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Thread started 01/08/15 9:47am

thebanishedone

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St Vincent Digital Witness borrows from Prince?

I dont know if this was discussed but vocal melody in

the verses is indentical to a song Prince did for Sheila E.

Its clearly a plagiarism .Help me out ,which song did St Vincent borrowed from Sheila catalog?

Did Prince sue?

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Reply #1 posted 01/08/15 10:50am

langebleu

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thebanishedone said:

'St Vincent Digital World borrows from Prince?'

I dont know if this was discussed but vocal melody in

the verses is indentical to a song Prince did for Sheila E.

Its clearly a plagiarism .Help me out ,which song did St Vincent borrowed from Sheila catalog?

Did Prince sue?


'Digital World'?

Are you referring to 'Digital Witness'?

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Reply #2 posted 01/08/15 11:04am

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langebleu said:

thebanishedone said:

'St Vincent Digital World borrows from Prince?'

I dont know if this was discussed but vocal melody in

the verses is indentical to a song Prince did for Sheila E.

Its clearly a plagiarism .Help me out ,which song did St Vincent borrowed from Sheila catalog?

Did Prince sue?


'Digital World'?

Are you referring to 'Digital Witness'?

yes haha,my bad biggrin

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Reply #3 posted 01/08/15 11:26am

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You know it does have a Sheila E. kinda vibe actually, that never occurred to me before. I don't get the impression she's a big prince fan though, based on interviews i've seen she seems to take more from Bowie than prince and I remember laughing recently when she tweeted her shock at finding out that Prince's real name is Prince. Aaaanyway, at a guess maybe you're hearing a similarity to Koo Koo or Toy Box?

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Reply #4 posted 01/08/15 11:41am

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I don't know what u're talking about. Nothing in the song sounds exactly like anything belse I've heard. Plagiarism? I don't see anything here even remotely close to plagiarism going on. The horns have a slight resembelence to hornheads/BJB stuff.

I kinda like the song and am glad I heard it...but it aint stolen by any means....silly.
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Reply #5 posted 01/08/15 12:29pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I don't know what u're talking about. Nothing in the song sounds exactly like anything belse I've heard. Plagiarism? I don't see anything here even remotely close to plagiarism going on. The horns have a slight resembelence to hornheads/BJB stuff. I kinda like the song and am glad I heard it...but it aint stolen by any means....silly.

I love St Vincent but verse vocal melody is taken from a song Prince did for Sheila E but i cant recall which song it is.

maybe Olivers House? Toy Box?

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Reply #6 posted 01/08/15 12:35pm

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No.
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Reply #7 posted 01/08/15 2:08pm

jaawwnn

thebanishedone said:



BobGeorge909 said:


I don't know what u're talking about. Nothing in the song sounds exactly like anything belse I've heard. Plagiarism? I don't see anything here even remotely close to plagiarism going on. The horns have a slight resembelence to hornheads/BJB stuff. I kinda like the song and am glad I heard it...but it aint stolen by any means....silly.

I love St Vincent but verse vocal melody is taken from a song Prince did for Sheila E but i cant recall which song it is.


maybe Olivers House? Toy Box?

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I seriously think this all is in your head. At a (very strong)push the bit that goes "People turn the TV on, it looks just like the window" bears some similarity to the melody of Toy Box but not anywhere enough to constitute a legal case for plagiarism. Is this what you're referring to? I'm kinda curious now
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Reply #8 posted 01/08/15 3:11pm

siriusfunk

I thought the same thing when I first heard this song months ago. Very Prince like. Very good song.Didn't think about it until I read your post and read Sheila E. I think I found it. Similar to Wendy and Lisa's Waterfall maybe? Not exact but similar. What do you think? Starting at "People" in both songs? Very similar beat as well.
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Reply #9 posted 01/08/15 3:59pm

jdcxc

Major Prince influence going on...she has talked about going for the P vibe on this album in interviews.
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Reply #10 posted 01/08/15 4:55pm

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siriusfunk said:

I thought the same thing when I first heard this song months ago. Very Prince like. Very good song.Didn't think about it until I read your post and read Sheila E. I think I found it. Similar to Wendy and Lisa's Waterfall maybe? Not exact but similar. What do you think? Starting at "People" in both songs? Very similar beat as well. [Edited 1/8/15 15:18pm]

Yes it sounds like Waterfall.the chorus of Waterfall is the same as verses in a St Vincent SONG. biggrin

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Reply #11 posted 01/08/15 5:46pm

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I reached pretty far to correlate this with waterfall by w&l(not prince), but my tape measure ran out and I couldn't get there.
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Reply #12 posted 01/08/15 6:12pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I reached pretty far to correlate this with waterfall by w&l(not prince), but my tape measure ran out and I couldn't get there.

lol yeah, i cant get there either lol but i like that song waterfall

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Reply #13 posted 01/08/15 6:46pm

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thebanishedone said:

I dont know if this was discussed but vocal melody in

the verses is indentical to a song Prince did for Sheila E.

Its clearly a plagiarism .Help me out ,which song did St Vincent borrowed from Sheila catalog?

Did Prince sue?

[Edited 1/8/15 11:02am]

You want to talk about plagarism? 'Colonized Mind' plagarizes Miriam Makeba's 'Quit It'. 'Cream' plagarizes T. Rex's 'Get it On'. Even lyrically. 'Chelsea Rodgers' plagarizes Azoto's 'Any Time or Place'.

Either that or you don't know what the word plagarize means.

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Reply #14 posted 01/08/15 6:56pm

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^^^^^
What he said.
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Reply #15 posted 01/08/15 7:50pm

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steakfinger said:

thebanishedone said:

I dont know if this was discussed but vocal melody in

the verses is indentical to a song Prince did for Sheila E.

Its clearly a plagiarism .Help me out ,which song did St Vincent borrowed from Sheila catalog?

Did Prince sue?

[Edited 1/8/15 11:02am]

You want to talk about plagarism? 'Colonized Mind' plagarizes Miriam Makeba's 'Quit It'. 'Cream' plagarizes T. Rex's 'Get it On'. Even lyrically. 'Chelsea Rodgers' plagarizes Azoto's 'Any Time or Place'.

Either that or you don't know what the word plagarize means.

Nice jam by Azoto,but its not plagerized by Prince,you can find this kind of bass line in many disco songs and vocal melodies are different but i agree about Miriam.

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Reply #16 posted 01/08/15 11:20pm

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The chorus sounds like Tori Amos.

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Reply #17 posted 01/09/15 3:42am

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I thought it sounded Fruit At The Bottom-y era to me.

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Reply #18 posted 01/09/15 5:30am

jdcxc

Spin Magazine:

St. Vincent also shows she's a good study: Clark has cited Prince as a prime influence here, and you can hear it in the tight three-chord funk vamps (see "Psychopath"), and little leads and licks that push the songs into new melodic territory (album opener "Rattlesnake"). The result might indeed remind you of Sign O' the Times (another record begun within a day of its star attraction wrapping a tour), given the vignette feeling of songs like "Prince Johnny," wherein Clark sings of invisibility in the face of some boy's habit: "Prostrate on my carpet / You traced the Andes with your index / And bragged of when and where and who you're gonna bed next." It's as intimate a scene as you'll get, unless we're counting that ribald "Birth in Reverse" line "Oh what an ordinary day / Take out the garbage, masturbate"; the oblique "Bring Me Your Loves" is more concerned with lust, whereas on "Digital Witness," she demands "all of your mind" amid sinewy synths and guitars that bleat like horns when they're not crunching with fuzz.
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Reply #19 posted 01/11/15 7:16am

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thebanishedone said:

steakfinger said:

You want to talk about plagarism? 'Colonized Mind' plagarizes Miriam Makeba's 'Quit It'. 'Cream' plagarizes T. Rex's 'Get it On'. Even lyrically. 'Chelsea Rodgers' plagarizes Azoto's 'Any Time or Place'.

Either that or you don't know what the word plagarize means.

Nice jam by Azoto,but its not plagerized by Prince,you can find this kind of bass line in many disco songs and vocal melodies are different but i agree about Miriam.

I'm actually joking about all that. My point is that plagarism is something quite different than what most of the unwashed masses here think it is.

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Reply #20 posted 01/12/15 11:35am

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Spin Magazine: St. Vincent also shows she's a good study: Clark has cited Prince as a prime influence here, and you can hear it in the tight three-chord funk vamps (see "Psychopath"), and little leads and licks that push the songs into new melodic territory (album opener "Rattlesnake"). The result might indeed remind you of Sign O' the Times (another record begun within a day of its star attraction wrapping a tour), given the vignette feeling of songs like "Prince Johnny," wherein Clark sings of invisibility in the face of some boy's habit: "Prostrate on my carpet / You traced the Andes with your index / And bragged of when and where and who you're gonna bed next." It's as intimate a scene as you'll get, unless we're counting that ribald "Birth in Reverse" line "Oh what an ordinary day / Take out the garbage, masturbate"; the oblique "Bring Me Your Loves" is more concerned with lust, whereas on "Digital Witness," she demands "all of your mind" amid sinewy synths and guitars that bleat like horns when they're not crunching with fuzz.

i'm actually struggling to find anywhere where she has cited prince as an influence like they say.

edit: oh, actually here: http://www.ascap.com/play...nts-ascent
I have this bizarre feeling she has only gotten into him in the past year, but sure we're into personal readings of someone's life at this point so i'll leave it be lol

[Edited 1/12/15 11:39am]

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Reply #21 posted 01/12/15 4:36pm

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jaawwnn said:



jdcxc said:


Spin Magazine: St. Vincent also shows she's a good study: Clark has cited Prince as a prime influence here, and you can hear it in the tight three-chord funk vamps (see "Psychopath"), and little leads and licks that push the songs into new melodic territory (album opener "Rattlesnake"). The result might indeed remind you of Sign O' the Times (another record begun within a day of its star attraction wrapping a tour), given the vignette feeling of songs like "Prince Johnny," wherein Clark sings of invisibility in the face of some boy's habit: "Prostrate on my carpet / You traced the Andes with your index / And bragged of when and where and who you're gonna bed next." It's as intimate a scene as you'll get, unless we're counting that ribald "Birth in Reverse" line "Oh what an ordinary day / Take out the garbage, masturbate"; the oblique "Bring Me Your Loves" is more concerned with lust, whereas on "Digital Witness," she demands "all of your mind" amid sinewy synths and guitars that bleat like horns when they're not crunching with fuzz.

i'm actually struggling to find anywhere where she has cited prince as an influence like they say.

edit: oh, actually here: http://www.ascap.com/play...nts-ascent
I have this bizarre feeling she has only gotten into him in the past year, but sure we're into personal readings of someone's life at this point so i'll leave it be lol

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She references P all over the place:

What's your Prince track of choice?
That's too hard. "I Would Die 4 U" is a perfect pop song. Maybe one from Controversy. What would I like Prince to do next? I'd love him to take me on tour!

GQ UK
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Reply #22 posted 01/13/15 2:54am

jaawwnn

jdcxc said:

jaawwnn said:

i'm actually struggling to find anywhere where she has cited prince as an influence like they say.

edit: oh, actually here: http://www.ascap.com/play...nts-ascent
I have this bizarre feeling she has only gotten into him in the past year, but sure we're into personal readings of someone's life at this point so i'll leave it be lol

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She references P all over the place: What's your Prince track of choice? That's too hard. "I Would Die 4 U" is a perfect pop song. Maybe one from Controversy. What would I like Prince to do next? I'd love him to take me on tour! GQ UK

August 2014.

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Reply #23 posted 01/13/15 5:22pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I reached pretty far to correlate this with waterfall by w&l(not prince), but my tape measure ran out and I couldn't get there.



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