databank said:

It's AMAZING. The boot I have is Night Before the Reign.

luvsexy4all said:

i still cant believe a musician of his caliber doesnt have a proper live release.

Are you meaning a live cd? Or a live DVD?

Technically, he has released both. I just wish he would release some from certain periods (PR, LoveSexy, Nude, etc) when he was 'popular.'

His live releases have been shocking. The OPs list aside there are only 2 live albums. "One night alone" which is about as dull a Prince concert as I've ever heard, and "Indigo Nights" Which is slightly better but still surprisingly dull.

The rest are either unavailable or only available pre-owned on out of date media.

SOTT is hands down the best one of the bunch closely followed by "The Undertaker. The Sacrifice of victor is a great show but bogged down by the gospel choir that turns up to slow things down half way through, although I do love that rendition of "In the Mood"

herb4 said:

luvsexy4all said:

he's like KISS --who have so much better sounding live shows than what is released

No KISS is terrible, even though I like them for what they are. One thing you can say about them is they always give their fans their money's worth and deliver what they want. Maybe they have to because they have minimal talent but they know who butters their bread. They put their fans first and their live releases have been great IMO.

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KISSology alone is a huge gift to their fans and a testament to why KISS remains popluar. Prince has NEVER done anything like that and I doubt he ever will. Prince sues his fans. Other bands and musicians are grateful for their support and largely don't act like THEY are doing YOU a favor by showing up on time, granting an interview, promoting material, singing a song or even running a decent website.

just listen to their tours from '74'-76

daPrettyman said:

luvsexy4all said:

i still cant believe a musician of his caliber doesnt have a proper live release.

Are you meaning a live cd? Or a live DVD?

Technically, he has released both. I just wish he would release some from certain periods (PR, LoveSexy, Nude, etc) when he was 'popular.'

the live CDs he's released r not up to the standards we all know he's capable of-

the lovesexy long island show would be a good place to start releasing

databank said:

KingSausage said:

The soundboard of the 1984 birthday show blows the shit out of any official live releases. He should just put that sucker out.

I have it only in audience, I'm confused about how I could miss the soundboard when it leaked, what was the name of the boot and the label???

Jeezus dude you serious? That was a pretty huge event man, can't believe you missed it, it pretty much instantaneously shot to the top of most people's "best bootleg" list.

On the subject of Dortmund, isn't there a bootleg release that has all the extra camera angles not in the video version? I could have sworn I read about that somewhere...

iZsaZsa said:

I got my copy (2 VHS tapes) of Lovesexy Live in London which is why I cannot play them at home. They're real.

London? Not Dortmund?

luvsexy4all said:

herb4 said:

No KISS is terrible, even though I like them for what they are. One thing you can say about them is they always give their fans their money's worth and deliver what they want. Maybe they have to because they have minimal talent but they know who butters their bread. They put their fans first and their live releases have been great IMO.

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KISSology alone is a huge gift to their fans and a testament to why KISS remains popluar. Prince has NEVER done anything like that and I doubt he ever will. Prince sues his fans. Other bands and musicians are grateful for their support and largely don't act like THEY are doing YOU a favor by showing up on time, granting an interview, promoting material, singing a song or even running a decent website.

just listen to their tours from '74'-76

Exactly. KISS from 1974 till 1977 is the best period. If you look at them the present day, it's actually sad to see. The band contains 50% of the original members. Even worse, lead-singer Paul Stanley's voice has taken his toll after 40 years of intensive singing. And still touring. They even announced a European Tour summer 2015. But their KISSOLOGY series is worth having. This is the stuff fans want.

Anyway, Prince, his legacy when it becomes to live material officially available, is a joke. Do you remember Prince saying during the intro of ''17 Days'' performed august 25, 1986 in Paris? ''We'll let you know we have a little secret, recording live here tonight. In other words this is a record''.

Thank God for the boots. His main idea for not releasing more live material, a concert is a moment, and not meant to be heard again in the future. Strange. Why is he still performing ''1999''?

As a huge Elvis Presley fan, a collectors label started back in 1999 and still releasing several cd's a year officially, (but not in stores from SONY) containing soundboards, rehearsals, outtakes, etc.

Prince could make (more) big money to follow this kind of concept.

paulludvig said:

Lovesexy Live [at a record store] in London.

iZsaZsa said:

paulludvig said:

London? Not Dortmund?

Lovesexy Live [at a record store] in London.

Then I can stop the search for that mysterious Lovesexy Live in London tape

databank said:

It's a pity BTW that no one ever cared to rip the original VHS release (admitting there's still a good quality copy in circulation), which was divided in 2 parts and subtely different from the circulating LD and TV broadcasts rips

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Which release are you talking about here??

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

databank said:

I have it only in audience, I'm confused about how I could miss the soundboard when it leaked, what was the name of the boot and the label???

Jeezus dude you serious? That was a pretty huge event man, can't believe you missed it, it pretty much instantaneously shot to the top of most people's "best bootleg" list.

On the subject of Dortmund, isn't there a bootleg release that has all the extra camera angles not in the video version? I could have sworn I read about that somewhere...

Yeah I've got no idea what I was doing Can u plz lemme know about the title and label if u have the info?

Lovesexy I have 3 versions: original TV edit, Japanese TV edit and LD, but i've never seen a VHS rip which is a pity as it was the original release (the LD came later).

callimnate said:

databank said:

It's a pity BTW that no one ever cared to rip the original VHS release (admitting there's still a good quality copy in circulation), which was divided in 2 parts and subtely different from the circulating LD and TV broadcasts rips

.

Which release are you talking about here??

The original VHS release, which I used to have but I gor rid of it when I got rid of my last VCR.

There were 4 versions:

- Original TV broadcast from 88.

- Japanese TV broadcast (airing date unknown to me).

- VHS release from 89.

- LD release (released later).

The original VHS release was originally 2 cassettes, later compiled on one (the release I had purchased) but with no change in content AFAIK. The show was divided in 2 parts with Pt. 1 being in fact the second half of the show and Pt. 2 the first one. Both parts had opening and ending credits, the opening credits being on both shows the beginning beat of Erotic City and the end credits being crowd noises. The first half of Cross The Line had also been edited out. There may have been other differences in angles and minor edits IDK. Overall it's not such a different edit of the show I'll give u that, but given it was the way it was originally released for purchase, I'd love to have it. I'm pretty sure no copy of it have ever been ripped for I've never seen it on CD in the good old days, and I've downloaded every possible version I could find online in both audio and video, and it was also absent from the massive videos collection that was leaked last year

.

Though it's not live another frustrating thing is The Undertaker: there are 3 leaked versions, one being the CD as such in audio, the second being the CD + intro and vomit credited to in video, and the third being the 95 video release. According to The Vault the film was first made available in December 93 thru mail order, a limited release of 1000 copies, except it seems no one here on the Org has ever seen nor owned this version nor ever found even a mere picture of it, so that leads me to question its very existence (1000 copies is still a lot and the most hardcore fans are here!). However, should it exist, IDK which of the 3 versions was on it exactly.

BartVanHemelen said:

Rebeljuice said:

Asd for audio, there is too much to choose from. But I would prefer shows with different setlists and not just hits. Aftershows really I guess.

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We'd need both: at least one "regular" concert from a tour, and then some aftershows/one off gigs with exceptional playlists. These I'd actually release on CD etc. and heavily promote, perhaps as part of a "deluxe album" package, perhaps separately because there's still much interest in these legendary tours. Don't release it all at once, just let it trickle out and collaborate with magazines like Mojo etc. to allow for in-depth tour histories.

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But I'd also make more "mundane" recordings available via a website, like Fugazi for instance.

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Simply put: finally monetize that past and curate it at the same time. Keeping these recordings in the vault forever is just ridiculous.

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I agree with all of this, except the "ridiculous" statement. But, since we are in this digital age, I'd like several shows of the same tour available as CDs and DVDs, and then I'd like to see every song of those several shows of the same tour available as .99 cent downloads so that I can compile a single show of each tour by using the best moments from various shows. I've done this already, but, of course, I'd like to be able to do it with top quality video and audio. And, yes, there are some "one-off" shows that stand alone, like the 1986 Birthday Concert, but with all the tours I find that watching or listening to one show from a tour is not fully satisfying because I'm always thinking about moments from another show.

databank said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Jeezus dude you serious? That was a pretty huge event man, can't believe you missed it, it pretty much instantaneously shot to the top of most people's "best bootleg" list.

On the subject of Dortmund, isn't there a bootleg release that has all the extra camera angles not in the video version? I could have sworn I read about that somewhere...

Yeah I've got no idea what I was doing Can u plz lemme know about the title and label if u have the info?

Lovesexy I have 3 versions: original TV edit, Japanese TV edit and LD, but i've never seen a VHS rip which is a pity as it was the original release (the LD came later).

Free Boot Generation / 4DaFunk joint release: From the Soundboard: 1984 Birthday Show

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srsly, where you been?? It's got the only decent version of Roadhouse Garden in wide circulation, at least as far as I know.

jaawwnn said:

Also called Night Before the Reign. Not sure what label.

Seriously, it's the best soundboard set out there. It smokes Small Club.

jaawwnn said:

databank said:

Yeah I've got no idea what I was doing Can u plz lemme know about the title and label if u have the info?

Lovesexy I have 3 versions: original TV edit, Japanese TV edit and LD, but i've never seen a VHS rip which is a pity as it was the original release (the LD came later).

Free Boot Generation / 4DaFunk joint release: From the Soundboard: 1984 Birthday Show

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srsly, where you been?? It's got the only decent version of Roadhouse Garden in wide circulation, at least as far as I know.

thx. I have noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo id how I could miss it. I'd downloaded a complete 4DF collection once but IIRC the joint ventures weren't included. i'll have to find that eventually

Found it! (now THAT was quick )

Thx for the tip

Your head is going to explode. That show is SO FUCKING GOOD.

KingSausage said:

Your head is going to explode. That show is SO FUCKING GOOD.

Truth b told I have no recollection of the audience I have

But I'm sure it rocks. I don't listen to boots so often anymore (still have a few dozen soundboards I've never even listened to yet). I'll listen to that one tomorrow

>thx. I have nooooo id how I could miss it. I'd downloaded a complete 4DF collection once but IIRC the joint ventures weren't included. i'll have to find that eventually :nod

Don't feel too bad - you're not the only one who missed it. I'd never even heard of it as a soundboard recording before these last couple of messages, and hearing it now is almost surreal - it's got that weird, dreamlike feeling to it. I had never even imagined it to exist, and all along it has been floating out there somewhere, just waiting.

It has been a great few weeks to be a listener of this guy, I tell you what.

Need to find this.

databank said:

callimnate said:

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Which release are you talking about here??

The original VHS release, which I used to have but I gor rid of it when I got rid of my last VCR.

There were 4 versions:

- Original TV broadcast from 88.

- Japanese TV broadcast (airing date unknown to me).

- VHS release from 89.

- LD release (released later).

The original VHS release was originally 2 cassettes, later compiled on one (the release I had purchased) but with no change in content AFAIK. The show was divided in 2 parts with Pt. 1 being in fact the second half of the show and Pt. 2 the first one. Both parts had opening and ending credits, the opening credits being on both shows the beginning beat of Erotic City and the end credits being crowd noises. The first half of Cross The Line had also been edited out. There may have been other differences in angles and minor edits IDK. Overall it's not such a different edit of the show I'll give u that, but given it was the way it was originally released for purchase, I'd love to have it. I'm pretty sure no copy of it have ever been ripped for I've never seen it on CD in the good old days, and I've downloaded every possible version I could find online in both audio and video, and it was also absent from the massive videos collection that was leaked last year

.

Though it's not live another frustrating thing is The Undertaker: there are 3 leaked versions, one being the CD as such in audio, the second being the CD + intro and vomit credited to in video, and the third being the 95 video release. According to The Vault the film was first made available in December 93 thru mail order, a limited release of 1000 copies, except it seems no one here on the Org has ever seen nor owned this version nor ever found even a mere picture of it, so that leads me to question its very existence (1000 copies is still a lot and the most hardcore fans are here!). However, should it exist, IDK which of the 3 versions was on it exactly.

That's some pretty detailed info there.

Didnt even realise the VHS versions were different.

I have the 2 tapes but wouldnt have a clue how to get the best out of it and put it on digital.

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While we're on this... does anyone have the Syracuse show but without the split screen during When Doves Cry?

I still have this from when it was televised! Why on earth they did the split screen, I will never know.

callimnate said:

databank said:

The original VHS release, which I used to have but I gor rid of it when I got rid of my last VCR.

There were 4 versions:

- Original TV broadcast from 88.

- Japanese TV broadcast (airing date unknown to me).

- VHS release from 89.

- LD release (released later).

The original VHS release was originally 2 cassettes, later compiled on one (the release I had purchased) but with no change in content AFAIK. The show was divided in 2 parts with Pt. 1 being in fact the second half of the show and Pt. 2 the first one. Both parts had opening and ending credits, the opening credits being on both shows the beginning beat of Erotic City and the end credits being crowd noises. The first half of Cross The Line had also been edited out. There may have been other differences in angles and minor edits IDK. Overall it's not such a different edit of the show I'll give u that, but given it was the way it was originally released for purchase, I'd love to have it. I'm pretty sure no copy of it have ever been ripped for I've never seen it on CD in the good old days, and I've downloaded every possible version I could find online in both audio and video, and it was also absent from the massive videos collection that was leaked last year

.

Though it's not live another frustrating thing is The Undertaker: there are 3 leaked versions, one being the CD as such in audio, the second being the CD + intro and vomit credited to in video, and the third being the 95 video release. According to The Vault the film was first made available in December 93 thru mail order, a limited release of 1000 copies, except it seems no one here on the Org has ever seen nor owned this version nor ever found even a mere picture of it, so that leads me to question its very existence (1000 copies is still a lot and the most hardcore fans are here!). However, should it exist, IDK which of the 3 versions was on it exactly.

That's some pretty detailed info there.

Didnt even realise the VHS versions were different.

I have the 2 tapes but wouldnt have a clue how to get the best out of it and put it on digital.

.

While we're on this... does anyone have the Syracuse show but without the split screen during When Doves Cry?

I still have this from when it was televised! Why on earth they did the split screen, I will never know.

They did it to mimic the music video. I had the VHS (purchased) and it was split as well so no I don't think it exists. BTW I wonder does anyone have the original Double Live release of this on 2 cassettes? I wonder if it may, like Lovesexy, have been split with beginning and end credits on both cassettes or it it was the same as the single cassette release, only abruptly cut in 2.

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KingSausage said:

Your head is going to explode. That show is SO FUCKING GOOD.

I'm halfway thru listening to it and it's AWESOME indeed, crazy how soundboard vs. audience changes everything. It's a magical, very unique show, it NEEDS to be released one day!!!!

I got it out and they look good, but now what

Have you tried rubbing them on your neck?

databank said:

callimnate said:

That's some pretty detailed info there.

Didnt even realise the VHS versions were different.

I have the 2 tapes but wouldnt have a clue how to get the best out of it and put it on digital.

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While we're on this... does anyone have the Syracuse show but without the split screen during When Doves Cry?

I still have this from when it was televised! Why on earth they did the split screen, I will never know.

They did it to mimic the music video. I had the VHS (purchased) and it was split as well so no I don't think it exists. BTW I wonder does anyone have the original Double Live release of this on 2 cassettes? I wonder if it may, like Lovesexy, have been split with beginning and end credits on both cassettes or it it was the same as the single cassette release, only abruptly cut in 2.

[Edited 11/28/14 3:51am]

It has been a couple of years, but I saw the unedited clip from Syracuse of When Doves Cry on YouTube. I have no idea where it came from. That was annoying as hell on the actual release.

KingSausage said:

LoL...Just as well until my next European vacation to find a VCR.

motherfunka said:

databank said:

They did it to mimic the music video. I had the VHS (purchased) and it was split as well so no I don't think it exists. BTW I wonder does anyone have the original Double Live release of this on 2 cassettes? I wonder if it may, like Lovesexy, have been split with beginning and end credits on both cassettes or it it was the same as the single cassette release, only abruptly cut in 2.

[Edited 11/28/14 3:51am]

It has been a couple of years, but I saw the unedited clip from Syracuse of When Doves Cry on YouTube. I have no idea where it came from. That was annoying as hell on the actual release.

Does anyone know if all the 1984 birthday show soundboard recordings are the same? My version is called A Night Before the Reign, but other sets have different names. My version sounds badass, but if another version sounds even more badass, I'd be interested in knowing.