funksterr said:

TRC, is a great Prince album

If you like anti-semitism and religious based misogyny with your milqetoast jazz-lite, I suppose it is.

JudasLChrist said:

funksterr said:

TRC, is a great Prince album

If you like anti-semitism and religious based misogyny with your milqetoast jazz-lite, I suppose it is.

Agreed. But I meant it was great in that it's a true reflection of what's bouncing around in Prince's mind and personality. I don't like the record, but I respect it as a reflection of it's creator. That's why I said "great Prince album, in a sense".

Bull! Prince's biggest selling album is Purple Rain,which was billed as a 'Prince and The Revolution' album.As far as the mainstream is concerned,that's the only Prince album that matters.Many people remember the Revolution and the role they played in the movie and on the album.Stop acting like 'nostalgia' is a bad word.Prince might live only in the "the now" but that doesn't mean everyone else on the planet does.

Noodled24 said:

Purple Rain isn't the rocky horror picture show. Nobody outside of Prince.org knows who the revolution is.

Strive said:

I don't get why they'd have to turn back the clock to do a reunion. Sly & The Family Stone reunited at the Grammys and they weren't decked out in 1960s garb from their heyday.

I'd love to see a Grammy reunion followed by a big $$$ tour with a setlist of hits, Roadhouse Garden material and Prince staples. If they could pull it together long enough to create some new material, I'd love a setlist of completely new stuff.

Exactly.A "reunion" doesn't mean you throw on the same outfits you wore in 1984 and attempt to do the same dance moves The longtime fans have gotten older,too.We know that,as you age,you can't dance like you did 30 years ago,lol.We understand that.

Noodled24 said:

Why reunite with an old band to watch them do something they did miles better 30 years ago? Put on a DVD if you're feeling nostalgic and watch them at their peak rather than a watered down version of.

Prince was at his peak in the 80s.Does that mean you wouldn't go see him in concert now?

paulludvig said:

Yup. Why reunite to do a lesser version of what you did 30 years ago? Doesn't make sense.

You're looking at it the wrong way.When Bruce Springsteen performs with the E Street Band,do his fans complain that he's onstage with old people who were at their peak 30 years ago? I don't think so.Just because musicians get older,doesn't mean that they can't perform a good show.And Prince ain't exactly a spring chicken,either

Well said Soul...Not a big Springsteen fan but I respect him and his music. His band is still tight...I remember when he changed his band (breifly) back in the mid nineties and his fans weren't having it. The E Street band can still bring it.

SoulAlive said:

Bull! Prince's biggest selling album is Purple Rain,which was billed as a 'Prince and The Revolution' album.As far as the mainstream is concerned,that's the only Prince album that matters.Many people remember the Revolution and the role they played in the movie and on the album.Stop acting like 'nostalgia' is a bad word.Prince might live only in the "the now" but that doesn't mean everyone else on the planet does.

Noodled24 said:

Purple Rain isn't the rocky horror picture show. Nobody outside of Prince.org knows who the revolution is.

Prince fans know who they are because we've followed his career and know he's had different bands and different incarnations of bands...

Purple Rain is his biggest album yep. But nobody refers to Purple Rain as being by "Prince and the Revolution". Example - go to the thread about the Waterboys cover of Purple Rain, click through to the BBC site and you'll see "The Waterboys play Prince's classic track, and blow the studio away!"

I've never said nostalgia was a bad word. Prince still plays Purple Rain at practically every gig. I just don't really see some fans desperation to see him play live with a group of people he's not even that friendly with anymore.

SoulAlive said:

Noodled24 said:

Why reunite with an old band to watch them do something they did miles better 30 years ago? Put on a DVD if you're feeling nostalgic and watch them at their peak rather than a watered down version of.

Prince was at his peak in the 80s.Does that mean you wouldn't go see him in concert now?

That depends how you define peak. Prince as a guitarist has never been better. He's 30 years more practiced. He's playing more rock oriented shows. He's still said to be one of if not THE best live performer. I like his current sound.

Noodled24 said:

SoulAlive said:

Bull! Prince's biggest selling album is Purple Rain,which was billed as a 'Prince and The Revolution' album.As far as the mainstream is concerned,that's the only Prince album that matters.Many people remember the Revolution and the role they played in the movie and on the album.Stop acting like 'nostalgia' is a bad word.Prince might live only in the "the now" but that doesn't mean everyone else on the planet does.

Prince fans know who they are because we've followed his career and know he's had different bands and different incarnations of bands...

Purple Rain is his biggest album yep. But nobody refers to Purple Rain as being by "Prince and the Revolution". Example - go to the thread about the Waterboys cover of Purple Rain, click through to the BBC site and you'll see "The Waterboys play Prince's classic track, and blow the studio away!"

I've never said nostalgia was a bad word. Prince still plays Purple Rain at practically every gig. I just don't really see some fans desperation to see him play live with a group of people he's not even that friendly with anymore.

I agree.

I also defy anybody to call up twenty people right this minute and ask them to name the members of The Revolution off the top of their heads like we can.

Not gonna happen.

People on the org forget that there are only a few dozen die hards that regularly post here and our POV is not holy writ.

To the person who mentioned The Roots, they don't count since they are professional musicians and would be more inclined to be familiar with others in their profession anyway.

The guys in The Roots could probably name musicians that I never heard of.

I say the average person on the street ONLY knows Prince from The Revolution years and people here on the org have got it twisted. 9 out of 10 Prince projects don't exist in the public consciousness except the Purple Rain era which was Prince and The Revolution. When Prince tried to distinguish his sound from those that followed him after Purple Rain blew up, he also distanced himself from his own fanbase. He was popular on the strength of the Minneapolis Sound and when he stopped making it most of his fanbase, became frustrated and stopped paying attention. When they did happen to buy a new Prince record, they just perceived it as garbage because it didn't have the sound they loved Prince for. So all those other bands and projects aren't remembered with fondness outside of the hardcore fanbase. To the general public Prince, W&L, The Revolution, The Time, A6/V6 is where it's at.

funksterr said:

I say the average person on the street ONLY knows Prince from The Revolution years and people here on the org have got it twisted. 9 out of 10 Prince projects don't exist in the public consciousness except the Purple Rain era which was Prince and The Revolution. When Prince tried to distinguish his sound from those that followed him after Purple Rain blew up, he also distanced himself from his own fanbase. He was popular on the strength of the Minneapolis Sound and when he stopped making it most of his fanbase, became frustrated and stopped paying attention. When they did happen to buy a new Prince record, they just perceived it as garbage because it didn't have the sound they loved Prince for. So all those other bands and projects aren't remembered with fondness outside of the hardcore fanbase. To the general public Prince, W&L, The Revolution, The Time, A6/V6 is where it's at.

[KirstyAlly] That is not the truth and you know it [/KirstyAlly]

Why is it that when "Purple Rain" is written about. Rarely if ever are "The Revolution" mentioned? Despite what it says on the cover, people only remember "Prince".

Search OfficialCharts.com and you'll see a "Prince" section and you'll see a "Prince and the NPG" section. Again no mention of "The Revolution"

He's had more top 10 singles and albums without the Revolution than he's had with them. If the public "know" Prince for anything, it's "The Most Besutiful Girl In The World". Because that was the last big hit. The one's who know him from Purple Rain were likely there the first time and are 40 years plus.

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Noodled24 said:

[KirstyAlly] That is not the truth and you know it [/KirstyAlly]

Why is it that when "Purple Rain" is written about. Rarely if ever are "The Revolution" mentioned? Despite what it says on the cover, people only remember "Prince".

Search OfficialCharts.com and you'll see a "Prince" section and you'll see a "Prince and the NPG" section. Again no mention of "The Revolution"

He's had more top 10 singles and albums without the Revolution than he's had with them. If the public "know" Prince for anything, it's "The Most Besutiful Girl In The World". Because that was the last big hit. The one's who know him from Purple Rain were likely there the first time and are 40 years plus.

[Edited 2/7/15 11:59am]

Errr.... what????? I'm sure you realize that makes no sense at all, right? Nobody says "Prince? The guy from The Most Beautiful Girl In The World, right? Oh yeah I remember him!" It's Purple Rain. And that's the truth and you know it.

As far as those bought and paid for magazine articles and reviews that are part of the promotion machine for whatever project Prince has going on at that moment not mentioning The Revolution much, eh, so what? A magazine writer or newspaper reviewer, is part of the system and you can't rely on them to tell anything like it is.

As for OfficialCharts, not crediting things properly, that shows how much of a shoddy website they are. Don't rely on them either.

funksterr said:

I say the average person on the street ONLY knows Prince from The Revolution years and people here on the org have got it twisted. 9 out of 10 Prince projects don't exist in the public consciousness except the Purple Rain era which was Prince and The Revolution. When Prince tried to distinguish his sound from those that followed him after Purple Rain blew up, he also distanced himself from his own fanbase. He was popular on the strength of the Minneapolis Sound and when he stopped making it most of his fanbase, became frustrated and stopped paying attention. When they did happen to buy a new Prince record, they just perceived it as garbage because it didn't have the sound they loved Prince for. So all those other bands and projects aren't remembered with fondness outside of the hardcore fanbase. To the general public Prince, W&L, The Revolution, The Time, A6/V6 is where it's at.

To average person on the street there's only Prince, not W&L, The Revolution, The Time, A6/V6.

funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

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Wow - long post!

Just a couple of points -

W&L didn't leave, they were fired.

Playing with Hayes, Bland and and T in 2009 was different because he had continued to work with them on and off the entire time.

He's not musically smart enough to pull off the style on TRC? He's made plenty of music that is more clever than that.

I believe I read somehwere that the proper order of events were that they quit, returned, and were later fired.

Prince worked with W&L on and off too. i still don't know why a Revolution reunion is in some way harming Prince.

TRC, is a great Prince album, in a sense, but it is not good jazz, per se. It's an entertaining jazz flavored pop album. Any style of music that calls for an advanced understanding of music theory is beyond Prince's ability to execute at a high level ("Purple and Gold", anyone?). I mean we have the evidence, by this point that he is not an advanced composer and arranger. Yes he is a good composer and arranger. Yes he is also clever, creative, imaginative, etc. He's not writing any symphonies, though, or arranging any old school pop standards. That's a different skillset and Prince rarely needs it.

A reunion with his backing band from over 30 years ago would not have the impact of a truly iconic ensemble act like Earth Wind and Fire, Van Halen, or even The Time. Prince would be positioning himself as a nostalgia act and any Prince fan knows that he resists that. Unless the group is truly iconic, a reunion doesn't carry that much interest to the general public. No one remembers Purple Rain as Prince and the Revolution; they remember it as PRINCE. What was true than is true today - Prince really doesnt need the Revolution. Besides, have you seen Lisa and Wendy lately? They look like 2 old burned out hippy white chicks. THey will age Prince up just be standing next to him onstage.

paulludvig said:

funksterr said:

I say the average person on the street ONLY knows Prince from The Revolution years and people here on the org have got it twisted. 9 out of 10 Prince projects don't exist in the public consciousness except the Purple Rain era which was Prince and The Revolution. When Prince tried to distinguish his sound from those that followed him after Purple Rain blew up, he also distanced himself from his own fanbase. He was popular on the strength of the Minneapolis Sound and when he stopped making it most of his fanbase, became frustrated and stopped paying attention. When they did happen to buy a new Prince record, they just perceived it as garbage because it didn't have the sound they loved Prince for. So all those other bands and projects aren't remembered with fondness outside of the hardcore fanbase. To the general public Prince, W&L, The Revolution, The Time, A6/V6 is where it's at.

To average person on the street there's only Prince, not W&L, The Revolution, The Time, A6/V6.

You are right. The Time tour relentlessly. People come to their shows because they know Morris Day is actually Prince is disguise. That's Prince in Jay and Silent Bob, not Morris Day.

JoshuaWho said:

Prince would be positioning himself as a nostalgia act..

Hahaha what a ridiculous comment.

Whether Prince OR you realises it or not - he's been doing that since 2004.

funksterr said:

paulludvig said:

/\

Wow - long post!

Just a couple of points -

W&L didn't leave, they were fired.

Playing with Hayes, Bland and and T in 2009 was different because he had continued to work with them on and off the entire time.

He's not musically smart enough to pull off the style on TRC? He's made plenty of music that is more clever than that.

I believe I read somehwere that the proper order of events were that they quit, returned, and were later fired.

Prince worked with W&L on and off too. i still don't know why a Revolution reunion is in some way harming Prince.

TRC, is a great Prince album, in a sense, but it is not good jazz, per se. It's an entertaining jazz flavored pop album. Any style of music that calls for an advanced understanding of music theory is beyond Prince's ability to execute at a high level ("Purple and Gold", anyone?). I mean we have the evidence, by this point that he is not an advanced composer and arranger. Yes he is a good composer and arranger. Yes he is also clever, creative, imaginative, etc. He's not writing any symphonies, though, or arranging any old school pop standards. That's a different skillset and Prince rarely needs it.

He did write a symphony! It's called Kamasutra!!!!!!!!!! What do you mean advanced composer and arranger? He's been composing and arranging for almost 40 years? A lot of you guys on this website are really jealous of Prince or something!

JoshuaWho said:

funksterr said:

I believe I read somehwere that the proper order of events were that they quit, returned, and were later fired.

Prince worked with W&L on and off too. i still don't know why a Revolution reunion is in some way harming Prince.

TRC, is a great Prince album, in a sense, but it is not good jazz, per se. It's an entertaining jazz flavored pop album. Any style of music that calls for an advanced understanding of music theory is beyond Prince's ability to execute at a high level ("Purple and Gold", anyone?). I mean we have the evidence, by this point that he is not an advanced composer and arranger. Yes he is a good composer and arranger. Yes he is also clever, creative, imaginative, etc. He's not writing any symphonies, though, or arranging any old school pop standards. That's a different skillset and Prince rarely needs it.

A reunion with his backing band from over 30 years ago would not have the impact of a truly iconic ensemble act like Earth Wind and Fire, Van Halen, or even The Time. Prince would be positioning himself as a nostalgia act and any Prince fan knows that he resists that. Unless the group is truly iconic, a reunion doesn't carry that much interest to the general public. No one remembers Purple Rain as Prince and the Revolution; they remember it as PRINCE. What was true than is true today - Prince really doesnt need the Revolution. Besides, have you seen Lisa and Wendy lately? They look like 2 old burned out hippy white chicks. THey will age Prince up just be standing next to him onstage.

You guys are pure comedy. Now you are just making things up. Prince and The Revolution is an iconic band name. It's on the Purple Rain album, which AUTOMATICALY makes it iconic along with the album. One of the Prince bios I read said WB warned Prince not to break up the group at the time because they were popular among the fans.

As for Prince and 3EG not turning into a NOSTALGIA act: 24 out of the 33 songs he played at his most recent show are from 1986 or earlier (The Revolution era), he literally asked the audience "DO YOU REMEMBER THE 80'S???", there wasn't a single 90's hit played even though he has a few that are fairly safe. Explain your Nostalgia theory, in light of those facts....

Oh abd have you seen PRINCE lately??? And you probably haven't because he generally uses wigs, sunglasses, and longshots these days, but he looks as much like an old burned out hippy as anybody...

funksterr said:

Noodled24 said:

[KirstyAlly] That is not the truth and you know it [/KirstyAlly]

Why is it that when "Purple Rain" is written about. Rarely if ever are "The Revolution" mentioned? Despite what it says on the cover, people only remember "Prince".

Search OfficialCharts.com and you'll see a "Prince" section and you'll see a "Prince and the NPG" section. Again no mention of "The Revolution"

He's had more top 10 singles and albums without the Revolution than he's had with them. If the public "know" Prince for anything, it's "The Most Besutiful Girl In The World". Because that was the last big hit. The one's who know him from Purple Rain were likely there the first time and are 40 years plus.

[Edited 2/7/15 11:59am]

Errr.... what????? I'm sure you realize that makes no sense at all, right? Nobody says "Prince? The guy from The Most Beautiful Girl In The World, right? Oh yeah I remember him!" It's Purple Rain. And that's the truth and you know it.

Not "from" TMBGITW, but they know that was his song.

As far as those bought and paid for magazine articles and reviews that are part of the promotion machine for whatever project Prince has going on at that moment not mentioning The Revolution much, eh, so what? A magazine writer or newspaper reviewer, is part of the system and you can't rely on them to tell anything like it is.

Exactly what I'm saying. "The Revolution" aren't known to anyone outside of fans. The band name is on the CD and on the DVD... but nobody ever mentions them.

As for OfficialCharts, not crediting things properly, that shows how much of a shoddy website they are. Don't rely on them either.

No. That's how Prince's music is catagorised. There is a "Prince" catagory and a "Prince & The NPG" catagory. It's the same in every record store. Thats why the Official UK Charts site has no catagory for "P & The Revolution"

Noodled24 said:

As for OfficialCharts, not crediting things properly, that shows how much of a shoddy website they are. Don't rely on them either.

No. That's how Prince's music is catagorised. There is a "Prince" catagory and a "Prince & The NPG" catagory. It's the same in every record store. Thats why the Official UK Charts site has no catagory for "P & The Revolution"

It's incorrect, no matter who is doing it. I heard something long ago about Prince trying to credit the NPG in some way and remove The Revolution credit in the same thing. I don't recall the details clearly, but maybe that is what you are seeing. Either way, in the US, Prince fans who lived through the PR era remember The Revolution.

The Revolution are definitely co-writers on those albums, as well as some other things that came out after Prince fired them. The same is also true of Morris Day, Dez Dickerson and Andre Cymone. The album may say Prince, and the credits are often murky or flat out wrong, but 9/10 times those bandmembers were contributing something to the songs.

Prince may have the WB contract that gives him all the credit, control, money and authority, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the records by himself.

funksterr said:

Noodled24 said:

It's incorrect, no matter who is doing it. I heard something long ago about Prince trying to credit the NPG in some way and remove The Revolution credit in the same thing. I don't recall the details clearly, but maybe that is what you are seeing. Either way, in the US, Prince fans who lived through the PR era remember The Revolution.

The Revolution are definitely co-writers on those albums, as well as some other things that came out after Prince fired them. The same is also true of Morris Day, Dez Dickerson and Andre Cymone. The album may say Prince, and the credits are often murky or flat out wrong, but 9/10 times those bandmembers were contributing something to the songs.

Prince may have the WB contract that gives him all the credit, control, money and authority, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the records by himself.

More like 1/10

funksterr said:

Noodled24 said:

It's incorrect, no matter who is doing it. I heard something long ago about Prince trying to credit the NPG in some way and remove The Revolution credit in the same thing. I don't recall the details clearly, but maybe that is what you are seeing. Either way, in the US, Prince fans who lived through the PR era remember The Revolution.

The Revolution are definitely co-writers on those albums, as well as some other things that came out after Prince fired them. The same is also true of Morris Day, Dez Dickerson and Andre Cymone. The album may say Prince, and the credits are often murky or flat out wrong, but 9/10 times those bandmembers were contributing something to the songs.

Prince may have the WB contract that gives him all the credit, control, money and authority, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the records by himself.

Well, I agree with all that.

I'm not trying to take away from what The Revolution brought as a band. They helped define his sound in the 80s. But outside of the Prince fandom nobody knows who they are.

They don't know who the NPG are either, Or 3EG. Prince backing bands only really matter to fans.

Wendy & Lisa have had some success selling their albums, but mainly to Prince fans. The Gold Era NPG released an album also? But to little success.

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funksterr said:

It's incorrect, no matter who is doing it. I heard something long ago about Prince trying to credit the NPG in some way and remove The Revolution credit in the same thing. I don't recall the details clearly, but maybe that is what you are seeing. Either way, in the US, Prince fans who lived through the PR era remember The Revolution.

The Revolution are definitely co-writers on those albums, as well as some other things that came out after Prince fired them. The same is also true of Morris Day, Dez Dickerson and Andre Cymone. The album may say Prince, and the credits are often murky or flat out wrong, but 9/10 times those bandmembers were contributing something to the songs.

Prince may have the WB contract that gives him all the credit, control, money and authority, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the records by himself.

You are wrong again and Noodled is right.

The average person does not know the names of Prince's band members. You're trying to avoid admitting that by saying they remember the name "Revolution"....that's not the same thing and you know it. You're trying to get around that fact.

Why won't you do what I suggested and prove it to yourself? Call up twenty random people on your contacts list and ask them to name the Revolution members off the top of their heads....I dare ya.

Prince is, was and always will be a solo act with a backing band. The Revolution era was cool for what it was but they are not the be all and end all of music history.

Secondly, you really shouldn't spread unfounded rumors based on heresay with no source to back it up about Prince allegedly trying to credit NPG with Revolution work? That's stooping pretty low.

Noodled24 said:

funksterr said:

It's incorrect, no matter who is doing it. I heard something long ago about Prince trying to credit the NPG in some way and remove The Revolution credit in the same thing. I don't recall the details clearly, but maybe that is what you are seeing. Either way, in the US, Prince fans who lived through the PR era remember The Revolution.

The Revolution are definitely co-writers on those albums, as well as some other things that came out after Prince fired them. The same is also true of Morris Day, Dez Dickerson and Andre Cymone. The album may say Prince, and the credits are often murky or flat out wrong, but 9/10 times those bandmembers were contributing something to the songs.

Prince may have the WB contract that gives him all the credit, control, money and authority, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the records by himself.

Well, I agree with all that.

I'm not trying to take away from what The Revolution brought as a band. They helped define his sound in the 80s. But outside of the Prince fandom nobody knows who they are.

They don't know who the NPG are either, Or 3EG. Prince backing bands only really matter to fans.

Wendy & Lisa have had some success selling their albums, but mainly to Prince fans. The Gold Era NPG released an album also? But to little success.

[Edited 2/8/15 12:23pm]

Exactly.

Furthermore, it is well known that the people who worked with Prince made contributions...it's not news. Funksterr seems to think that their input is somehow different and over and above what groups of musicians have been doing since forever.

Too much exaggerating.

babynoz said:

funksterr said:

It's incorrect, no matter who is doing it. I heard something long ago about Prince trying to credit the NPG in some way and remove The Revolution credit in the same thing. I don't recall the details clearly, but maybe that is what you are seeing. Either way, in the US, Prince fans who lived through the PR era remember The Revolution.

The Revolution are definitely co-writers on those albums, as well as some other things that came out after Prince fired them. The same is also true of Morris Day, Dez Dickerson and Andre Cymone. The album may say Prince, and the credits are often murky or flat out wrong, but 9/10 times those bandmembers were contributing something to the songs.

Prince may have the WB contract that gives him all the credit, control, money and authority, but at the end of the day, he didn't make the records by himself.

You are wrong again and Noodled is right.

The average person does not know the names of Prince's band members. You're trying to avoid admitting that by saying they remember the name "Revolution"....that's not the same thing and you know it. You're trying to get around that fact.

Why won't you do what I suggested and prove it to yourself? Call up twenty random people on your contacts list and ask them to name the Revolution members off the top of their heads....I dare ya.

Prince is, was and always will be a solo act with a backing band. The Revolution era was cool for what it was but they are not the be all and end all of music history.

Secondly, you really shouldn't spread unfounded rumors based on heresay with no source to back it up about Prince allegedly trying to credit NPG with Revolution work? That's stooping pretty low.

Nah.. Wendy and Lisa are known to average Prince fans that lived through the Purple Rain era. Just like Sheila E., Vanity, Appolonia, and Morris Day. Bobby Z, Brown Mark and Matt Fink are not as known. Same with Brenda and Susan, Jellybean, Monte, The Family, etc. Wendy and Lisa were a tier above some of the other bandmembers in terms of fan recognition. It's a fact referrenced in a number of Prince bios, Uptown Mag, etc.

As for the rest of what you said... I don't know what you want. I remeber reading something, on one of the fan boards about 8-10 years ago (likely Housequake), where a fan was complaining about Prince, or somebody, removing The Revolution name from something. The gist of that thread was that Prince was promoting The NPG as if it was the only band he'd ever had, and diminishing The Revolution in the process. People were likening the situation to George Lucas' Star Wars Special Editions makeovers and attempting to change the history of art, etc. I remember that I perceived, whatever problem they were talking about, as a non-US issue, and moved on. I don't know if that's the same thing Noodled24 mentioned or not, and I said so.... moving on.

I think your REAL problem is that I said Prince had co-writers. That's what set you off: THE FACCCTTS. THE TRUUUUTTHH. Other human hands and minds affected those Prince records too, oooohh! You can't handle the thought of Prince not doing EVERYTHING by himself.

funksterr said:

babynoz said:

You are wrong again and Noodled is right.

The average person does not know the names of Prince's band members. You're trying to avoid admitting that by saying they remember the name "Revolution"....that's not the same thing and you know it. You're trying to get around that fact.

Why won't you do what I suggested and prove it to yourself? Call up twenty random people on your contacts list and ask them to name the Revolution members off the top of their heads....I dare ya.

Prince is, was and always will be a solo act with a backing band. The Revolution era was cool for what it was but they are not the be all and end all of music history.

Secondly, you really shouldn't spread unfounded rumors based on heresay with no source to back it up about Prince allegedly trying to credit NPG with Revolution work? That's stooping pretty low.

Nah.. Wendy and Lisa are known to average Prince fans that lived through the Purple Rain era. Just like Sheila E., Vanity, Appolonia, and Morris Day. Bobby Z, Brown Mark and Matt Fink are not as known. Same with Brenda and Susan, Jellybean, Monte, The Family, etc. Wendy and Lisa were a tier above some of the other bandmembers in terms of fan recognition. It's a fact referrenced in a number of Prince bios, Uptown Mag, etc.

As for the rest of what you said... I don't know what you want. I remeber reading something, on one of the fan boards about 8-10 years ago (likely Housequake), where a fan was complaining about Prince, or somebody, removing The Revolution name from something. The gist of that thread was that Prince was promoting The NPG as if it was the only band he'd ever had, and diminishing The Revolution in the process. People were likening the situation to George Lucas' Star Wars Special Editions makeovers and attempting to change the history of art, etc. I remember that I perceived, whatever problem they were talking about, as a non-US issue, and moved on. I don't know if that's the same thing Noodled24 mentioned or not, and I said so.... moving on.

I think your REAL problem is that I said Prince had co-writers. That's what set you off: THE FACCCTTS. THE TRUUUUTTHH. Other human hands and minds affected those Prince records too, oooohh! You can't handle the thought of Prince not doing EVERYTHING by himself.

So have you made those calls yet?

babynoz said:

So have you made those calls yet?

Absolutely. I always do whatever people on the internet tell me to do.

funksterr said:

babynoz said:

So have you made those calls yet?

Absolutely. I always do whatever people on the internet tell me to do.

Nah, more like what the voices in your head tell you.

babynoz said:

funksterr said:

Absolutely. I always do whatever people on the internet tell me to do.

Nah, more like what the voices in your head tell you.

Hold up... Who told you about the voices in my head?