Everyone is complaining that WB isn't marketing AOA and PE. They know know that Prince's market has shrunk considerably. So for them to make money, they knew they could not spend tons of cash on two albums that collectivly that have not even made $1,000,000.

AOA has made $660,000

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PE has made $330,000

Prince has sold two albums that have not made $1,000,000 yet. So how much profit did WB & Prince make off of these two albums?

In business terms, practically zero.

WB have done what they could with what they were given. The deal with WB isn't a traditional one. They manufacture and distribute apparently with some budget for promo.

A record company can't make and star in a music video. Nor can they go on TV and talk about how great it is to be working with Prince... who didn't want to come on the TV show.

Prince is the only person who can promote his music. He's already moved on to the next album apparently... and so has everyone else.

chookalana said:

Everyone is complaining that WB isn't marketing AOA and PE. They know know that Prince's market has shrunk considerably. So for them to make money, they knew they could not spend tons of cash on two albums that collectivly that have not even made $1,000,000.

AOA has made $660,000

+

PE has made $330,000

Prince has sold two albums that have not made $1,000,000 yet. So how much profit did WB & Prince make off of these two albums?

In business terms, practically zero.

you have their accounting to state howmuch they made? just curious; if not, then you don't know

^ seems like a rough estimate based on sales.

Granted that likely wouldn't include spotify/youtube/googlemusic plays which were never purchased. Seems about right though.

chookalana said:

Everyone is complaining that WB isn't marketing AOA and PE. They know know that Prince's market has shrunk considerably. So for them to make money, they knew they could not spend tons of cash on two albums that collectivly that have not even made $1,000,000.

AOA has made $660,000

+

PE has made $330,000

Prince has sold two albums that have not made $1,000,000 yet. So how much profit did WB & Prince make off of these two albums?

In business terms, practically zero.

And how exactly have u come up with those numbers, unless you work for them personally...

Noodled24 said:

^ seems like a rough estimate based on sales.

Granted that likely wouldn't include spotify/youtube/googlemusic plays which were never purchased. Seems about right though.

once again, why would it seem about right? How do you know how much it sold? Billboard, Amazon, Itunes. global sales etc,,

When you say"has made" that implies so sort of knowledge which you dont have

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you don't think with better marketing they could have made more money? There are quite a few people out there who would buy the albums if they knew they existed, and this is just from his existing audience - the same audience that sells out concerts when he tours. I still wouldn't know about either album if not for prince.org.

And nobody should be more motivated than WB to promote a new prince album. Reaching a new audience for Prince not only sells the new music, it sells the back catalog.

Warners did their part,but it's also up to the artist to do their share of promotion,too.That means appearing on the chat shows,performing the singles,filming videos,etc.Prince did none of those things.

lwr001 said:

Noodled24 said:

^ seems like a rough estimate based on sales.

Granted that likely wouldn't include spotify/youtube/googlemusic plays which were never purchased. Seems about right though.

once again, why would it seem about right? How do you know how much it sold? Billboard, Amazon, Itunes. global sales etc,,

When you say"has made" that implies so sort of knowledge which you dont have

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I don't have that info. But we know rough sales numbers times by the retail cost of the album = roughly how much money they've made. By no means accurate, but it gives a rough estimate.

Noodled24 said:

lwr001 said:

once again, why would it seem about right? How do you know how much it sold? Billboard, Amazon, Itunes. global sales etc,,

When you say"has made" that implies so sort of knowledge which you dont have

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I don't have that info. But we know rough sales numbers times by the retail cost of the album = roughly how much money they've made. By no means accurate, but it gives a rough estimate.

haha ok..you specifically stated "has made"

lwr001 said:

Noodled24 said:

I don't have that info. But we know rough sales numbers times by the retail cost of the album = roughly how much money they've made. By no means accurate, but it gives a rough estimate.

haha ok..you specifically stated "has made"

Don't think I did. I said it sounded like a rough estimate.

Noodled24 said:

^ seems like a rough estimate based on sales.

Granted that likely wouldn't include spotify/youtube/googlemusic plays which were never purchased. Seems about right though.

Given what those services pay, that might add another $25.75 to the total.

Noodled24 said:

lwr001 said:

haha ok..you specifically stated "has made"

Don't think I did. I said it sounded like a rough estimate.

know what you are right ; i wrongly assumed you were the original poster..My bad

Why do you care what the albums sold or how much profit is lining the pockets of WB?

warning2all said:

alandail said:

Who goes to stores to buy Cd's?

I DO order them through Amazon but mostly everyone downloads.

There is no money in selling CD's anymore unless you sell upwards of a million.

Price has gone on a few shows and promoted his CD. He needs to do more though.

No airplay and no teens buying menas no sales.

Its nt just him either. Billy Idol has a kick ass CD, Lenny has a Great CD!

Culture Club has one coming out but none are getting ANY play. At least here in NYC Area. Its all

Iggy or Grande. Some rap buy the flavor of the week and thats it.

Older artists are getting the shaft in terms of promotion and play.

Besides his CD is NOT the strongest for the common person to want to buy.

alandail said:

you don't think with better marketing they could have made more money?

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No. The ROI would most likely be far worse, and they've got bigger fish to fry.

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And nobody should be more motivated than WB to promote a new prince album. Reaching a new audience for Prince not only sells the new music, it sells the back catalog.

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AOA and especially PE would never help sell the back catalog.

MIRvmn said:

Sad but true, it seems like WB wasn't interested in AOA and Plec that much after all and they are probably pissed of cuz they couldn't released PR remaster along with AOA instead of that lame Plec album

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I bet they're shitting rainbows that they don't have to promote some lame album alongside a classic. Those kind of things never work out: the classics show how bad the new stuff is, and the new stuff pollutes the love for the classic.

Even if I shit on AOA, It's obvious it's tailored for charts.

AOa could have been a revival if Prince played the game.

U KNOW and WAY BACK HOME could have been real hits, and a worldwide tour is always helpful.

chookalana said:

Everyone is complaining that WB isn't marketing AOA and PE. They know know that Prince's market has shrunk considerably. So for them to make money, they knew they could not spend tons of cash on two albums that collectivly that have not even made $1,000,000.

AOA has made $660,000

+

PE has made $330,000

Prince has sold two albums that have not made $1,000,000 yet. So how much profit did WB & Prince make off of these two albums?

In business terms, practically zero.

How did u calculate those figures?

The sales of both album are very reasonable by today's standards, your thread is -forgive me- ridiculous. This isn't 1995 anymore

chookalana said:

Everyone is complaining that WB isn't marketing AOA and PE. They know know that Prince's market has shrunk considerably. So for them to make money, they knew they could not spend tons of cash on two albums that collectivly that have not even made $1,000,000.

AOA has made $660,000

+

PE has made $330,000

Prince has sold two albums that have not made $1,000,000 yet. So how much profit did WB & Prince make off of these two albums?

In business terms, practically zero.

Isn't NPG the record company and WB is the distributor? If that's the case, I would think that WB would not be responsible for the promotion of the projects.

As far as I can tell, I think Prince intentionally wanted these projects to be marketed more word of mouth and not so much an "in your face" type strategy. That's why you are seeing all of these articles everywhere.

Noodled24 said:

^ seems like a rough estimate based on sales.

Granted that likely wouldn't include spotify/youtube/googlemusic plays which were never purchased. Seems about right though.

How would that be about right? You have no idea how much money WB is getting from those services or if Prince is getting from those deals either . Look at Taylor Swift she is disputing the amount that she has received from Spotify.

daPrettyman said:

Isn't NPG the record company and WB is the distributor? If that's the case, I would think that WB would not be responsible for the promotion of the projects.

As far as I can tell, I think Prince intentionally wanted these projects to be marketed more word of mouth and not so much an "in your face" type strategy. That's why you are seeing all of these articles everywhere.

Prince is not distrubuting or promoting the music. He company handles the publishing and administration of the music rights.

BartVanHemelen said:

MIRvmn said:

Sad but true, it seems like WB wasn't interested in AOA and Plec that much after all and they are probably pissed of cuz they couldn't released PR remaster along with AOA instead of that lame Plec album

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I bet they're shitting rainbows that they don't have to promote some lame album alongside a classic. Those kind of things never work out: the classics show how bad the new stuff is, and the new stuff pollutes the love for the classic.

" and the new stuff pollutes the love for the classic." When you type stuff like this I hope it is just the drugs that are making you do it. By this comment you are saying he should never record anything new. Wha sort of an artist does not take a step forwrd. This is not 1984 and the new music is selling reasonably well for the climate in the music industry these days and the music has received solid reviews.

You need to learn that no matter how much you think your opinion is the final word it cannot change the facts.

does this mean AOA is gold?

luvsexy4all said:

does this mean AOA is gold?

No, AOA is around the 200,000 mark in total sales.

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