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Reply #90 posted 01/12/15 5:03am

jaawwnn

Oh, it's THIS version of the song. neutral

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Reply #91 posted 01/12/15 6:51am

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You folks are out of your mind if you think this is from the PR remaster, and just as out of your minds to think that if the PR remaster is ever released, that it would have this extended version on it. A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes. Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses. WB is in it to make money, not to please a waning hardcore fanbase.

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Reply #92 posted 01/12/15 7:16am

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BartVanHemelen said:

databank said:

IDK what, in WB's eyes, is the best project in terms of optimal sales but usually too many versions of a single song is something that is avoided for it's really of interest to the hardcore base of the hardcore base if u see what I mean.

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That's why record companies do different versions: one "super" set for the hardcore fans, one "normal" set for regular fans.

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Alternatively, have you never seen this? Or this? Or this? Or this? It is perfectly possible to release box sets that are "insane"; and it is happening for far smaller acts than Prince.


I would LOVE to see Prince's back catalog get the same treatment as Miles Davis'. We all would for that matter....

Too bad it won't happen. sad

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Reply #93 posted 01/12/15 7:44am

luvsexy4all

djThunderfunk said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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That's why record companies do different versions: one "super" set for the hardcore fans, one "normal" set for regular fans.

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Alternatively, have you never seen this? Or this? Or this? Or this? It is perfectly possible to release box sets that are "insane"; and it is happening for far smaller acts than Prince.


I would LOVE to see Prince's back catalog get the same treatment as Miles Davis'. We all would for that matter....

Too bad it won't happen. sad

it will when hes ...

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Reply #94 posted 01/12/15 7:47am

novabrkr

Why are so many people here making such definitive statements on what the PR remaster release will be like?

The bottom line is that you can't fucking know for sure what's going to be on it.

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Reply #95 posted 01/12/15 8:30am

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novabrkr said:

The bottom line is that you can't fucking know for sure what's going to be on it.

It won't be 5-disc or larger.

It has been discussed before.

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Reply #96 posted 01/12/15 8:32am

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novabrkr said:

Why are so many people here making such definitive statements on what the PR remaster release will be like?

The bottom line is that you can't fucking know for sure what's going to be on it.

A little louder for the people in the front.

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Reply #97 posted 01/12/15 8:38am

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leadline said:

A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes.

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Nobody will give a fuck about that.

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Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses.

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Nonsense. No bonus = guaranteed flop. This is their ONE CHANCE to get this right, because Prince has already shown that he shits on his own output three weeks after its released. YouTube videos that get pulled hours after upload, Lotuflow3r was abandoned mere weeks after go-live because it was a massive flop,... Hell, dude couldn't even be arsed to visit GMA to launch AOA and PleElec and has done next to nothing to promote the albums. Look at Prince's non-WB output: what is still available, and how much isn't?

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Have you ACTUALLY looked at reissued records recently (and "recently" = "in the last 15 years")? Ever look at the "Expanded Editions" of so many classic albums, which sometimes include AN ALTERNATE MIX OF THE ENTIRE ALBUM (e.g. the original Nile Rodgers mix of a Diana Ross album) -- talk about "compromise the spirit of the original album". Hell, the recent deluxe edition of Nirvana's In Utero has a new mix that was specifically done for it. The ONLY people who care about such release DEMAND extras. Go to http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/ and notice how announcements of deluxe editions often focus on what is NOT included, e.g. missing remixes, 7" edits, etc. precisely because the people who are willing to part with good money for such things are sick of "incomplete" releases because these show the lack of care.

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PR Deluxe DESERVES to be presented in an amazing package that includes the original gig where several songs of PR were recorded, that includes the Birthday gig, that includes "full-length" versions of tracks, that includes outtakes, that includes an in-depth documentary, that includes in-depth liner notes, etc. Ditto for Prince's other classic 1980s releases.

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Hell, go look at the four links in my previous post. Prince releases DESERVE that treatment.

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Reply #98 posted 01/12/15 9:41am

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bluegangsta said:

If this is from a deluxe edition of Purple Rain, god help us for what the rest of the set sounds like and where it's sourced from.

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Yikes...............that hurts my ears.

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Reply #99 posted 01/12/15 1:07pm

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I threw it into Audacity and got it less piercing and horrible, after about half an hour of trial and error.

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Reply #100 posted 01/12/15 3:39pm

jdcxc

BartVanHemelen said:



leadline said:


A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes.



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Nobody will give a fuck about that.


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Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses.



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Nonsense. No bonus = guaranteed flop. This is their ONE CHANCE to get this right, because Prince has already shown that he shits on his own output three weeks after its released. YouTube videos that get pulled hours after upload, Lotuflow3r was abandoned mere weeks after go-live because it was a massive flop,... Hell, dude couldn't even be arsed to visit GMA to launch AOA and PleElec and has done next to nothing to promote the albums. Look at Prince's non-WB output: what is still available, and how much isn't?


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Have you ACTUALLY looked at reissued records recently (and "recently" = "in the last 15 years")? Ever look at the "Expanded Editions" of so many classic albums, which sometimes include AN ALTERNATE MIX OF THE ENTIRE ALBUM (e.g. the original Nile Rodgers mix of a Diana Ross album) -- talk about "compromise the spirit of the original album". Hell, the recent deluxe edition of Nirvana's In Utero has a new mix that was specifically done for it. The ONLY people who care about such release DEMAND extras. Go to http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/ and notice how announcements of deluxe editions often focus on what is NOT included, e.g. missing remixes, 7" edits, etc. precisely because the people who are willing to part with good money for such things are sick of "incomplete" releases because these show the lack of care.


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PR Deluxe DESERVES to be presented in an amazing package that includes the original gig where several songs of PR were recorded, that includes the Birthday gig, that includes "full-length" versions of tracks, that includes outtakes, that includes an in-depth documentary, that includes in-depth liner notes, etc. Ditto for Prince's other classic 1980s releases.


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Hell, go look at the four links in my previous post. Prince releases DESERVE that treatment.



I agree...why do it if you're not gonna do it right.
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Reply #101 posted 01/12/15 8:38pm

JudasLChrist

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Do we have concensus that this is NOT legitimately sourced. I don't think it is, at all. This has been circulating for a long time as far as I can tell.

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Reply #102 posted 01/12/15 10:00pm

DieselsDen

todesm said:

Looks like remastered PR is on its way ?

I'm sorry...can someone e-mail me as to where to look for this item? Thank you!

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Reply #103 posted 01/12/15 11:34pm

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JudasLChrist said:

Do we have concensus that this is NOT legitimately sourced. I don't think it is, at all. This has been circulating for a long time as far as I can tell.

We do: it's just a better sourced version of what was already circulating, the fact that it has the same tape distortion at the same place shows that the original sourcetape is the same nod

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Reply #104 posted 01/13/15 12:34am

jstar69

Not as great as I was hoping😫😫
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Reply #105 posted 01/13/15 12:49am

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where is it?

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Reply #106 posted 01/13/15 1:53am

SoulAlive

leadline said:

You folks are out of your mind if you think this is from the PR remaster, and just as out of your minds to think that if the PR remaster is ever released, that it would have this extended version on it. A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes. Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses. WB is in it to make money, not to please a waning hardcore fanbase.

How can you possibly know this stuff? hmmm Are you a Warner Bros. insider? I seriously doubt that the remaster is gonna contain just the nine songs that appeared on the original album.Fans aren't gonna rush out to spend their money on that.There would be no point in releasing a simple remaster with no bonus tracks.

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Reply #107 posted 01/13/15 8:34am

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I'm glad I read the entire thread before I went looking for this. lol

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Reply #108 posted 01/13/15 11:31am

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SoulAlive said:

leadline said:

You folks are out of your mind if you think this is from the PR remaster, and just as out of your minds to think that if the PR remaster is ever released, that it would have this extended version on it. A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes. Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses. WB is in it to make money, not to please a waning hardcore fanbase.

How can you possibly know this stuff? hmmm Are you a Warner Bros. insider? I seriously doubt that the remaster is gonna contain just the nine songs that appeared on the original album.Fans aren't gonna rush out to spend their money on that.There would be no point in releasing a simple remaster with no bonus tracks.

Common sense for the most part. Remasters get released all the time with updated sound, which is the norm, and why it's called a "remaster", not only that, Prince mentioned in an interview that it is simply that, updated sound. As far as fans not rushing out to buy it, AOE and PE are a prime examples, sales wise, of why it won't matter what is on the PR remaster. Fans will buy it regardless, sure a few here will take a stand and say they wont, but it is the 'casual fan base' that is being marketed to with this, and that is where the money is, not the hardcore fans. The hardcore fans bought AOE and PE, those sales were anemic, PR remaster would be no different, conversly, casual fans could care less about AOE or PE, but when it comes to Purple Rain, those same casual fans are the group that will make or break sales on the album. But really the point is moot since this will likely not see the light day anytime soon, I would not be surprised if we don't hear any more of this until the Purple Rain 40th anniversary.

[Edited 1/13/15 11:31am]

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Reply #109 posted 01/13/15 12:39pm

jstar69

Prince has said a lot of bs in interviews - we all know that !!!!

leadline said:



SoulAlive said:




leadline said:


You folks are out of your mind if you think this is from the PR remaster, and just as out of your minds to think that if the PR remaster is ever released, that it would have this extended version on it. A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes. Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses. WB is in it to make money, not to please a waning hardcore fanbase.





How can you possibly know this stuff? hmmm Are you a Warner Bros. insider? I seriously doubt that the remaster is gonna contain just the nine songs that appeared on the original album.Fans aren't gonna rush out to spend their money on that.There would be no point in releasing a simple remaster with no bonus tracks.




Common sense for the most part. Remasters get released all the time with updated sound, which is the norm, and why it's called a "remaster", not only that, Prince mentioned in an interview that it is simply that, updated sound. As far as fans not rushing out to buy it, AOE and PE are a prime examples, sales wise, of why it won't matter what is on the PR remaster. Fans will buy it regardless, sure a few here will take a stand and say they wont, but it is the 'casual fan base' that is being marketed to with this, and that is where the money is, not the hardcore fans. The hardcore fans bought AOE and PE, those sales were anemic, PR remaster would be no different, conversly, casual fans could care less about AOE or PE, but when it comes to Purple Rain, those same casual fans are the group that will make or break sales on the album. But really the point is moot since this will likely not see the light day anytime soon, I would not be surprised if we don't hear any more of this until the Purple Rain 40th anniversary.

[Edited 1/13/15 11:31am]

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Reply #110 posted 01/13/15 1:01pm

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jstar69 said:

Prince has said a lot of bs in interviews - we all know that !!!! leadline said:

Common sense for the most part. Remasters get released all the time with updated sound, which is the norm, and why it's called a "remaster", not only that, Prince mentioned in an interview that it is simply that, updated sound. As far as fans not rushing out to buy it, AOE and PE are a prime examples, sales wise, of why it won't matter what is on the PR remaster. Fans will buy it regardless, sure a few here will take a stand and say they wont, but it is the 'casual fan base' that is being marketed to with this, and that is where the money is, not the hardcore fans. The hardcore fans bought AOE and PE, those sales were anemic, PR remaster would be no different, conversly, casual fans could care less about AOE or PE, but when it comes to Purple Rain, those same casual fans are the group that will make or break sales on the album. But really the point is moot since this will likely not see the light day anytime soon, I would not be surprised if we don't hear any more of this until the Purple Rain 40th anniversary.

[Edited 1/13/15 11:31am]

He certaintly has, but it's usually overpromise and way underdeliver, the list is GIANT. He rarely, if ever, plays something down in an interview only to have it surprise us later. Would love examples of this if they exist.

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Reply #111 posted 01/13/15 1:55pm

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Would definitely like to hear this version!!!! biggrin

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Reply #112 posted 01/13/15 8:41pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

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PR Deluxe DESERVES to be presented in an amazing package that includes the original gig where several songs of PR were recorded, that includes the Birthday gig, that includes "full-length" versions of tracks, that includes outtakes, that includes an in-depth documentary, that includes in-depth liner notes, etc. Ditto for Prince's other classic 1980s releases.

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Hell, go look at the four links in my previous post. Prince releases DESERVE that treatment.

Sadly, most of us know that what we will get will be a massive failure. Way too much to go wrong. The old Prince and Warners couldn't get much right after 1985 in terms of promotion and marketing, as it got worse each year. Prince and 2014 Warners have been listening to Stevie Wonder's "You Haven't Done Nothin'" a lot, and that's basically exactly what they have collectively done...NOTHING.

We get two cds that clock in a total of 93 minutes, when we could have had 2 cds filled with all the downloads, some extra songs...hell...label those as bonus tracks to mark the original albums as intended. Or, just edit the 2 albums into one 70-79 minute cd...but nope. We get 2 short albums, we get the "Lovesex That's My Jam" Girl....

We get no tour, nothing.

So for a PR Remaster? Yes, all of our hopes are probably way way off the chart. Just getting the original album remastered at the correct sound levels would be at least something...

But we may get nothing, or our worst nightmare: The box set we all want with overcompressed brickwalled audio that is mastered like Plect Elect. Where on volume 1 it sounds louder than the original PR CD on volume 9.

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Reply #113 posted 01/14/15 3:06am

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stillwaiting said:

Prince and 2014 Warners have been listening to Stevie Wonder's "You Haven't Done Nothin'" a lot, and that's basically exactly what they have collectively done...NOTHING.

We get two cds that clock in a total of 93 minutes, when we could have had 2 cds filled with all the downloads, some extra songs...hell...label those as bonus tracks to mark the original albums as intended. Or, just edit the 2 albums into one 70-79 minute cd...but nope. We get 2 short albums, we get the "Lovesex That's My Jam" Girl....

We get no tour, nothing.

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All of that is PRINCE's doing, not Warners.

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Reply #114 posted 01/14/15 6:35pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

leadline said:

A PR remaster will be exactly what it says it is, a remaster, which doesn't mean extended versions or outakes.

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Nobody will give a fuck about that.

.

Think about it, extended versions and outakes would compromise the spirit of the original album, and cater to hardcore Prince fans only, not the masses.

.

Nonsense. No bonus = guaranteed flop. This is their ONE CHANCE to get this right, because Prince has already shown that he shits on his own output three weeks after its released. YouTube videos that get pulled hours after upload, Lotuflow3r was abandoned mere weeks after go-live because it was a massive flop,... Hell, dude couldn't even be arsed to visit GMA to launch AOA and PleElec and has done next to nothing to promote the albums. Look at Prince's non-WB output: what is still available, and how much isn't?

.
Have you ACTUALLY looked at reissued records recently (and "recently" = "in the last 15 years")? Ever look at the "Expanded Editions" of so many classic albums, which sometimes include AN ALTERNATE MIX OF THE ENTIRE ALBUM (e.g. the original Nile Rodgers mix of a Diana Ross album) -- talk about "compromise the spirit of the original album". Hell, the recent deluxe edition of Nirvana's In Utero has a new mix that was specifically done for it. The ONLY people who care about such release DEMAND extras. Go to http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/ and notice how announcements of deluxe editions often focus on what is NOT included, e.g. missing remixes, 7" edits, etc. precisely because the people who are willing to part with good money for such things are sick of "incomplete" releases because these show the lack of care.

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PR Deluxe DESERVES to be presented in an amazing package that includes the original gig where several songs of PR were recorded, that includes the Birthday gig, that includes "full-length" versions of tracks, that includes outtakes, that includes an in-depth documentary, that includes in-depth liner notes, etc. Ditto for Prince's other classic 1980s releases.

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Hell, go look at the four links in my previous post. Prince releases DESERVE that treatment.

Exactly Right.

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Reply #115 posted 01/14/15 7:01pm

Scarfo

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Looks like remastered PR is on its way ?

w-w-w-what was this? Hmmm..AT LAST some fucking great news!!! I gotta go to my bootleg spot! brb

ok I'm back..this is definitely a clearer version (I doubt it's an complete remaster, due to the sound distortions) . By far this is the clearest version of it! A remaster would clean up some of those distortions, when the volume gets too high. Also, I don't hear as much bass as the official 4 minute version. However, I won't say this is the best version. The best version of Computer Blue is the 11:59 "Corridor" version. Not complaining though. Now does this confirm the Remaster of Purple Rain is gonna be released? NO! It only means it was being worked on. This project may never see the light of day, due to Warner Bros dealing with (yet again) ...a difficult employee...

[Edited 1/14/15 19:59pm]

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Reply #116 posted 01/14/15 8:39pm

treehouse

BartVanHemelen said:

PR Deluxe DESERVES to be presented in an amazing package that includes the original gig where several songs of PR were recorded, that includes the Birthday gig, that includes "full-length" versions of tracks, that includes outtakes, that includes an in-depth documentary, that includes in-depth liner notes, etc. Ditto for Prince's other classic 1980s releases.

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Would be great, but I think you're setting yourself up for dissapointment with that one. Realistically, a sampling from all the sources you mentioned is more likely for bonus. Hope I'm wrong.

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Reply #117 posted 01/14/15 10:27pm

paulludvig

Scarfo said:

todesm said:

Looks like remastered PR is on its way ?

w-w-w-what was this? Hmmm..AT LAST some fucking great news!!! I gotta go to my bootleg spot! brb

ok I'm back..this is definitely a clearer version (I doubt it's an complete remaster, due to the sound distortions) . By far this is the clearest version of it! A remaster would clean up some of those distortions, when the volume gets too high. Also, I don't hear as much bass as the official 4 minute version. However, I won't say this is the best version. The best version of Computer Blue is the 11:59 "Corridor" version. Not complaining though. Now does this confirm the Remaster of Purple Rain is gonna be released? NO! It only means it was being worked on. This project may never see the light of day, due to Warner Bros dealing with (yet again) ...a difficult employee...

[Edited 1/14/15 19:59pm]

What's tge difference between this and the corridor version?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #118 posted 01/14/15 10:52pm

Scarfo

paulludvig said:

Scarfo said:

w-w-w-what was this? Hmmm..AT LAST some fucking great news!!! I gotta go to my bootleg spot! brb

ok I'm back..this is definitely a clearer version (I doubt it's an complete remaster, due to the sound distortions) . By far this is the clearest version of it! A remaster would clean up some of those distortions, when the volume gets too high. Also, I don't hear as much bass as the official 4 minute version. However, I won't say this is the best version. The best version of Computer Blue is the 11:59 "Corridor" version. Not complaining though. Now does this confirm the Remaster of Purple Rain is gonna be released? NO! It only means it was being worked on. This project may never see the light of day, due to Warner Bros dealing with (yet again) ...a difficult employee...

[Edited 1/14/15 19:59pm]

What's tge difference between this and the corridor version?

The corridor version is more polished. It sounds like the official version kind of polish, only longer. Prince also gives a corridor speech, and Prince does his screams in the background. It's by far the best version of the song! Remember the rehearsal scene in the movie (Purple Rain) when Prince walks in late, and Wendy and Lisa was a no show. The song they was rehearsing was the corridor version of Computer Blue. The song has also more clever musical breakdowns than the 14 minute version.

Here is the corridor speech lyrics:

He didn't like living alone
The house where he lived had many hallways
It was a long walk 2 his bedroom
Because 2 him each hallway represented an emotion
Every one vastly different from the next
One day while she was with him
He decided 2 name each one
She walked by his side, one hand on his thigh
No - she was sort of half a step behind him
Yeah, the grip on his thigh intensified
As they walked slowly through the corridor
He named the hallway "Lust"
And as they passed through the next one
He named it "Fear"
The grip she now loosened
So he walked faster
Her hands now trembling
She let dropped 2 her side as he wrote the word "Insecurity"
He looked into her eyes and smiled a demon smile
And quickly walked onto the next
Corridor after corridor
He named almost all when suddenly… he stopped
He picked up the word "Hate"
She was gone
So he picked up another – "Pain"

[Edited 1/14/15 22:59pm]

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Reply #119 posted 01/15/15 2:36am

Pjwest

Can anyone tell me where they think the best version of the 'Corridor' Computer Blue is?

Not asking for a copy - I was just wondering what bootleg its on?

Cheers

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