Ok we are priviliged after all, Prince used to be so prolific releasing at least 1 album a year.

That's more album releases than most of other artists can have.

He took a rather long break - 4 years 2010-2014 - I guess to make AOA more succesful commercially.

But those 4 years was a waste of time, we can tell that now since AOA has failed commercially.

We know how much Prince loves money, and he is ambitious, he must be frustrated now, not even selling half a million.

I wonder will we have another 4 years break from now,




Is Prince's career over? (Maybe that happened a long tme ago?),

Will we have another 4 years waiting TIME for another album release - in 2018?

Take a guess, what do you expect from our hero?

Ok, with "4 years wasted waiting time" - I mean this did not help his sales figures for AOA, to make a pause between releases.

If I remember right, this has always been a demand from Warner Bros.

WB wanted him not to release albums in a "too high" pace, therefor it must be frustrating both for Prince and for Warner to see AOA selling almost nothing.

Actually if u look at my discography site u'll see that we've had shitloads of online released or streamed music for the last few years. Maybe not full albums (I myself prefer albums as I don't like listening to random tracks) but the music's been there.

+ since 2005 we've had 1 album in 2006, 1 album in 2007, 1 live album in 2008, 3 albums in 2009, 1 album in 2010, 1 album in 2012 and 2 albums in 2014, that's still an album a year on the average (that's also less than before, but still more than most artists).

So I ain't complaining. I'd like more albums and less random tracks but I sure ain't complaining.

As for what's next hell if anyone knows. Even if Prince himself knows he'll probably have changed his mind by next week anyway.

The big question now I guess is what's gonna happen with the announced PR remaster and possible subsequent remaster projects. And also whether the fact that P now regained rights over his past unreleased catalogue will make him feel inclined to deliver more vault material the way he was inclined to in 98-01.

No need for speculation really, let's just wait and see

thedance said:

Ok we are priviliged after all, Prince used to be so prolific releasing at least 1 album a year.

That's more album releases than most of other artists can have.

He took a rather long break - 4 years 2010-2014 - I guess to make AOA more succesful commercially.

But those 4 years was a waste of time, we can tell that now since AOA has failed commercially.

We know how much Prince loves money, and he is ambitious, he must be frustrated now, not even selling half a million.

I wonder will we have another 4 years break from now,




Is Prince's career over? (Maybe that happened a long tme ago?),

Will we have another 4 years waiting TIME for another album release - in 2018?

Take a guess, what do you expect from our hero?

So you equate sales with quality? I think AOA and PE were great and good albums respectively. I expect for "our hero" to continue to produce quality music. I guess your opinion of the quality of AOA and PE depends on the how many copies were sold. Please get a bank loan and buy a clue!

^ yeah, I No: talking about Prince's rather low sales figures is a "soft spot" for some of you,

Still one needs to sell - after all, to release albums, I guess.

Right?

nigel1013 said:

thedance said:

Ok we are priviliged after all, Prince used to be so prolific releasing at least 1 album a year.

That's more album releases than most of other artists can have.

He took a rather long break - 4 years 2010-2014 - I guess to make AOA more succesful commercially.

But those 4 years was a waste of time, we can tell that now since AOA has failed commercially.

We know how much Prince loves money, and he is ambitious, he must be frustrated now, not even selling half a million.

I wonder will we have another 4 years break from now,




Is Prince's career over? (Maybe that happened a long tme ago?),

Will we have another 4 years waiting TIME for another album release - in 2018?

Take a guess, what do you expect from our hero?

So you equate sales with quality? I think AOA and PE were great and good albums respectively. I expect for "our hero" to continue to produce quality music. I guess your opinion of the quality of AOA and PE depends on the how many copies were sold. Please get a bank loan and buy a clue!

And if u think PE is a GOOD PRINCE ALBUM then u need a bank loan as well...

feeluupp said:

nigel1013 said:

So you equate sales with quality? I think AOA and PE were great and good albums respectively. I expect for "our hero" to continue to produce quality music. I guess your opinion of the quality of AOA and PE depends on the how many copies were sold. Please get a bank loan and buy a clue!

And if u think PE is a GOOD PRINCE ALBUM then u need a bank loan as well...

And your absence is always welcome....................

i wouldn't mind a series of Vault style albums, 1 every 9 - 12 months, 10 - 12 tracks, pristine versions of his unreleased gems.

thedance said:

^ yeah, I No: talking about Prince's rather low sales figures is a "soft spot" for some of you,

Still one needs to sell - after all, to release albums, I guess.

Right?

If P's sales figures justified an artist not releasing albums a all anymore then at least 95% of the records that come out every week wouldn't be released at all. Still the paradox is that even though records sell less and less more and more are being released every year.

There's of course a difference between a product being profitable and making a huge profit out of it. An album doesn't need millions of copies sold in order to be profitable. And P records new music anyway so the money's spent anyway, so it's more about whether he feels inclined to deliver it or not because there's no way he's gonna lose more money by selling albums than by putting them in the vault

Now he's also moody and he said in an interviews 2 or 3 years back that basically he was going to blackmail the world by not releasing albums as long as illegal download would exist. Well, I'm afraid the world didn't fall for it because record sales keep dropping, don't they?

So now it's either he will face the music and deal with reality and at the same time be nice to his fanbase or he won't, but there's no way in the world he can sell records by the million anymore, no matter what he does. He makes his dough with live shows like everyone else, now.

Now making some extra cash by releasing more music mostly aimed at his fanbase, that he can.

i can't say what he should do... but i know what i'd like him to do

go into a studio with russell elevado and make a great record of thick, juicy, heavy funk

maybe have steve jordan play drums for him

What do you mean "wasted waiting time"?

Prince thinks very little of the industry as it stands today. That much should be obvious. Whatever he thought about it 20 years ago is now a fraction of that, and he sees artists are hurting and some of his predictions have come true. Was he right to fight illegal Youtube videos? Well right now the talk is about the damage streaming and Youtube are doing, and how those new channels completely shortchange artists, good or bad.

It's like people think Prince doesn't know the industry -- he's been studying it since high school and did some of the biggest deals in the industry -- what about you?

So he let the music ride on its own merit with little promotion, leaving the facetime to the girls except when he was performing.

Albums today are barely worth your time except as promotion for your brand so you can tour and marchnadize, because music has become this thing you no longer need to buy. You can rent it for a fraction of the price, and little goes to the artist.

Under the best of circumstances, if Prince was really desperate, he could make his next release a Diamond and Pearls and completely whore himself and his talent to sell, say, a million copy. Two if you're really drinking the purple koolaid.

Then what? What does he care, he's already worth over 200 million dollars. Selling two million copies isn't that profitable, depending on the deal, when you have a fortune like that.. A big "Musicology" type tour is much more profitable -- such is the state of the record indusry today, barely providing incentives to those who really have the talent.

MIRvmn said:

The break was most likely cuz Prince couldn't find a good distributor. I don't know how long he will be with wb this time but I hope they will distribute his next album inclusive PR remaster this year

Nonsense, hundreds of small indie artists and labels who only have a much more limited audience easily find worldwide or at least continental distributors. For chrissakes I know local bands and labels from my hometown who had complete european or worldwide distribution deals despite selling about 10,000 units of their albums at most. P had Purple Music and Kobalt ready to distribute him anytime he wanted (Kobalt distributes totally obscure artists, get a look at their catalogue and see how many of their artists you've heard of). He could have had Livenation. He had Target in 09. He had Universal and Sony right before that. He can be on iTunes and Amazon any day he wants (anyone can). He could get anyone he wanted. Distribution was never the problem. Possibly more challenging was to find a label to give him a juicy advance, something new business models such as iTunes, Amazon, Kobalt or Livenation don't do and that small labels like Purple Music can't afford. However I doubt the microscopic labels who distributed TRC and NEWS could give him a juicy advance either and that didn't prevent him from working with them. But he was quoted saying he wouldn't work with iTunes precisely because they don't give advances so IDK, this may have been more of a problem than distribution.

databank said:

+ since 2005 we've had 1 album in 2006, 1 album in 2007, 1 live album in 2008, 3 albums in 2009, 1 album in 2010, 1 album in 2012 and 2 albums in 2014, that's still an album a year on the average (that's also less than before, but still more than most artists).

What was the album in 2012? Andy Allo, surely not or a live bootleg of the Welcome to Australia tour, otherwise there was not an official Prince album released that year.

.

In response to the OP, PLE (PE to me is Planet Earth) was a uneven album with some true rubbish like Boytrouble and Aintturnround, but also had some excellent songs like Fixurlifeup, Anotherlove and Wow!. AOA was a very good album that just has underperformed like most over music in 2014.

I think the next album will be later this year (2015), and probably the mediocre second album of 3EG that is in the can now. We may get a few more new singles and suites off Prince, but I am not holding my breath. I have an eery feeling that AOA was a big Farewell album with a bang.

.

However, surprise me Prince!

Adorecream said:

databank said:

+ since 2005 we've had 1 album in 2006, 1 album in 2007, 1 live album in 2008, 3 albums in 2009, 1 album in 2010, 1 album in 2012 and 2 albums in 2014, that's still an album a year on the average (that's also less than before, but still more than most artists).

What was the album in 2012? Andy Allo, surely not or a live bootleg of the Welcome to Australia tour, otherwise there was not an official Prince album released that year.

.

In response to the OP, PLE (PE to me is Planet Earth) was a uneven album with some true rubbish like Boytrouble and Aintturnround, but also had some excellent songs like Fixurlifeup, Anotherlove and Wow!. AOA was a very good album that just has underperformed like most over music in 2014.

I think the next album will be later this year (2015), and probably the mediocre second album of 3EG that is in the can now. We may get a few more new singles and suites off Prince, but I am not holding my breath. I have an eery feeling that AOA was a big Farewell album with a bang.

.

However, surprise me Prince!

Superconductor indeed. It could have bore the names "Prince and Andy Allo" on the cover and not crediting that way was purely a matter of marketing decisions. It was by all means a collaborative efforts between 2 artists no matter who they finally decided to give the official credit to. We ain't gonna have this ridiculous debate about Prince not singing or the name on the cover. It exists, it's an album and it shan't be ignored as a part of P's official canon.

.

Actually I forgot the 1998 NY live show that was released in 2012 for digital download, so anyway even if lack of common sense will make one deny Superconductor's existence that's still at least one live album in 2012, therefore pushing the global figure to 11 in a decade instead of 10.

feeluupp said:

nigel1013 said:

So you equate sales with quality? I think AOA and PE were great and good albums respectively. I expect for "our hero" to continue to produce quality music. I guess your opinion of the quality of AOA and PE depends on the how many copies were sold. Please get a bank loan and buy a clue!

And if u think PE is a GOOD PRINCE ALBUM then u need a bank loan as well...

I was lookng at my song plays for 2014 on itunes the other day, and PE as a whole was played by me more than any other album and i listen to a shitload of music. Stop trying to form opinions for other people about what people should find good or not. Thanks

lezama said:

feeluupp said:

And if u think PE is a GOOD PRINCE ALBUM then u need a bank loan as well...

I was lookng at my song plays for 2014 on itunes the other day, and PE as a whole was played by me more than any other album and i listen to a shitload of music. Stop trying to form opinions for other people about what people should find good or not. Thanks

Vice Versa.

databank said:

Actually if u look at my discography site u'll see that we've had shitloads of online released or streamed music for the last few years. Maybe not full albums (I myself prefer albums as I don't like listening to random tracks) but the music's been there.

+ since 2005 we've had 1 album in 2006, 1 album in 2007, 1 live album in 2008, 3 albums in 2009, 1 album in 2010, 1 album in 2012 and 2 albums in 2014, that's still an album a year on the average (that's also less than before, but still more than most artists).

So I ain't complaining. I'd like more albums and less random tracks but I sure ain't complaining.

As for what's next hell if anyone knows. Even if Prince himself knows he'll probably have changed his mind by next week anyway.

The big question now I guess is what's gonna happen with the announced PR remaster and possible subsequent remaster projects. And also whether the fact that P now regained rights over his past unreleased catalogue will make him feel inclined to deliver more vault material the way he was inclined to in 98-01.

No need for speculation really, let's just wait and see

Very nice comprehensive Prince discography site.

Astasheiks said:

databank said:

Actually if u look at my discography site u'll see that we've had shitloads of online released or streamed music for the last few years. Maybe not full albums (I myself prefer albums as I don't like listening to random tracks) but the music's been there.

+ since 2005 we've had 1 album in 2006, 1 album in 2007, 1 live album in 2008, 3 albums in 2009, 1 album in 2010, 1 album in 2012 and 2 albums in 2014, that's still an album a year on the average (that's also less than before, but still more than most artists).

So I ain't complaining. I'd like more albums and less random tracks but I sure ain't complaining.

As for what's next hell if anyone knows. Even if Prince himself knows he'll probably have changed his mind by next week anyway.

The big question now I guess is what's gonna happen with the announced PR remaster and possible subsequent remaster projects. And also whether the fact that P now regained rights over his past unreleased catalogue will make him feel inclined to deliver more vault material the way he was inclined to in 98-01.

No need for speculation really, let's just wait and see

Very nice comprehensive Prince discography site.

Thx dear

warning2all said:

Tonight Prince sits alone in Paisley Park, his afro a unruly mess- a symbol of a suddenly bygone era, and his 3rd Eye Girls disbanded... "My fans and my record company want my vault material", he says to himself, " which is enough reason to deny them". He walks down the dark corridor,past old photos of the Revolution and the Lovesexy band, past the silent engineering room & into the darkness...

MoBettaBliss said:

Aerogram said:

databank said:

Superconductor indeed. It could have bore the names "Prince and Andy Allo" on the cover and not crediting that way was purely a matter of marketing decisions. It was by all means a collaborative efforts between 2 artists no matter who they finally decided to give the official credit to. We ain't gonna have this ridiculous debate about Prince not singing or the name on the cover. It exists, it's an album and it shan't be ignored as a part of P's official canon.

.

.

Well since you use that methodology, the following are all also Prince albums, The Time, What Time is it, Vanity 6, Ice Cream Castles, The Glamorous life, The Family, Romance 1600, Jill Jones, Sheila E, Madhouse 8, Madhouse 16. Madhouse 24, Ingrid Chavez, Taja Sevelle, Carmen Electra, Children of the sun, Exodus, Goldnigga, The Voice, Smell my finger, The Cinderella Theory, Time waits for no one, The War, High, 1-800 New funk, GCS 2000, Come 2 my house, Milk and Honey, Apollonia 6, Pandemonium, Tony Le Mans, and no doubt a few others I have missed out.

.

All are pretty much Prince albums as he pretty much wrote all the music!!

.

Like most fans I consider Superconductor an associated artist album rather than a Prince one, then again Plectrum Electrum and Elixer are also pretty mush associated artists too even with the Prince vocals. So he has only released 1 real album in 4 years, and nothing entirely Prince came out at all between 20Ten and Art Official Age.

[Edited 1/2/15 2:51am]

Plectrumelectrum isn't a protege album. It's Prince's new band, like the Revolution and the NPG.

feeluupp said:

lezama said:

I was lookng at my song plays for 2014 on itunes the other day, and PE as a whole was played by me more than any other album and i listen to a shitload of music. Stop trying to form opinions for other people about what people should find good or not. Thanks

Vice Versa.

You know the great thing is I dont even need to post all the threads where you've criticized others for their perspectives. Or need to post all those where you repeat the same thread over and over because you felt your perspective wasn't sufficiently shared on the org. We can all view your posting history.

Prince will continue as he always has. Threads saying "all prince has to do is use youtube and he'll back back on top" (and therefore, what?) will continue.