their tracks in advance and then jam along with them during the show these days? How many acts do NOTHING live at all anymore? Most people can't tell. And if you don't know how room acoustics can be misleading, look it up before attacking people who do.
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Reply #125 posted 02/19/15 2:01pm
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funksterr said:
Noodled24 said:
People miss a lot. You ever listen to Mariah Carey's untreated live vocals? You know how many bands actually record their tracks in advance and then jam along with them during the show these days? How many acts do NOTHING live at all anymore?
None of that is new? Bands have done this for a while. Are you saying you think Prince does this?
Most people can't tell. And if you don't know how room acoustics can be misleading, look it up before attacking people who do.
I never questioned the factor of room accoustics. I questioned you claiming a recording done from a mobile phone gave you a better sense of the music vs being there.
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Reply #126 posted 02/19/15 7:46pm
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Noodled24 said:
funksterr said:
None of that is new? Bands have done this for a while. Are you saying you think Prince does this?
Josh sometimes triggers prerecorded music off his laptop into their songs. No doubt about that really.
I never questioned the factor of room accoustics. I questioned you claiming a recording done from a mobile phone gave you a better sense of the music vs being there.
What I said is that people at the concert are not likely to pay close attention to detail becuase they are in a different frame of mind entirely. Even if they did pay close attention they can be easily fooled. I watched a cell phone video and detected things people at the show said they didn't notice at the time, so yeah it can give you a better sense of what occurred. |
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Reply #127 posted 02/20/15 12:05pm
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funksterr said:
Josh sometimes triggers prerecorded music off his laptop into their songs. No doubt about that really.
By pre-recorded music you mean a handful of synth samples? .
What I said is that people at the concert are not likely to pay close attention to detail becuase they are in a different frame of mind entirely. Even if they did pay close attention they can be easily fooled. I watched a cell phone video and detected things people at the show said they didn't notice at the time, so yeah it can give you a better sense of what occurred.
Going to a concert and hearing something once live. No you don't get the same detail as listening to a recording multiple times. Then again it's much poorer quality and subject to the same room-acoustic
I'm still not sure what your point is? You use words like "fooled" - which implies you think Prince and/or the band are upto something.
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