KingSausage said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Hardcore is owning the Good Question CD and playing it more than once.

I read that to the tune of 'Style.'

Me too, me too!!!

KingSausage said:

KingSausage said:

KingSausage said:

I have a shit-ton of boots and I haven't spent a dime in years.

I should add: I refuse to pay bootleggers. I give my Prince money to Prince. What he releases, I buy.

Yes I'm sure you do. I just mean that to want to collect boots (free or otherwise) could trigger a compulsion.

depends. i am a hardcore fan. i love the released and the unreleased as well as bootlegs. HOWEVER, i'm not one who is still in hopes for a Revolution reunion or shun his current work in favor of remasters (that we probably aren't getting) of albums we already have. we know most of the stuff from 78-88 is better than say 2000-2014 but there's plenty of stuff to choose from. it all comes down to preference and taste. all of this stuff is subjective. i want unreleased stuff but that isn't my main focus.

KingSausage said:

RODSERLING said:

So, what's the point of this topic ? You were talking about unreleased stuff, and complained that some people didn't care.

Sarcasm, numbnuts.

So you don't wanna make me interested ? Prince is not gonna sue you, relax

Eye bet 's unreleased muziq sounds MAGNIFICENT!!!!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye bet 's unreleased muziq sounds MAGNIFICENT!!!!

On another thread you said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

This thread should be closed immediately...

No BOOTLEGZ!!!!

And then you changed it to this:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

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So, what exactly are you up to?

Have you flip flopped from getting mad at others for DISCUSSING bootlegs to passively soliciting for them? Or did you hear something that's made you have a change of heart? Something else?

Seriously, I'm not trying to start something, I'm genuinely curious.

thedoorkeeper said:

paisleypark4 said:

I wonder how they feel when he performs his unreleased material and they have no idea about the history behind the song etc.

I don't think he performs unreleased material that often. I have seen him in concert 6 times and never heard any unreleased material. And does that make you a better person because you have heard his unreleased person? I don't think so.

He doesn't perform unreleased material that often. I've seen him nearly 100 times and I can't think of one song I've heard that hasn't been released. I've seen him do a lot of songs before they were released, or first time performances, but none that were never released. I know he has performed some, like Electric Intercourse, God Is Alive, and snippet of Moonbeam Levels, but it is pretty rare.

SquirrelMeat said:

Hardcore is owning the Good Question CD and playing it more than once.

I own it and I listen to it every once in a while but at the same time 's got nothing to do with it so IDK if it defines hardcore

motherfunka said:

thedoorkeeper said:

paisleypark4 said: I don't think he performs unreleased material that often. I have seen him in concert 6 times and never heard any unreleased material. And does that make you a better person because you have heard his unreleased person? I don't think so.

He doesn't perform unreleased material that often. I've seen him nearly 100 times and I can't think of one song I've heard that hasn't been released. I've seen him do a lot of songs before they were released, or first time performances, but none that were never released. I know he has performed some, like Electric Intercourse, God Is Alive, and snippet of Moonbeam Levels, but it is pretty rare.

I witnessed him, at one of the early 2007 London shows, perform "1,000 Hugs and Kisses". In an arena with 25,000 people! I reckon less than a dozen of us there knew the song!

And earlier this year, I was right at the front at the first Birmingham night when he did "Electric Intercourse". Absolutely mindblowing

SquirrelMeat said:

Hardcore is owning the Good Question CD and playing it more than once.

Confession time : I really like "Got A New Love"

The video is literally the campest thing I've ever seen though.

I think it was somewhere during the 1996-1998 period where Prince said he didn't mind the sharing of the stuff, just not the selling of it.

There was a time when I wanted everything, official and unofficial, and my vast collection is a product of that. However, a couple of things changed for me. As I got older, I had more responsibilities, which meant that I didn't have the time or money to chase Prince bootlegged material. Also, when it comes to unreleased stuff, I've always been more of a live (video and audio) bootleg fan than a studio bootleg fan, and that includes Eighties material. To be honest, I've often been disappointed or unmoved by most (eighty-five percent) studio bootlegs. My usual reaction after hearing a studio bootleg is, "I now know why it didn't make the album." So, today, I rarely chase/seek unreleased studio stuff. And, while I have all of the live video and audio I desire, right up to the 2013 LOL Tour, with Prince clamping down on the internet, which doesn't really bother me, it now requires too much effort, especially since, again, my life has way more responsibilities than it had thirty years ago. So, unless a studio bootleg just falls in my lap, I'll enjoy officially released studio. But, if there is a tour that includes lots of songs from AOA and PlecElec, I might be able to find the energy to search the internet for that.

I know right? I remember in the early days (late 80s) being thankful for even the bad quality boots. Of course, in this 'brand new age' I've become a lot more picky. hehe

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Nothing can compare to the time when you rushed out to buy new Prince material and then you could search through record shops and happen upon some odd Prince bootlegs. I think my first were the Black Album and something called Jewel Box or something like that. You felt like the only one in the world who had it - and it did not matter if it was low sound quality.

I can understand nowadays if people don't give a shit about unreleased stuff.

I happily paid $78 at a local wrecka stow for a Japanese import laser-freakin-disc of Sign O' the Times. Still have it.

djThunderfunk said:

PANDURITO said:

Yep

I'm sure that's what happens all the time

Roll your eyes all you want, but SuperFurryAnimal is right.

The vast majority of those that collect boots do support Prince by purchasing all of his released material. And, as a recent thread showed, most of us are happy to buy official releases of material we already have bootlegs of.

That´s exactly the way I see it, too.

If it wasn´t for bootleg material, I never would have become the fan that I am today. I go to as many concerts as I can when he´s here, I´ve been to Paisley Park lots of times and even to one of the celebrations, and I buy all his official releases. And of course I´d buy every legit release of the bpotleg material that I already have, even if the boots are of good sound quality.

My interest in bootlegs does not hurt Prince´s bottom line, on the contrary, it ignited and strengthened my desire to spend money on Prince. So I don´t really understand why he´s so strongly against them but I respect his opinion.

Still....bootlegs are partly responsible for me being into Prince´s music. I understand that Prince, as an artist, does not want us to own material that he did not officially release, just like a painter does not want peopel to own paintings that he never intended to sell or be released.

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Franz Kafka, the great writer , never wanted his material to be released and even said so in his last will.....but his buddy Max Brod ignored his last wish, otherwise we probably wouldn´t even know he was, except for a few short stories.

djThunderfunk said:

PANDURITO said:

Yep

I'm sure that's what happens all the time

Roll your eyes all you want, but SuperFurryAnimal is right.

The vast majority of those that collect boots do support Prince by purchasing all of his released material. And, as a recent thread showed, most of us are happy to buy official releases of material we already have bootlegs of.

That´s exactly the way I see it, too.

If it wasn´t for bootleg material, I never would have become the fan that I am today. I go to as many concerts as I can when he´s here, I´ve been to Paisley Park lots of times and even to one of the celebrations, and I buy all his official releases. And of course I´d buy every legit release of the bpotleg material that I already have, even if the boots are of good sound quality.

My interest in bootlegs does not hurt Prince´s bottom line, on the contrary, it ignited and strengthened my desire to spend money on Prince. So I don´t really understand why he´s so strongly against them but I respect his opinion.

Still....bootlegs are partly responsible for me being into Prince´s music. I understand that Prince, as an artist, does not want us to own material that he did not officially release, just like a painter does not want peopel to own paintings that he never intended to sell or be released.

-

Franz Kafka, the great writer , never wanted his material to be released and even said so in his last will.....but his buddy Max Brod ignored his last wish, otherwise we probably wouldn´t even know he was, except for a few short stories.

KingSausage said:

I often hear from people who say they are hardcore Prince fans but either are unaware of his amazing unreleased stuff (studio tracks and live shows) or openly admit they have no interest in it. This blows my fucking mind. Look, I understand that some people don't have access to sources of unreleased material. And this isn't about proving who's a "bigger fan." It's just that his unreleased material and live shows are such an integral part of getting into Prince. If you love his music and consider yourself a hardcore fan, how can you not want more?

I am one who would like to have all of the unreleased stuff (and have some subset of it), but with all of the other things going on in my life (own a business, have 6 kids, etc), there's not enough time to keep tracking them down.

No Prince bootlegs? Then you're not a hardcore Prince fan.

KingSausage said:

I often hear from people who say they are hardcore Prince fans but either are unaware of his amazing unreleased stuff (studio tracks and live shows) or openly admit they have no interest in it. This blows my fucking mind. Look, I understand that some people don't have access to sources of unreleased material. And this isn't about proving who's a "bigger fan." It's just that his unreleased material and live shows are such an integral part of getting into Prince. If you love his music and consider yourself a hardcore fan, how can you not want more?

For a long time I had no interest in unreleased boots (live or studio). Here is what it was for me:

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1. You don't know what you are missing if you don't have it.

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2. The bigger issue was sound quality. Scratchy subpar level sounding stuff (no matter how amazing) bothers me to no end. It taints the experience. It also created misplaced resentment towards Prince. Like, how can "Moonbeam Levels" not be worth a pristine and official audio release?

PANDURITO said:

ufoclub said:

PANDURITO said:

Yep

I'm sure that's what happens all the time

I buy all his official releases. And I like hearing the underground stuff

Are you looking for the Pandurito's Seal of Approval?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye bet 's unreleased muziq sounds MAGNIFICENT!!!!

pssst..Prince's unreleased music is some of his BEST music. This is a scientific fact.

djThunderfunk said:

On another thread you said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

This thread should be closed immediately...

No BOOTLEGZ!!!!

And then you changed it to this:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Hes a fan, of course he love to hear unleashed stuff

KingSausage said:

I guess you have to hear the bootlegs to understand your being baffled. Prince has released tons of music officially and if you own all of it, I would call you a hard core fan. I consider myself a hard core Prince fan and have no desire to own every mix or version of a song [That takes a way from the enjoyment of the music. I guess good things will come to me when I'm good and ready.]. For instance, the first time I heard Crystal Ball was when Prince released it. I'm glad he did, because I love it. Had he not-I would probably never had heard it. I'm okay with not hearing songs I don't even know about.

1725topp said: