Prince will soon be obsolete in this Art Official Age.

His legacy quickly dimenishing to the general public, while only the true music lovers who've been exposed to him carry his music on.

No YouTube, no way to search for Prince videos or music, very scary... In 10 years with all the modernization of music and technology Prince will be just a live act...

TBH, i always thought of his irrational behavior as a way to set up something bigger and more exclusive.

After the 'Lotus Flower' album, i'm not so sure anymore, either.

i guess his literal motive is, "...2 b left alone."

It's pretty sad.

feeluupp said:

Prince will soon be obsolete in this Art Official Age.

His legacy quickly dimenishing to the general public, while only the true music lovers who've been exposed to him carry his music on.

No YouTube, no way to search for Prince videos or music, very scary... In 10 years with all the modernization of music and technology Prince will be just a live act...

Whatever, artists like ELVIS and JAMES BROWN & many others legacies live on and will live on, even prior to THE INTERNET.

No way to search for music? its all on iTUNES, BUY IT and play it for your kids & kids kids like other folks do.

[Edited 12/30/14 15:06pm]

Don't be silly.

warning2all said:

feeluupp said:

Peak on the Billboard Top 200 of his 6 US albums over the past 10 years, since "Musicology"

3, 1, 3, 2, 5, & 8.

Man I'd love to be that obsolete.

NoVideo said:

Peak on the Billboard Top 200 of his 6 US albums over the past 10 years, since "Musicology"

3, 1, 3, 2, 5, & 8.

Man I'd love to be that obsolete.

And time spent on the Billboard Top 200? Let's be honest...

LittlePurpleYoda said:

NoVideo said:

Peak on the Billboard Top 200 of his 6 US albums over the past 10 years, since "Musicology"

3, 1, 3, 2, 5, & 8.

Man I'd love to be that obsolete.

And time spent on the Billboard Top 200? Let's be honest...

Does it matter? He has enough fans that every album he puts out makes the Top 10. Over 30 years since his first commercial breakthrough. VERY few artists can make that claim.

Here we go again, same old posts from the same predictable people...

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Even though I think you're wrong, So what if you're right!

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He has great music, makes great music, what more do you want?

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He's already famous, maybe not your liking... get over it.

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30+ albums of great music, yet P will be obsolete, yep, you're right

GoldenParachute said:

what is HIS impression of the sales of thoe cds?

NoVideo said:

LittlePurpleYoda said:

And time spent on the Billboard Top 200? Let's be honest...

Does it matter? He has enough fans that every album he puts out makes the Top 10. Over 30 years since his first commercial breakthrough. VERY few artists can make that claim.

Yes, it does. Consider how movies are made & marketed these days. Many movies that have a huge opening weekend are not the films that will be remembered 10, 20, 50 or even 2 years from now. And as others have pointed out, the charts have evolved in such a way & it's likely Prince's fanbase is likely to behave in such a way that there will be an initial first blip on the radar & then his albums will disappear. With no promotion, no legitimate tour, no airplay & no interest from Prince himself, his projects are generally doomed from the outset.

When he can chart with 40,000 - 60,000 sales, compared to his heyday, that's not much to boast about.

thedoorkeeper said:

The one thing Prince created that he can't touch/block is Purple Rain - the movie. This will keep his legacy alive. Michael Jackson will be obsolete way before Prince because MJ made no huge, successful movie statement. Like The Beatles, like Elvis - Prince has a legacy of movies which are much more long lasting then any music videos. Its the power of movies and Prince was able to tap into that power. [Edited 12/30/14 14:58pm]

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I think you are overestimating the impact of Prince´s movies. While I agree with you about Purple Rain´s massive impact, I doubt it is enough to overshadow MJ in the long run.....Michael Jackson is still a world wide phenomenon, people all over the world still know him and still know his songs, while the same can´t be said about Prince. When I was in Nigeria I made a Nigerian guy listen to an mp3-player full of Prince songs from the early 80s to the mid 2000s, and there was not a single song that he knew or liked, but he knew at least five or six MJ songs by heart and loved contemporary rap.

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Prince´s other movies are pretty much unknown or the butt of jokes outside the Prince fan world.

I love Under the Cherry Moon but I doubt it ranks up there with the Elvis or Beatles movies.

And MJ´s long video clips probably left just as big of an impact as Prince´s Purple Rain.

I have no idea what Prince´s plans for his legacy are but it´s sad to see that he´s watching his legacy get lost in oblivion while at the same time trying to protect it financially by banning everything on the internet.

Personally, I doubt that having live clips, videos, songs or even full album sales on the internet really hurts the artists more than not having anything online. Sure, the internet leaks and online clips probably do hurt sales, but if it introduces people to a new (or old )artist, then I see more profit than loss, see countless other artists as examples....they don´t mind having their stuff online for free, and they still sell albums or tickets.

feeluupp said:

Prince will soon be obsolete

What you describe is already fact...

KoolEaze said:

Personally, I doubt that having live clips, videos, songs or even full album sales on the internet really hurts the artists more than not having anything online. Sure, the internet leaks and online clips probably do hurt sales, but if it introduces people to a new (or old )artist, then I see more profit than loss, see countless other artists as examples....they don´t mind having their stuff online for free, and they still sell albums or tickets.

Not so sure about the bolded part. To me, at least, it's much more refreshing and friendly when an artist lets me listen to an album before buying. That way I can make up my mind about whether I like the songs or not before forking over cash to support them making more. It actually makes me more supportive of them and more likely to buy their work. Case in point: Look at the online presence of an artist who shall not be named (for fear of starting a piss fight), recently released a long awaited album and is completely open to people finding their work, live shows, etc online. Allows people to listen and make their mind up about the music before supporting. Doesn't get all iffy about people sharing their ideas, criticisms, additions etc. regarding the music.

getfunked said:

KoolEaze said:

Personally, I doubt that having live clips, videos, songs or even full album sales on the internet really hurts the artists more than not having anything online. Sure, the internet leaks and online clips probably do hurt sales, but if it introduces people to a new (or old )artist, then I see more profit than loss, see countless other artists as examples....they don´t mind having their stuff online for free, and they still sell albums or tickets.

Not so sure about the bolded part. To me, at least, it's much more refreshing and friendly when an artist lets me listen to an album before buying. That way I can make up my mind about whether I like the songs or not before forking over cash to support them making more. It actually makes me more supportive of them and more likely to buy their work. Case in point: Look at the online presence of an artist who shall not be named (for fear of starting a piss fight), recently released a long awaited album and is completely open to people finding their work, live shows, etc online. Allows people to listen and make their mind up about the music before supporting. Doesn't get all iffy about people sharing their ideas, criticisms, additions etc. regarding the music.

Hey, I can totally relate to what you just wrote and I feel exactly the same way, especially about that OTHER artist you didn´t want to mention by name.

That dude does not mind, and it does not hurt his album or ticket sales one bit, on the contrary, he´s doing the smartest thing there.

And yes, I pretty much agree with everything you said above. I should have worded my post a bit better.

He's been called irrelevant by some for close to 20 years and still lands albums in the top 10 in 2014 with very little promotion and a fanbase that couldn't be more adept at taking advantage of leaks and boots.

His songs are regularly covered and his music is taught in university. His released albums already constitute one of the most vast and interesting musical offerings out there, and if the vault ever opens wide, it will make his body of work even more monumental -- a pop musicologist's dream come true.

Art Official Age is actually great news because he venured out of his legacy comfort zone and made something compelling. His usual critics were not happy with it, but they are the same people that started calling him irrelevant 10, 15, 20 years ago, so WTF do they know? They are proving themselves wrong by continuing to discuss his relevance ages after they first came out with their Statement of Irrelevance.

Obsolete artists don't get threads like this, they were left alone long ago.

[Edited 1/1/15 8:04am]

thedoorkeeper said:

The one thing Prince created that he can't touch/block is Purple Rain - the movie. This will keep his legacy alive. Michael Jackson will be obsolete way before Prince because MJ made no huge, successful movie statement. Like The Beatles, like Elvis - Prince has a legacy of movies which are much more long lasting then any music videos. Its the power of movies and Prince was able to tap into that power. [Edited 12/30/14 14:58pm]

But the MJ estate will keep re releasing his back catologue every 5 - 10 years

feeluupp said:

Prince will soon be obsolete in this Art Official Age.

His legacy quickly dimenishing to the general public, while only the true music lovers who've been exposed to him carry his music on.

His legacy has barely been touched. He was never one for allowing many cover versions. The fact Uptown Funk is doing so well will always spark Prince comparisons.

No YouTube, no way to search for Prince videos or music, very scary... In 10 years with all the modernization of music and technology Prince will be just a live act...

... In 10 years time the guy will be almost 70 years old. He's not a top 10 artist anymore. He isn't going to suddenly change and work out a 2 year promotion plan for his next album.

He has a huge and vastly untapped back catalog. Along with thousands of hours of live and unreleased material. Putting thousands of hours of live material on Youtube might be a fans wet dream come true but would not gain him millions of new fans, nor would it generate even the income needed to pay someone to convert and upload the footage.

legend status cannot become obsolete

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Very well said, thank you.

Aerogram said:

He's been called irrelevant by some for close to 20 years and still lands albums in the top 10 in 2014 with very little promotion and a fanbase that couldn't be more adept at taking advantage of leaks and boots.

His songs are regularly covered and his music is taught in university. His released albums already constitute one of the most vast and interesting musical offerings out there, and if the vault ever opens wide, it will make his body of work even more monumental -- a pop musicologist's dream come true.

Art Official Age is actually great news because he venured out of his legacy comfort zone and made something compelling. His usual critics were not happy with it, but they are the same people that started calling him irrelevant 10, 15, 20 years ago, so WTF do they know? They are proving themselves wrong by continuing to discuss his relevance ages after they first came out with their Statement of Irrelevance.

Obsolete artists don't get threads like this, they were left alone long ago.

[Edited 1/1/15 8:04am]

Another thank you, Good slap up side for the P haters on hear!!!

Prince killed is own career by being a Billy Jack Bitch

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